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I just noticed that Apollo is only like, 17/18 In GS4 and Managed to Get a Job as Lawyer, Phoenix was 23 when HE Started out XD

What the....?
Apollo was 22 when he got his job, Phoenix was 24 when he got his.

To be fair, Apollo looks really young.


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Well, I don't look my age.....
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Well, I don't look my age.....

Me neither.
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GS5 needs to bring something new to the table. Something we've never seen before. I'm thinking the series needs more female villains/victims. After all, girls can be scarier than guys, especially when backed into a corner.

Actually, the series could use more females in general.
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Dahlia returns.....?
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She's used quite enough in T&T.
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The return of Larry Butz AND RESURRECTED CINDY STONE.... eheheh~!
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Klaz Eidron wrote:
Some of my ideas... (May not be good)
·Case 1: Flashback case, You play as Kristoph who explains how it all works to his aidee Apollo. The prosecutor is, of course, Winston Payne.
·Case 2: Present time, Apollo is the playable character, new prosecutor is introduced. Trucy could be the defendant.
·Case 3: Apollo has to defend a man that has already been in jail before for 2nd degree murder. Difficult case compared to the previous third cases.
·Case 4: Phoenix succesfully passes his law exam and is able to defend again. The prosecutor from the previous two cases is murdered and Apollo is accused of the crime. You play as Phoenix in this case, and the difficulty matches that of the PW games. Klavier prosecutes.
·Case 5, or the fanservice case: Maya visits Phoenix to congratulate him for his succesfull rehabilitation, but she finds him dead. She is set up as the guilty party by a mysterious person. Miles Edgeworth himself decides to prosecute this case as a 'personal matter', and Apollo decides to defend Maya. This case reveals what the majority of the old cast is doing now. Redd White turns out to be the murderer.

I like everything but about phoenix being a murder victim. Would rather kill someone else off. Or you could make the trial an attempted multiple homicide (one or two people get killed, and phoenix is in critical condition, cannot talk, and isn't even conscious. The whole case revolves around a few things, proving maya innocent, constant updates on phoenix's status, and as time progresses, he's being put through all sorts of surgeries to possibly save his life, and finding out who the real killer(s) are, etc.) That way you're more tense as the story progresses because you've gotta deal with multiple things that are all pretty tense.
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I may have mentioned this earlier but...how about a criminal who murders someone, incriminates someone else, and "creates a true murderer". Basically, another suspect disguised as a killer. When the Judge is about to render his verdict you have a choice between whether to let him pass judgment or stop him and continue the trial. Choose the former and the trial ends prematurely with the prosecution meeting you in the lobby and presenting the piece of evidence they had all along; the piece of evidence that would have found the real killer. Head back into the courtroom to watch the Guilty party receive its verdict. Choose the latter and the case continues on to the true ending.

A twist like that would definitely spice up a series quickly becoming riddled with cliches and overused themes (ONE TR00 KIILAR OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!11 FAEK SUSPKT!111! DRMA DRMA DRAM11!!)
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O rly? wrote:
Klaz Eidron wrote:
Some of my ideas... (May not be good)
·Case 1: Flashback case, You play as Kristoph who explains how it all works to his aidee Apollo. The prosecutor is, of course, Winston Payne.
·Case 2: Present time, Apollo is the playable character, new prosecutor is introduced. Trucy could be the defendant.
·Case 3: Apollo has to defend a man that has already been in jail before for 2nd degree murder. Difficult case compared to the previous third cases.
·Case 4: Phoenix succesfully passes his law exam and is able to defend again. The prosecutor from the previous two cases is murdered and Apollo is accused of the crime. You play as Phoenix in this case, and the difficulty matches that of the PW games. Klavier prosecutes.
·Case 5, or the fanservice case: Maya visits Phoenix to congratulate him for his succesfull rehabilitation, but she finds him dead. She is set up as the guilty party by a mysterious person. Miles Edgeworth himself decides to prosecute this case as a 'personal matter', and Apollo decides to defend Maya. This case reveals what the majority of the old cast is doing now. Redd White turns out to be the murderer.

I like everything but about phoenix being a murder victim. Would rather kill someone else off. Or you could make the trial an attempted multiple homicide (one or two people get killed, and phoenix is in critical condition, cannot talk, and isn't even conscious. The whole case revolves around a few things, proving maya innocent, constant updates on phoenix's status, and as time progresses, he's being put through all sorts of surgeries to possibly save his life, and finding out who the real killer(s) are, etc.) That way you're more tense as the story progresses because you've gotta deal with multiple things that are all pretty tense.

That makes me think of one episode of M*A*S*H where they had to save the person's life but were pressed for time. There was a clock in the corner of the screen that showed how close they were to not making it.
That could work for Phoenix to. You have to finish within the time limit thus making it even harder and even more tense! And if you run out of time Phoenix dies and you lose. But if get to a certain point then he lives and blows a huge hole in the case against Maya!
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After Hotel Dusk, I never want to see another time limit in my life.
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Honestly, Phoenix becoming a murder victim for one of his final appearances (which I doubt anytime soon; maybe 5,603,734 games later...) makes more sense than randomly disappearing and living peacefully for the rest of his life.
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Agreed. Time limits almost drive people from :matt: to :scratch:
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Bleachlover wrote:
Looks =/= Age

I know this may seem weird, but it's the truth in most cases.

As for the Percieve system...I don't care much.

I know that, but I'm just saying that Apollo's young appearance is probably why the guy assumed he was 18. I always thought he was 20 until I saw his profile, honestly.
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no big offence please do not hate me please but i think there should some black people charters. :keiko-sad: (please do no kill me)
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no big offence please do not hate me please but i think there should some black people charters. :keiko-sad: (please do no kill me)


Why would people flame you for wanting more black characters? O_o
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I have to say, I agree very much with the black characters thing... hmmm, have we had any? Not tanned, but genuine black characters. I suppose maybe in Japan there's a lower percentage...? And it's set in Japan originally. But it would be nice!
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Ooooh, yeah. Forgot about him. Well, in that case; more black characters in a larger position.
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Bleachlover wrote:
Connor?! wrote:
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What the....?
Apollo was 22 when he got his job, Phoenix was 24 when he got his.

To be fair, Apollo looks really young.


Looks =/= Age

I know this may seem weird, but it's the truth in most cases.

As for the Percieve system...I don't care much.



I Thought Apollo was only like, 2-3 Years older then Trucy, So I Assumed that he was 17 or 18 Since Trucy is 15.

XD If I was Basing off of Looks alone I would say Apollo was 21.
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Tell him, not me.
As for what you said, hanging out/ having an assistant who is 15 makes him young?
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Well, my assistant is 11 years younger than me. Does that make me his age then???? ROFL~
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Donald Serrot wrote:
O rly? wrote:
Klaz Eidron wrote:
Some of my ideas... (May not be good)
·Case 1: Flashback case, You play as Kristoph who explains how it all works to his aidee Apollo. The prosecutor is, of course, Winston Payne.
·Case 2: Present time, Apollo is the playable character, new prosecutor is introduced. Trucy could be the defendant.
·Case 3: Apollo has to defend a man that has already been in jail before for 2nd degree murder. Difficult case compared to the previous third cases.
·Case 4: Phoenix succesfully passes his law exam and is able to defend again. The prosecutor from the previous two cases is murdered and Apollo is accused of the crime. You play as Phoenix in this case, and the difficulty matches that of the PW games. Klavier prosecutes.
·Case 5, or the fanservice case: Maya visits Phoenix to congratulate him for his succesfull rehabilitation, but she finds him dead. She is set up as the guilty party by a mysterious person. Miles Edgeworth himself decides to prosecute this case as a 'personal matter', and Apollo decides to defend Maya. This case reveals what the majority of the old cast is doing now. Redd White turns out to be the murderer.

I like everything but about phoenix being a murder victim. Would rather kill someone else off. Or you could make the trial an attempted multiple homicide (one or two people get killed, and phoenix is in critical condition, cannot talk, and isn't even conscious. The whole case revolves around a few things, proving maya innocent, constant updates on phoenix's status, and as time progresses, he's being put through all sorts of surgeries to possibly save his life, and finding out who the real killer(s) are, etc.) That way you're more tense as the story progresses because you've gotta deal with multiple things that are all pretty tense.

That makes me think of one episode of M*A*S*H where they had to save the person's life but were pressed for time. There was a clock in the corner of the screen that showed how close they were to not making it.
That could work for Phoenix to. You have to finish within the time limit thus making it even harder and even more tense! And if you run out of time Phoenix dies and you lose. But if get to a certain point then he lives and blows a huge hole in the case against Maya!
Now THAT would be tense. Although I'm not sure putting a game clock in the corner would work, because the plot and whatnot such as arriving at a new scene gives you new times and whatnot. Maybe having a couple close calls such as convulsions or whatnot while in the hospital, and he nearly dies. But I like the clock idea too, makes things tense, but also could really screw someone over if they have a save point after spending ALOT of time trying to find that one piece of evidence, etc etc. Plus having a time clock in the corner you can apporximate how long the case is, or at least how long the part with phoenix in the hospital will last. I say just have updates via phone from trucy or even pearl or maya about phoenix's condition would make things a bit more tense and would also give us a plausable reason to bringing back pearl, maybe even larry, heck even gumshoe, and why not bring back frannie too (if edgeworth and the others are all gonna be back. She could whip Apollo into shape like she used to Phoenix and poor gumshoe) all working together in their own ways (Trucy or pearl watching over phoenix, giving you updates, etc, maybe offering some advice that phoenix would normally give you, something like "well... I'm not sure how I can help you but... I remember Mr. Nick back when Mystic Maya and him were still at the office... blah blah blah (insert hint/advice here)...")
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Or the clock could be like in Hotel Dusk. When you get to a certain point a big clock shows up showing how much time (in game world) Phoenix has to live if you don't succeed. It wouldn't actually keep time, just make things tense. And I like bringing back everyone to support Phoenix.
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My ideas:
Case 1=Trucy :minuki: , inspired by her Daddy :hobohodo: and Apollo, :odoroki: becomes an Ace Attorney as well! Easier 1st case than GS4

2nd case= :omg: RETURN OF THE WINDY OLDBAG!!!!!...
ohh... she dies...
but whos that old man in the office...
oh NOES!!!! :udgy:
in this case you learn about the characters from the Phoenix Arc :maya: :pearl: :karma: :franny: :godot: :damon: :sawit: :redd: :yogi: :lana: :jake: :grey: :hotti: :adrian: :acro: :chinami: :igarashi: :bellboy: :edgy: :edgeworth: :payne: :larry: :grossburg: :gregory: :meekins: :wellington: :yuusaku: :javado: :maggy: :zenitora: :sadshoe: :will: :keiko: :uramidn: and what are they up to
maybe not all of them...
New Prosecutor

3rd case= something to do with the Magicians... :minuki:

4th case= entirely new case
just :odoroki: , :minuki: :udgy: and ema involved

5th case= :odoroki: is accused of killing someone and :minuki: takes charge
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Or the clock could be like in Hotel Dusk. When you get to a certain point a big clock shows up showing how much time (in game world) Phoenix has to live if you don't succeed. It wouldn't actually keep time, just make things tense. And I like bringing back everyone to support Phoenix.

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Why do we need a clock at all?
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It was part of an idea inspired by an episode of M*A*S*H.
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Hotel Dusk, Trauma Center and PW crossover!!
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It would so cool if the whole game was based around some mega-huge Watergate style scanal. You'd have to play as half of the characters to figure out what is actually happened. I'd enjoy that.

You could use..

:hobohodo: Investigative skills.
:garyuu: Political Connections (we know he has them.)
:kyouya: / :edgeworth: Prosecutor powers.
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Case 1 - Intro

Case 2 - Random Case with Apollo

Case 3 - Apollo uses fake evidence(unknowingly), still end up with 'Not Guilty' but is suspended from court. Prosecutor is von Karma.

Case 4 - Phoenix's suspension is lifted, and he got his badge back, but refuses to go in court. Later visits Kurain and Maya is accused again (Morgan Fey released at this point). Phoenix asks apollo to defend but he can't. Phoenix then goes back being a lawyer to save maya. Case won. Later opens up his office again. Maya returns as part-time manager.(still goes back to kurain from time to time)

Case 5 - Phoenix is accused. Apollo gets his badge back and defends phoenix. Case has some connection with phoenix's suspension from the past. Prosecutor is Edgeworth. in the end, case is won and Phoenix's name is officially cleared.

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-Phoenix can still use Magatama.
-Phoenix lends Apollo the Magatama on 5th case.
-game has Voice Overs.
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I Don't think any of the Phoenix Arc Characters should unnecessarily Return in GS5, its a little soon.
I think that something like all the Great Characters returning Should be something Saved for a Grande Finale of the Entire series.

Like, by GS8 there is a Giant Over-Aching Plot from ALL the Ace Attorney games, then in like, GS26, RIGHT when the Protagonist is about to Die or something because of the real Murderer an Attorneys Badge HITS the Murder Weapon knocking it out of the way saving the Protagonist and then the Camera Zooms over to who threw the Badge and the Light shines Bright and you can only see a silhouette to who threw it, and it would be like, Phoenix or Apollo(because they would be old characters by GS26) and then that would be like, the inspiration for that Protagonist, and s/he becomes a defense Attorney.

And this Particular Character would only be the Protagonist for GS26 since its like, the Grande Finale, and then by this Point the Games have Strayed a bit from the Investigate-Courtroom-Investigate Game play, and the Plot involve SOME Sort of Action like, instead of just Exposing that HE'S the Murderer, you find out HE'S the Murderer, AND HE'S ABOUT TO KILL SOMEONE! Then you Run to the Place where its gonna happen and we get treated to a Cut-scene of Protagonist Wrestling down the Murderer or something, then before he gets killed he gets saved by a Combo team of Returning characters in one of those "OH NOES! DX huh? ._.? YOU! :D" Type things, The True Deadly Organized Crime thing or whatever is Arrested and then the FINAL Artwork would be some sort of Giant Artwork of all the NOT-Evil Characters from all the 26 games or something you know?


Basically I'm saying if you want Characters to return you should wait until Later in the series when it will be More EPIC.


A Good idea for GS5 though would be to introduce a Over-Arching plot that would span Mystery's into GS6 and so on until by the time it DOES end it would all be solved and stuff.


NOW THAT WOULD BE EPIC AND AWESOME!
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Be more epic?

I can imagine some case when all is lost and suddenly we hear Edgey's famous battle scarred velvet Objection.

*I must do that in Court one day.*
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Heh, DID IT before you do.
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GS5 needs to bring something new to the table. Something we've never seen before. I'm thinking the series needs more female villains/victims. After all, girls can be scarier than guys, especially when backed into a corner.

Actually, the series could use more females in general.


Spoiler: lol everything, first three games
AA1 :
Victims: 2 female(Cindy Stone, Mia Fey.), 3 male (Jack Hammer, Richard Hammond, Bruce Goodman), 2 male "victims" (Neil Marshall, Gregory Edgeworth).
Villains: 4 male (Frank Sahwit, Redd White, Manfred von Karma, Damon Gant), 1 female (Dee Vasquez), with 1 female (April May) and 2 male (Sal Manella, Yanni Yogi) accomplices.

AA2:
Victims: 4 male, (Dustin Prince, Turner Grey, Russell Berry, Juan Corrida) 1 female "victim" (Celeste Inpax).
Villains: 3 male (Richard Wellington, Acro, Matt Engarde), 1 female (Mimi Miney), with 1 male (Shelly de Killer) and 1 female (Morgan Fey) accomplice.

AA3:
Victims: 3 male (Doug Swallow, Kane Bullard, Glen Elg), 2 female (Elise Deauxnim, Valerie Hawthorne), 1 male "victim" (Terry Fawles).
Villains: 2 male (Luke Atmey, Furio Tigre), 1 to 4 female (lol Dahlia), 1 male "villain" (Godot), 1 female accomplice (Violetta Cadaverini).

Totals: 14 male vs. 5 female victims , and 13 male vs. 9 female villains. So yeah, especially for victims we'd need more females. For villains.. meh. Villains like Dahlia, Morgan, and Mimi are a lot stronger than quite a few of the male villains.

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