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When I FIRST played the GS1 game up to case 2, I thought his love was going to be Mia. THEN Mia *LOLS SPOILER* and Maya comes in.
Then, I knew that Phoenix and Maya were meant to be- even Pearls thinks that way too! I mean look at them; they've had their moments.
But then Dahlia/Her *COUGH*, comes in and they actually dated.
So who is the GS staff intending for Phoenix?
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I think the staff intentionally left it open for multiple possibilities.
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So who is the GS staff intending for Phoenix?
His left hand.
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Oh lol.
I do find it amusing that such a topic was made. After all, we've quite a few yaoi fans among us in this very forum who will insist "certain things" about "certain characters". But I'm one to talk. We all are left to assume different things, and I think this is that kind of case. Will Phoenix ever have a special someone?
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Yeah, in 3-1 when Mia keeps harassing Grossberg I thought it was because she was jealous of Dahlia. Hahaha.
The fact that she kept beating up on Marvin made me think she had the hots for Phoenix. Why else would she randomly start physically abusing her boss in the middle of a trial?
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Yeah, in 3-1 when Mia keeps harassing Grossberg I thought it was because she was jealous of Dahlia. Hahaha.
The fact that she kept beating up on Marvin made me think she had the hots for Phoenix. Why else would she randomly start physically abusing her boss in the middle of a trial?
Because it's fun.
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Definitely Maya
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phoenix admits that maya just his close friends...
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Yeah, in 3-1 when Mia keeps harassing Grossberg I thought it was because she was jealous of Dahlia. Hahaha.
The fact that she kept beating up on Marvin made me think she had the hots for Phoenix. Why else would she randomly start physically abusing her boss in the middle of a trial?
Because another certain someone probably once referred to her as his sweetheart?
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andrx wrote:
maya definitely, if it was meant to be mia, they wouldn't have killed her so early, if it was dahlia *cough* not really *cough* they would have aluded to it in the end, but evertime something happens to maya, he spazzes. it's definitely maya
While that may be true, I sense an ongoing "love cut short" theme.
I mean:
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If he ever loved (PAST TENSE) anyone, it's Mia.
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Yeah, in 3-1 when Mia keeps harassing Grossberg I thought it was because she was jealous of Dahlia. Hahaha.
The fact that she kept beating up on Marvin made me think she had the hots for Phoenix. Why else would she randomly start physically abusing her boss in the middle of a trial?
She just wanted to see some jelly jiggle. ^^
Seriously, I'm just going to say that they left it open so they could have the fans speculate who he should be with. What would fandoms be without open options?
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I think this is probably one of those cases.
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/ 
. I totally agree that Phoenix freaking out every time something happens to her is a big indication that she means more to him than he lets on (or even consciously realizes)./ 
came a bit out of left field, and though these two have problems to overcome and get to know each other again where Phoenix/Maya already have good synergy going, them getting back together looks like a definite possibility at the end./ 
has always intrigued me despite the fact that Mia came down with a bad case of dead early on in the series. If she had lived, I think they would have made a cool couple. But actually, a determined fanfic writer can still make it work; after all, Nick has two talented spirit mediums at his disposal! I would totally read a story of Pearls walking in on Phoenix and Mia and discovering their secret relationship, or a story where Phoenix and Maya live together and everyone thinks they are a couple, when it's really Phoenix and Mia. I think it would be really funny if someone found out and tried to tip Maya off, and she just goes "Well, duh!"
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/ / 
was going on. I saw the doujin of it yesterday and I'll admit there's more humor in it than seriousness of the story, but if the whole ordeal wasn't about the necklace, would be currently retired as the next Hugh Hefner.You know it's true.
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/ ~Maya is far too immature to actually be involved in a relationship and honestly, I think they have more of a sibling dynamic than anything else. Phoenix does care for her, but not romantically and considering about 90% of their interactions seem to be Maya suggesting something random, Phoenix shooting it down, and Maya teasing him and calling him old, I don't think they'd have the best romantic relationship. / ~This relationship worked around 3-1, when Phoenix was younger. He and Iris were infatuated with each other and essentially made each other their whole world, to the point of blocking anyone else out. This worked at the time, but by the end of Trials and Tribulations, Phoenix is much more mature and even if he wanted to have that same kind of relationship again, his friends wouldn't let him. his world has broadened so much that it simply would not work. They COULD have a relationship, but considering the differences in maturity and needs, I don't think it works. So in my book, 
/ works; / does not. (Wow, that was long winded...) / ~Really, I think you just have to look at me sig to know what I think about this pairing . however, I will elaborate as I do have my reasons for supporting it. In the first game there were quite a few overtones for the pairing, particularly in 1-1 and 1-2. They're both fairly mature and it could have been a stable (imagine that!) relationship that definitely could have worked had Capcom not decided to off Mia. The "Carpe Diem" element of the relationship, as well as the Channeling aspect still makes this relationship fascinating, as well as allowing it to still somewhat be a viable pairing.....sorry if that rambled too much.
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/ -Now, I have to agree with Jenna on how well this relationship would have worked. They had a teacher student type bond that seemed to be a little more than that...though it was cut short due to Mia's death. Though not my most accepting pairing, I find this would have been the most stable and possible outcome if she were still alive. / -To tell you the truth. I'm not all sure about this pairing. Mainly because I never really saw them together. Maybe I'm being a tad finkled, but I don't think it would work out, in my opinion. / -....I'm not sure if I can do this without being biassed. This is where I kind of differ from Jenna, I think because of their differences and got at each other with the teasing makes them the perfect coupling. I'm not saying it the only reason...okay so I am.
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Thanks for your extensive response. In my post, I've mainly been trying to see the positives, the things that make a pairing viable in the first place. In reading fanfiction, I'm mostly quite flexible where pairings are concerned, and in PW, the author really has the opportunity of choice, although some may take more effort to make work than others.
/ ~ Actually, for all his internal bitching and moaning about Maya's antics, I think her sense of humor may actually be one of the things Phoenix likes most about her. I think he can use that sort of lightheartedness in his life. The 'old' comments are pretty harsh and may contraindicate the possibility of romance, I have to agree, but I don't recall her saying that often or recently at all, for that matter, so I wouldn't give it as much weight as I otherwise would. / ~ Yeah, these two do have issues, like I said. Luckily the scene at the end of the last trial is vague enough that it is possible to interpret it both ways. We still know very little about Iris' character, and how much she as actually grown up in the meantime, so I wouldn't feel comfortable trying to write her in a relationship at the moment. / ~ Looks like we've said everything about this already, unless you'd care to keep rambling on for a bit (which I wouldn't really mind, to be honest. I'd like to hear more about what others think of Phoenix/Mia.). As an open supporter of this pairing, can you recommend any ficcage that uses it, either pre-Mia's-death or post-Mia's-death?Quizer
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/ ~ I agree that while Phoenix often questions Maya's sanity and groans about her childishness the two have a strong relationship, I just can't view it as romantic. It just seems too much like and older brother/younger sister relationship to me. I think that she is a very important part of Phoenix's life and he does need her there, but I think of her (and pearl) as almost and extended family for Phoenix as the Feys have "adopted" him in. / ~...I still standby my previous point. She may have matured, but honestly, I can't say as we don't know much about her. She wasn't really developed beyond plot importance in the game. Iris and Phoenix as a couple (as I said) worked aroudn the 1-3 period, but I can't see it working...It feels almost like Capcom kinda stuck them together to say "Hey, look! Phoenix wasn't THAT bad of a judge of character!" (I have a similar problem with 
/ as it almost seems like a , "They are hot, therefore hot together, love them damnit!!!" situation). But, again, this is just my opinion. / ~ I can keep going on this if you want .As for good fics for this pairing:
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I am a rabid Diego/Mia shipper, and I think that it's a nice couple. Though you do present a good point,
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/ , I think that they may have considered dating prior to her, stealing a line from Quizer, "coming down with a bad case of dead". however, I don't think it actually happened. Mia's very responsibility oriented, and as his mentor, her first responsibility is to be his teacher and friend. Once he proved he could stand on his own two feet, then they might have actually gone beyond the "friends" stage in thier relationship.And "A Change Fine" is incredible. It's probably one of the most well-written
/ pieces (and there are very few) I've seen floating around.
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It feels almost like Capcom kinda stuck them together to say "Hey, look! Phoenix wasn't THAT bad of a judge of character!"
Actually, I kind of liked that aspect of it. In retrospect, it's quite obvious that the mystery of the discrepancies between Courtroom!Dahlia and his former girlfriend has haunted him through all these years. I think it was an excellent way to resolve that and give him closure.Quote:
Godot still obviously cares about her despite her complete absence from his life.
I think that's mostly him being caught up in the past. The difference becomes pretty obvious when you look at how Phoenix dealt with Mia's death and how Godot dealt with it. (Okay, so it's pretty unrealistic of me to expect Godot to deal the same as Phoenix when he just woke up to a changed reality.) Still, he saw the light at the end of that 3-5 case, so I don't feel revolted at imagining him and Mia being together in the afterlife.We have far too little insight into Present!Iris' character. I totally agree that
/ can't just resume their relationship of six years ago; that would be unrealistic. But we also don't know a lot about that relationship itself, only that Phoenix was still at the Butz stage of his personal development back then. Seems to me he may have been the one to do the bulk of growing up since then. The biggest problem I have with Iris is her willingness to help her sister do some really questionable things - that kind of doesn't scream 'mentally healthy'. Sibling loyalty should have been tossed to the wayside a whole lot earlier. Yeah, all this kind of makes it questionable whether she and Phoenix really can connect again. But Phoenix might be willing to talk it over at least, and as a fanfiction writer, you can work from there.Quote:
...but I think of her (and pearl) as almost and extended family for Phoenix as the Feys have "adopted" him in...
That's kind of neat, isn't it? Seems to me that Phoenix is the first guy to really show an interest in all this channeling stuff which was traditionally left to the female side of the clan. And as Phoenix's continued use of that Magatama shows, being unable to actually channel someone isn't exactly the end of the world there. Seems to me that the Kurain Channeling Tradition is on the upsurge. Hmm, I wonder, would Phoenix take the Fey name if he and Maya got married? 
I went and checked out Pyrasaur's stuff, but I don't think his/her writing style suits me. The prose is flowery to the point of being confusing, and the 'no dialogue - all narration' style just isn't my thing. Some of the anecdotals were pretty funny, although
is not someone I want to imagine in any kind of relationship. 'A Change Fine' is quite good actually, but if that short piece is the most excellent example of Phoenix/Mia in existence, then I'm probably going to be quite disappointed. 
I'm going to check out the other authors mentioned next.
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/ ~I think i've made my standpoint pretty clear, but you do bring up a good, point regarding her "sibling loyalty" to Dahlia. It's a very strange set up, as Iris sat there and helped her sister with some very unscrupulous things, and then turns around and says she would have tried to kill Dahlia if she couldn't have stopped her from getting at Phoenix...There are a great number of inconsistencies in her character (kinda like 
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I never said it was the perfect example, I just said it was one of the best. ^.^ I personally like it quite a bit.
I probably need to re-read it when my mind is fresher to derive some more meaning from the killer prose that is crammed chock-full with similes, metaphors, reading-between-the-lines stuff and more literary devices than I care to identify. I guess when trying to ready heavy stuff like this, it still shows that English isn't my native language. That doesn't mean I didn't think it was good, though.
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~I think i've made my standpoint pretty clear, but you do bring up a good, point regarding her "sibling loyalty" to Dahlia. It's a very strange set up, as Iris sat there and helped her sister with some very unscrupulous things, and then turns around and says she would have tried to kill Dahlia if she couldn't have stopped her from getting at Phoenix... There are a great number of inconsistencies in her character (kinda like ).Yeah, she seems a little imbalanced. She has her priorities straight with helping the people she is attached to, but little things like common sense kinda get tossed out of the window. I think that bit at the end means that during those six months, her attachment to Phoenix really surpassed the feeling of obligation to help out her sister. But does that mesh with her actions in the present?
I'm thinking of writing this humorous little fic where Nick, Maya and Iris conspire to channel Dahlia and have Phoenix and Iris act as a couple to throw that Phoenix/Iris trust thing at the end of the trial (which she regrettably wasn't around to witness) in her face and crush her spirit just a little bit more. Telling her they're now back together thanks to her and things like that. I'm kind of picturing this image of Pearls channeling Mia filming/photographing everything from the other side of the detention center window, looking up and waving as Dahlia notices her...
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I probably need to re-read it when my mind is fresher to derive some more meaning from the killer prose that is crammed chock-full with similes, metaphors, reading-between-the-lines stuff and more literary devices than I care to identify.
I guess being an english major kinda influences how I like that piece...XD
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Yeah, she seems a little imbalanced. She has her priorities straight with helping the people she is attached to, but little things like common sense kinda get tossed out of the window. I think that bit at the end means that during those six months, her attachment to Phoenix really surpassed the feeling of obligation to help out her sister. But does that mesh with her actions in the present?
Not really all things considered. If you think about it, she knew something was up the day Dahlia didn't meet with her, yet she did nothing, knowing full well that her sister had a very good reason to want
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I'm thinking of writing this humorous little fic where Nick, Maya and Iris conspire to channel Dahlia and have Phoenix and Iris act as a couple to throw that Phoenix/Iris trust thing at the end of the trial (which she regrettably wasn't around to witness) in her face and crush her spirit just a little bit more. Telling her they're now back together thanks to her and things like that. I'm kind of picturing this image of Pearls channeling Mia filming/photographing everything from the other side of the detention center window, looking up and waving as Dahlia notices her...
Send me the link if you do write it, the premise is hilarious. XD
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I'm not sure I'd say Iris is imbalanced. She is far too trusting and naive, hence why so many people are able to take advantage of her (not unlike Phoenix in many ways). She protected Dahlia because she loved her sister and truly believed that if she could get her sister out of trouble, Dahlia could change. There is also an element of guilt because in her behavior because Iris grew up loved while Dahlia grew up with her b***** of a father. Also remember that besides Bikini, Iris had no other links to her family and considering that many twins become very close (even though they hadn't seen each other for a while the bond could still exist from before and Iris is very loyal) and I imagine that it would be hard to turn your back on a loved one, despite what they had done. There are plenty of examples of people protecting their loved ones for various reasons and while this is certainly wrong, this doesn't automatically mean they're imbalanced. As for Phoenix/Iris, you really don't want to get me started on discussing the pairing because I love them as a couple (and I think there is plenty of evidence to suggest that they still have feelings for each other). One thing I will say is that, Dahlia, while probably annoyed, had waited at her sister's request and then suddenly she couldn't wait any longer. So what had changed? Dahlia had discovered that Iris had chosen Phoenix over her, hence her sudden actions against him without telling Iris anything and later on she chooses to defy Dahlia again (this involves much larger spoilers so I won't go into it for now).
Thanks for this enlightening post. Making her naive is much more palatable than making her imbalanced, and it explains most of those incongruities in her behavior pretty well.
Despite their problems, I think they might have a future if Phoenix decides to attempt to overcome those problems. They do have to work through more stuff than some of the other pairings, though.
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Dollie dear! Me and Feenie are back together now! Isn't that great?!♥
WHAAAAAAAAT?! How can anyone say no to such a great lover? ...O-OoOOOH! YOU! F─ Feenie...*kisses* ... Have fun with as many kisses as you want...It still doesn't change the fact that he has a freakish horse dong. Good luck getting around that! Ahahahaha! Oh my...
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I.........I-I feel very very ill.... I don't know what I was more shocked about: You or that snake. I'll admit it was fun. Of course, I could barely take it, sis has never even touched herself! Hey! I also remember you only having one boyfriend. I have no use for someone so pathetic. Bye. *vanishes* ... Feenie? Is that true? ...*blacks out* FEENIE?!Oh what fun!
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Despite their problems, I think they might have a future if Phoenix decides to attempt to overcome those problems. They do have to work through more stuff than some of the other pairings, though.
I'm not sure that's entirely true. I'm not denying that they would have plenty to overcome, but all of the pairings for Phoenix have their own unique issues. I am by no means bashing pairings. They all have their own charms and support, but they all have issues to overcome. This is simply my own reading of the games.
/ - She acts like she's twelve most of the time. Phoenix even comments at times that Pearl seems more mature then Maya. Let's throw in the fact that their behavior is very sibling-like. Do they love each other? Yes. Is it romantic love? That's were I run into difficulty. Maya even refers to herself as Phoenix's big sister twice in the third game and the playful teasing sounds more like banter between siblings then potential lovers. / - Besides the fact that she's dead, I never read any of her behavior toward Phoenix as romantic. She treats him like a rambunctious little brother, not a lover (although I won't deny the possibility that it could be fake and she could just be acting like a responsible mentor, but still I didn't read any romance there). Anyway, still she's still dead. / 
- So many issues... I'm at a loss of where to begin. I have never read romance in their actions. Two men can be good friends without being lovers. They just have so much emotional baggage (yes I know / does too. I'm not using this to rule out the pairing just to show that the Phoenix/ Iris pairing doesn't have more to overcome then most of the other pairings). I actually dislike this pairing, but that's my own opinion. / 
- Besides the fact that once again, I don't read romance there, even the love/ hate aspect doesn't really work. Her animosity at Phoenix had nothing to do with him. He was simply a stepping stone to reach her real goal, so I have trouble to see her actions as having to do with romantic feelings for Phoenix. There is slightly better argument for it in the third game, but I still don't see it. I don't like this one much either, but again my own reading.I think that's enough to make my point. None of the pairing are easy, so it shouldn't be ruled out because it might be difficult. All relationships are difficult in some way and all the pairing must overcome different issues.
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/ and / ) are based more in differences in maturity and what they need out of a relationship more than anything else...
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All the pairings have issues and you just have to decide which pairing you like best and deal with their own particular problems.
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Let's just continue in that vein and everything shall be fine, no?I didn't comment on the last two pairings because I didn't actually consider them yet. I think it's a bit sad that
/ is by far the most prevalent pairing on FFnet, as I'm not interested in slash at all and there's not really a lot of support for it even if you start grasping at straws. Especially Edgey is bogged down with emotional baggage; he's hardly ready for a simple friendship as things stand, let alone a romance (although there have been some noticeable improvements since the first game of the series). But I guess love really is blind. The way I prefer to interpret / 's banter as a friendship which can bloom into romance probably isn't really all that different, to be perfectly honest. / I agree, no support in the games for romance between those two at all. Any fanfic writer trying to make this work has to start from scratch and overcome a heavy aversion on Franzy's part as well. Still, a skilled writer can work with what isn't there and still make it turn out convincing (unless you are opposed to it from the start). But I still prefer to see Phoenix with the other girls.As for DaemonForce's response... this is a reference to that Doujin, isn't it? I can't read Japanese, so I had only a vague idea of what they were talking about, but the idea of Dahlia being kept continually off-balance by an amorous Phoenix is hilarious. If there's anything that can take Dahlia's mind off murder, that's probably the one thing that comes even remotely close.
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