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I think maybe they do channel her. Once everything is over, at any rate. Pearl never got that reading session that Elise wanted to give her, did she?
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i thought Ron was clearly not a thief since he was so PRETTY and adorable 
Well, I didn't have any problems with him being the thief because of the whole Kaitou thing. (Kaitou = Phantom Thief, they even translated it in the games that way. I write Kamikaze Kaitou Jeanne fanfiction, so I was quite delighted that one of the cases had a Kaitou theme.) But even despite that, I didn't see Desirée's line coming about it being okay because he sends notice cards... That was great.Anyway, I only had a problem with him being accused of murder, but that got all cleared up in the end, as we know...
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One has to channel their mother who, in her mind, died so that Maya could live.
The other would be talking with someone who died because of the fact that they wanted to protect their daughter from something that, without them, would've been the one who is NOT channeling,'s fault.
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I wonder who would feel worse for the first idea, Quizer?
One has to channel their mother who, in her mind, died so that Maya could live.
The other would be talking with someone who died because of the fact that they wanted to protect their daughter from something that, without them, would've been the one who is NOT channeling,'s fault.
Well, I imagine the awkward stuff would have been gotten out of the way before it actually happens. I'm not about to attempt it before I replay the entire case and get a better understanding of who to blame and for what.One has to channel their mother who, in her mind, died so that Maya could live.
The other would be talking with someone who died because of the fact that they wanted to protect their daughter from something that, without them, would've been the one who is NOT channeling,'s fault.
As for Maya, she's strong enough to deal. We've seen that in the ending. I think that actually knowing who her mother is and being able to talk to her is going to mean much more to her than her death, which is actually quite inconsequential in the grand scheme of things. Explaining Misty's incompetence/lack of judgment is going to be much harder.
As for Pearl and her blaming herself, I think they'd probably have dealt with that shortly after the case. Pearl isn't the type to angst endlessly over things, so I see Phoenix and Maya convincing her that she is not to blame. Although I picture her coming out of the talk a little disillusioned about her dear mother.
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Also, remember when Phoenix asks Maya to ask Pearl to channel Mia? To be honest, I think that despite the severe difference in examples, it'd still result in the same thing, if Maya considered channeling Elise. Not only that, but also, I have a feeling that the "picture book author" wouldn't be the only thing Pearl would ask about...
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Really? I picture Pearl pulling a "1-4 ending" to be honest... or JFA beginning...
Also, remember when Phoenix asks Maya to ask Pearl to channel Mia? To be honest, I think that despite the severe difference in examples, it'd still result in the same thing, if Maya considered channeling Elise. Not only that, but also, I have a feeling that the "picture book author" wouldn't be the only thing Pearl would ask about...
Also, remember when Phoenix asks Maya to ask Pearl to channel Mia? To be honest, I think that despite the severe difference in examples, it'd still result in the same thing, if Maya considered channeling Elise. Not only that, but also, I have a feeling that the "picture book author" wouldn't be the only thing Pearl would ask about...
You think Pearls would pull an Edgeworth?
The second paragraph here is far too cryptic for me to make sense of right now... please be a little more explicit, okay?
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Firstly, by "JFA", I mean "run away, unable to face the truth". With Maya, it was more of a "run away because I am of no use to anyone".
The second one: Maya told Phoenix that she couldn't dare ask Pearl to do something like that, as it would be asking too much, and she would feel guilty.
If Pearl asked to speak with Elise... actually, she wouldn't. She'd feel guilty about all of the events that occured, because to be honest, the most important aspect of the plan, was Pearl. Some may argue, but it's true. If Pearl wasn't involved, the plan could not have occured.
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Firstly, by "JFA", I mean "run away, unable to face the truth". With Maya, it was more of a "run away because I am of no use to anyone".
It's possible or even probable that Pearl wouldn't want to face the truth here, but it's not an insurmountable obstacle. Things like this have happened before and Phoenix is quite good at cracking those Psyche-Locks. I believe this is not something that has to be a cause of angst for the rest of Pearl's life.Quote:
The second one: Maya told Phoenix that she couldn't dare ask Pearl to do something like that, as it would be asking too much, and she would feel guilty.
Quite a few things have changed since then, but the important bit here is the parallel which you are trying to draw, and which I can't say I see. Maya asking Pearl to channel Mia and Maya channeling someone herself are two entirely different things. I don't understand what you are trying to say with it.Quote:
If Pearl asked to speak with Elise... actually, she wouldn't. She'd feel guilty about all of the events that occurred, because to be honest, the most important aspect of the plan, was Pearl. Some may argue, but it's true. If Pearl wasn't involved, the plan could not have occurred.
Pearl was nothing more than a pawn, and this is understood by everyone but herself. Absolving Pearl of her guilt isn't that hard, actually. If Misty herself told her she doesn't blame Pearl for her death she has to believe it, no?Quizer
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Not just that, but Maya is still somewhat afraid of channeling at this point, correct? (I say "somewhat" because that's all that anyone says in the canon text).
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I mean more along the lines of doing something really, really important.
I'm not sure I understand this. You mean that like Maya feeling it would be too much to ask Pearl to channel Mia, Pearl wouldn't want Maya to channel Misty? I don't see where the problem is, because Pearl can't protest if Maya just goes ahead and does it.Quote:
Not just that, but Maya is still somewhat afraid of channeling at this point, correct? (I say "somewhat" because that's all that anyone says in the canon text).
I agree that Maya probably wouldn't want to do another 'commercial' channeling like the Grey case without some extra precautions (=Phoenix in the room, etc.), but I don't think she has compunctions about channeling Mia, or her mother.Quizer
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That the big or small magatama would be used on the psyche-locks on the door in the Inner Temple.
Yeah, I thought those Psyche-Locks were somehow magical as well. I was almost disappointed when they turned out to be entirely mundane...Another misconception I had was that the whole murder setup (making it look like Mystic Ami had murdered Elise with the Shichishito) was because of Iris's hate of the supernatural, done to discredit channeling and the Fey clan and everything to do with it.
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That the big or small magatama would be used on the psyche-locks on the door in the Inner Temple.
Yeah, I thought those Psyche-Locks were somehow magical as well. I was almost disappointed when they turned out to be entirely mundane...Quizer
I thought that to. I think I heard somewhere that Iris and Dahlia had no spirit channeling powers but they could take psyche-locks and make them appear in the physical world. But I guess that wasn't a factor.
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I seriously thought that Pearl killed Elise in order to save Maya when Dahlia possessed Elise; she seemed like the only other person on that side of the bridge.
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I also tried to invoke the Magatama on the Psyche-Locks. Oh, well.
I would have tried to do that, if there had been a way. I expected Phoenix would have to come to terms with his feelings for Maya or something like that in order to open the locks. But there is no way to 'present' the magatama to the door, so I'm not quite sure how you 'tried'.Quizer
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My biggest misconception came from spoiling myself silly before I got the game, and then getting a plot point muddled in my head. At some point during Victor Kudo's testimony, I kept presenting the Crime Scene Photo because I thought I was trying to prove that he'd been watching a mirror. That'll learn me for reading spoilers, I guess.
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phoenix said he took advantage of the "waitress", i thought he meant that kudo was interested in Jean's "outfit". Scary...
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