Board index » Phoenix Wright » Defendant's Lobby » Hazakurain (GS3)

Page 2 of 2[ 53 posts ]
Go to page Previous  1, 2
 


Re: The trick locks (Possible spoilers)Topic%20Title
User avatar

What is my liiiife?!?

Gender: Male

Location: UK

Rank: Admin

Joined: Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:02 am

Posts: 2504

You know, I still haven't got an answer about the fact that Bikini said Iris had used trick locks in the past. If that's true, then it doesn't matter what happened in the incident itself. But for some reason Wrestlemania doesn't count it as real evidence.
Re: The trick locks (Possible spoilers)Topic%20Title
User avatar

Male that RPs as a Lesbian

Gender: None specified

Rank: Decisive Witness

Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:55 pm

Posts: 269

I think the trick lock, is just a psyche lock, but a bit different.

A psyche lock is when you want to keep someone from entering your mind by keeping it locked in your head.

How ever when it's a trick lock, you want someone from entering an actual location.
ImageMy sig was made by the super Awesome Topaz Fey.
Re: The trick locks (Possible spoilers)Topic%20Title
User avatar

Ready to RAWK!?

Gender: Male

Location: Ontario, Canada.

Rank: Ace Attorney

Joined: Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:56 pm

Posts: 9051

I never once heard Bikini say that about Iris, Gerkuman! If you could provide a clip of the script, it would be useful!

Also, I think Bikini DOES have spiritual powers, since she was cracking the locks with Franziska back at the Sacred Cavern, so the only other option is that Franziska has spiritual powers.
Image
Image Image Image Image
Posted by Request.
Sig by Elriel. Avatar taken from a YouTube video of Rawk Hawk's Theme.
Sig changed on December 08, 2008. Avatar changed on December 14, 2008.
Re: The trick locks (Possible spoilers)Topic%20Title
User avatar

◕ ◡ ◕

Gender: Male

Location: Georgia

Rank: Decisive Witness

Joined: Sat Nov 10, 2007 2:12 am

Posts: 273

Miles_the_attorney wrote:
I think the trick lock, is just a psyche lock, but a bit different.

A psyche lock is when you want to keep someone from entering your mind by keeping it locked in your head.

How ever when it's a trick lock, you want someone from entering an actual location.

Yes, that much is obvious. That's not what everyone's debating about... :payne:
Re: The trick locks (Possible spoilers)Topic%20Title
User avatar

◕ ◡ ◕

Gender: Male

Location: Georgia

Rank: Decisive Witness

Joined: Sat Nov 10, 2007 2:12 am

Posts: 273

Wrestlemania wrote:
Dahlia HAS powers still, she could make the locks, since we have no clue how much power it takes to make the locks.

Maya NEVER states that she doesn't know what a Trick lock is!

Also, if you want to speak of the locks, fine. But be warned: You must ALSO explain the chains!

Since when does Dahlia have powers? I think Morgan had Iris and Dahlia in hopes that they would eventually have spiritual power, but they were taken away when they were just kids. Even if they did have spiritual power, it would have disintegrated without any training.

In 3-2 when Phoenix tells Maya about what Pearl did to the magatama, Maya says that she didn't know what a psyche lock was and urges you to try presenting the magatama to Atmey so she can see it in action.
Re: The trick locks (Possible spoilers)Topic%20Title
User avatar

Male that RPs as a Lesbian

Gender: None specified

Rank: Decisive Witness

Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:55 pm

Posts: 269

Charity wrote:
Miles_the_attorney wrote:
I think the trick lock, is just a psyche lock, but a bit different.

A psyche lock is when you want to keep someone from entering your mind by keeping it locked in your head.

How ever when it's a trick lock, you want someone from entering an actual location.

Yes, that much is obvious. That's not what everyone's debating about... :payne:

....but then it's obviously spiritual right? At least how I understand it.
ImageMy sig was made by the super Awesome Topaz Fey.
Re: The trick locks (Possible spoilers)Topic%20Title

Gender: None specified

Rank: Decisive Witness

Joined: Sun Nov 25, 2007 5:34 am

Posts: 153

I really think they're a lot like the magatama. Someone has to imbue them with spiritual power, but anyone can use them (the way Pearl charged the magatama but Phoenix can use it).
Re: The trick locks (Possible spoilers)Topic%20Title
User avatar

◕ ◡ ◕

Gender: Male

Location: Georgia

Rank: Decisive Witness

Joined: Sat Nov 10, 2007 2:12 am

Posts: 273

Miles_the_attorney wrote:
Charity wrote:
Miles_the_attorney wrote:
I think the trick lock, is just a psyche lock, but a bit different.

A psyche lock is when you want to keep someone from entering your mind by keeping it locked in your head.

How ever when it's a trick lock, you want someone from entering an actual location.

Yes, that much is obvious. That's not what everyone's debating about... :payne:

....but then it's obviously spiritual right? At least how I understand it.

To be honest, I think they're nothing but locks modeled after psyche locks made by followers of the Kurain Channeling Technique to be used for future use later. Maybe I'm just being naive, but I think the locks were just hanging around in a closet somewhere at Hazakura Temple. There's got to be more than that, though... How did Dahlia know where they were? Maybe they were stored in the Inner Temple?
Re: The trick locks (Possible spoilers)Topic%20Title
User avatar

Ready to RAWK!?

Gender: Male

Location: Ontario, Canada.

Rank: Ace Attorney

Joined: Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:56 pm

Posts: 9051

Charity wrote:
Wrestlemania wrote:
Dahlia HAS powers still, she could make the locks, since we have no clue how much power it takes to make the locks.

Maya NEVER states that she doesn't know what a Trick lock is!

Also, if you want to speak of the locks, fine. But be warned: You must ALSO explain the chains!

Since when does Dahlia have powers? I think Morgan had Iris and Dahlia in hopes that they would eventually have spiritual power, but they were taken away when they were just kids. Even if they did have spiritual power, it would have disintegrated without any training.

In 3-2 when Phoenix tells Maya about what Pearl did to the magatama, Maya says that she didn't know what a psyche lock was and urges you to try presenting the magatama to Atmey so she can see it in action.


*shakes head* Neither of your arguments hold up fully, ese.

Firstly, you can't prove that the spiritual powers could diminish so completely, that they would eventually be 100% lost.

Secondly, Maya STILL can't see the locks. Whoever has the magatama, sees them, and Maya just wanted to see him uncover a secret, and NOT see the locks themselves... or she wanted to see the locks, but didn't get to.

Maya has never seen locks before, because she lacks the supreme spiritual powers of Pearl. However, again, she could've been taught how to form trick locks at a young age, along with Mia.

And about Dahlia: She IS a Fey, you know... she could've learned about them, and how to form them!

I mean, it's now been proven that in Maya's instance, she could've been taught them by her mother at a young age.
Image
Image Image Image Image
Posted by Request.
Sig by Elriel. Avatar taken from a YouTube video of Rawk Hawk's Theme.
Sig changed on December 08, 2008. Avatar changed on December 14, 2008.
Re: The trick locks (Possible spoilers)Topic%20Title
User avatar

:O

Gender: Female

Rank: Desk Jockey

Joined: Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:57 pm

Posts: 92

Quote:
*shakes head* Neither of your arguments hold up fully, ese.


And neither do yours.
All you're doing is speculating about what could have happened, not what did happen.
Image
Re: The trick locks (Possible spoilers)Topic%20Title
User avatar

Ready to RAWK!?

Gender: Male

Location: Ontario, Canada.

Rank: Ace Attorney

Joined: Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:56 pm

Posts: 9051

Nice try, but that argument is a double-edged sword, ese.

Now, lemme ask ye this: Do you believe, that Maya was never taught anything by her mother? I mean ANYTHING.
Image
Image Image Image Image
Posted by Request.
Sig by Elriel. Avatar taken from a YouTube video of Rawk Hawk's Theme.
Sig changed on December 08, 2008. Avatar changed on December 14, 2008.
Re: The trick locks (Possible spoilers)Topic%20Title
User avatar

:O

Gender: Female

Rank: Desk Jockey

Joined: Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:57 pm

Posts: 92

Maya was two when the DL-6 incident happened and Misty went into hiding. Her mother wouldn't have had reason to teach a two-year old how to channel spirits or summon/open trick locks. A two-year old doesn't have the mental capacity for that. Hell, Maya isn't a successful spirit medium until she's eighteen.
Image
Re: The trick locks (Possible spoilers)Topic%20Title
User avatar

Ready to RAWK!?

Gender: Male

Location: Ontario, Canada.

Rank: Ace Attorney

Joined: Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:56 pm

Posts: 9051

*shakes head*

Sorry, I have scripted proof that Maya was still taught the ways of the Kurain Channeling technique. I shall bring it up momentatily. It's from 3-2.

Edit: Alright! Found the lines!

Case: 3-2.
Time: Whenever Pearl isn't with you.
Location: Lordly Tailor.
What to do: Examine the folding screen.

Lines:

:maya: It's the folding screen of Kurain Sacred Writings.
:maya: But I can't read what it says on it.
:phoenix: Really? But I thought it was some kind of important spell!
:maya: Ahh, yeah. My mother read it and taught me to memorize it.
:maya: I'll be in trouble if I ever forget it.
:nick-sweat: (Looks like the Kurain Channeling School is teetering dangerously on the edge...)

(End lines)

So... well, actually, now there's a contradiction SOMEWHERE, but... where exactly?
Image
Image Image Image Image
Posted by Request.
Sig by Elriel. Avatar taken from a YouTube video of Rawk Hawk's Theme.
Sig changed on December 08, 2008. Avatar changed on December 14, 2008.
Page 2 of 2 [ 53 posts ] 
Go to page Previous  1, 2
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  

 Board index » Phoenix Wright » Defendant's Lobby » Hazakurain (GS3)

Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 9 guests

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum
Jump to:  
cron
News News Site map Site map SitemapIndex SitemapIndex RSS Feed RSS Feed Channel list Channel list
Powered by phpBB

phpBB SEO