Does anyone else think that the English translation of this

Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:54 pm

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Could have been better?
I mean the jokes (IMO) aren't as clever or funny. The characters don't seem so interesting (the new ones). The old ones seem odd, the Judge seems more serious, which I personally don't like, Phoenix seem more or less the same I guess, Mayais just really annoying, she is like how she was, only over the top so, ruining the character IMO. And Gumshoe just doesn't seem like Gumshoe much anymore...
The storylines are still translated well, not as good as PW1, and I am not saying they did a bad job her,e just in comparison...It isn't as good -_-

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Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:09 pm

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Wellington and Matt owned all the new and old guys.

what do i is called rollplaying, i really don't think i am richard.

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Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:13 pm

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Hmm. I think most of what you've listed can be accounted for not by the translation, but just the game itself. A few changes may have to do with the translators, but overall not really.

I did notice a few more typographical errors than in the previous game, but overall the translation didn't seem that different.

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Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:22 pm

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Well I assumed that some of it was so different it must have been down to translators (I know there was a different one for PW1 than PW2) but I guess I was wrong >.>

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Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:29 pm

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I'm sorry to break it to you, but Maya is annoying no matter what language you play the game in. Maya Shock

*ahem* I mean, other than the spelling and grammar errors, I thought the translation seemed fine.

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Tue Apr 17, 2007 3:29 pm

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Play PW1 again. You'll see the Judge was pretty serious in the first few cases anyhow.

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Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:03 pm

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I thought JFA has been more a comedy game than AA, and that's why I haven't taken it so serious as AA. I thought the jokes were pretty funny, wish the pattern could be continued in TT (Even though I think TT's gonna be a more serious game Payne

) As for errors and typos and stuff, I don't care so much because I'm not an expert at English myself.

The Judge and Gumshoe being funnier JFA than AA isn't what I call "made in English translation", Guess it's more of Takumi's work. Look at case 1-5, Udgey's more clueless than a puppy who just opened their eyes. Rest of the AA cases he's the more serious guy. Same goes for Gumshoe.
If I'm not mistaken, the same translation team translated the whole first game from beginning to end? But I'm still seeing a great difference between case 1-5 and case 1 to 4, script-wise. So, I guess it's more of a "character personality change" than a "made in English translation" thingy that took place Godot

I pretend Takumi decided to make Udgey and Gumshoe goofier after AA, which was a complete success. And since Case 1-5 was made after Gs3, it's natural that they use the "final design" of the character in question. :inspect:

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Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:32 pm

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No. Case 1-5 was done by someone else, Case 1-1 to 1-4 were translated by Alex O. Smith.

Overall, JFA was the "black sheep" in the series. The script was overall "weaker", the characters weren't as crazy as AA. They seemed more average and people that you and I are more likely going to know - moreso than the ones in AA. It's because of this "averageness" and "simplicity", JFA might not seem as strong as AA.

Also, I think since AA was outsourced, maybe Smith and the outsourced company took more liberty with the characters and the dialogues - as opposed to the localisation team who worked much closer with Takumi? (It was mentioned that Takumi had worked with the team on the localised names and all that - and none of that was ever brought up when AA was released...) So maybe that's why some stuff weren't as "way out there"...?

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Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:36 am

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chikori wrote:

Overall, JFA was the "black sheep" in the series. The script was overall "weaker", the characters weren't as crazy as AA. They seemed more average and people that you and I are more likely going to know - moreso than the ones in AA. It's because of this "averageness" and "simplicity", JFA might not seem as strong as AA.

Sorry, but thats where i think i have to disagree with you. AA had the strong advantage of being the first one released, wheras JFA had to live up to everyones expectations after the amazing original. If one were to stand them together, I think that they are roughly equal. The thing that really bugs me about AA is that, with the exception of Case 5, all of the chapters are very short. It seems like the goal is simply to reach the 3 day mark, unlike in JFA, where the cases are all loaded with information and script. I also like the characters in JFA just as much as the ones in the original (Matt Engarde! Yeah!), although they did seem to bring back a lot of the more annoying characters. Amd how can you call any of the characters "average" or "simple"? Just look at Morgan

and

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I won't try taking the stand on the typos though, I mean seriously, they messed up one of the biggest lines in the game. "The miracle never happen." Honestly.

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Sun Aug 12, 2007 6:23 pm

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I completely and totally agree.

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Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:52 pm

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Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:29 pm

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Sun Sep 30, 2007 12:56 pm

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Croik wrote:

*ahem* I mean, other than the spelling and grammar errors, I thought the translation seemed fine.

whut? Me learn grahmmer an spilling frum feeniks rite. Me spehl knot bad. grammar iz not badd ether.

All silliness aside, I find the translation to be quite well done. The jokes aren't...too bad..

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Sun Sep 30, 2007 6:45 pm

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"You're the man now, doll" made me want to punch someone.

Otherwise, I thought the writing was fine.

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Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:26 pm

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MIRACLE NEVER HAPPEN made me laugh in one of the most serious parts of the game. But, I honestly thought JFA was somewhat better than AA. I also thought that JFA was more humorous than AA. I mean, seriously. Are baseballs suspicious just because they have stitches? :D

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Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:47 pm

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I enjoyed JFA just fine except for the typos which irked me slightly. 2:4 is epic. I just wish there had been five games rather than 4.

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Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:43 pm

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The writing was good. Since English isn't my native language, I don't really notice any typos (Exept miracle never happen). Still, it could have been better.

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Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:04 pm

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Obviously, it's only a matter of opinion..
But I personally think JFA's translation is much better than AA's (possibly because of the original script).
Of course, AA's dialogue is efficient and incredibly well thought when compared to any other game.
But it doesn't particularly stand out compared to the job they did on JFA.
JFA's translation is richer and more ambitious: jokes, catchphrases, pop culture references, etc.
Besides, they manage to render the actual rhythm of a conversation, while AA's dialogue often seems rushed.
T&T is yet another improvement. Luke Atmey and Godot's language is almost poetry, for instance.

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Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:01 am

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I thought it was fine. The jokes were so lame and becuz it was that lame i thought that was funny. Especially Moe's jokes... they were stupid but it made me laugh nevertheless

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Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:15 pm

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Be happy you had the English translation.
Moe's jokes in German were just..awful. Like Harry Potter 7.

I never really played it in English, but I liked the game. It had much more storyline and stuff.

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Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:54 pm

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Croik wrote:

I'm sorry to break it to you, but Maya is annoying no matter what language you play the game in. :maya-shock:

But IMHO, not as annoying as Pearl!

Moe's jokes were OK though (I actually laughed at the 'no shirt, no shoes, no service' one)!

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Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:59 pm

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they are quite alot of spelling and grammer errors they dnt stop gameplay much but can be bad if you notice
eg - mircales do happened * i know i spelt the 1st word wrong myself that wasnt the error)

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Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:13 pm

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I didn't that the translation for JFA was as great as the other games, but prolly 'cause I just didn't really like JFA in general. AA's was good--not that special--but T&T's was genius.

But I never noticed any of the typos. Not even the infamous, "the miracle never happen" line. But that's 'cause I picked the bad ending first to see what it was like (saved right on that choice). Then I was like, "YAAAY! TrenchCoat!Phoenix is fun!!" Then I read: "The miracle never happ--" Realized it's going to be 'happened', get bored, and restart it to see the good ending.

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