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It would so cool if the whole game was based around some mega-huge Watergate style scanal. You'd have to play as half of the characters to figure out what is actually happened. I'd enjoy that.

You could use..

:hobohodo: Investigative skills.
:garyuu: Political Connections (we know he has them.)
:kyouya: / :edgeworth: Prosecutor powers.
and so on.
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Case 1 - Intro

Case 2 - Random Case with Apollo

Case 3 - Apollo uses fake evidence(unknowingly), still end up with 'Not Guilty' but is suspended from court. Prosecutor is von Karma.

Case 4 - Phoenix's suspension is lifted, and he got his badge back, but refuses to go in court. Later visits Kurain and Maya is accused again (Morgan Fey released at this point). Phoenix asks apollo to defend but he can't. Phoenix then goes back being a lawyer to save maya. Case won. Later opens up his office again. Maya returns as part-time manager.(still goes back to kurain from time to time)

Case 5 - Phoenix is accused. Apollo gets his badge back and defends phoenix. Case has some connection with phoenix's suspension from the past. Prosecutor is Edgeworth. in the end, case is won and Phoenix's name is officially cleared.

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-Phoenix can still use Magatama.
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-game has Voice Overs.
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I Don't think any of the Phoenix Arc Characters should unnecessarily Return in GS5, its a little soon.
I think that something like all the Great Characters returning Should be something Saved for a Grande Finale of the Entire series.

Like, by GS8 there is a Giant Over-Aching Plot from ALL the Ace Attorney games, then in like, GS26, RIGHT when the Protagonist is about to Die or something because of the real Murderer an Attorneys Badge HITS the Murder Weapon knocking it out of the way saving the Protagonist and then the Camera Zooms over to who threw the Badge and the Light shines Bright and you can only see a silhouette to who threw it, and it would be like, Phoenix or Apollo(because they would be old characters by GS26) and then that would be like, the inspiration for that Protagonist, and s/he becomes a defense Attorney.

And this Particular Character would only be the Protagonist for GS26 since its like, the Grande Finale, and then by this Point the Games have Strayed a bit from the Investigate-Courtroom-Investigate Game play, and the Plot involve SOME Sort of Action like, instead of just Exposing that HE'S the Murderer, you find out HE'S the Murderer, AND HE'S ABOUT TO KILL SOMEONE! Then you Run to the Place where its gonna happen and we get treated to a Cut-scene of Protagonist Wrestling down the Murderer or something, then before he gets killed he gets saved by a Combo team of Returning characters in one of those "OH NOES! DX huh? ._.? YOU! :D" Type things, The True Deadly Organized Crime thing or whatever is Arrested and then the FINAL Artwork would be some sort of Giant Artwork of all the NOT-Evil Characters from all the 26 games or something you know?


Basically I'm saying if you want Characters to return you should wait until Later in the series when it will be More EPIC.


A Good idea for GS5 though would be to introduce a Over-Arching plot that would span Mystery's into GS6 and so on until by the time it DOES end it would all be solved and stuff.


NOW THAT WOULD BE EPIC AND AWESOME!
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Be more epic?

I can imagine some case when all is lost and suddenly we hear Edgey's famous battle scarred velvet Objection.

*I must do that in Court one day.*
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Heh, DID IT before you do.
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GS5 needs to bring something new to the table. Something we've never seen before. I'm thinking the series needs more female villains/victims. After all, girls can be scarier than guys, especially when backed into a corner.

Actually, the series could use more females in general.


Spoiler: lol everything, first three games
AA1 :
Victims: 2 female(Cindy Stone, Mia Fey.), 3 male (Jack Hammer, Richard Hammond, Bruce Goodman), 2 male "victims" (Neil Marshall, Gregory Edgeworth).
Villains: 4 male (Frank Sahwit, Redd White, Manfred von Karma, Damon Gant), 1 female (Dee Vasquez), with 1 female (April May) and 2 male (Sal Manella, Yanni Yogi) accomplices.

AA2:
Victims: 4 male, (Dustin Prince, Turner Grey, Russell Berry, Juan Corrida) 1 female "victim" (Celeste Inpax).
Villains: 3 male (Richard Wellington, Acro, Matt Engarde), 1 female (Mimi Miney), with 1 male (Shelly de Killer) and 1 female (Morgan Fey) accomplice.

AA3:
Victims: 3 male (Doug Swallow, Kane Bullard, Glen Elg), 2 female (Elise Deauxnim, Valerie Hawthorne), 1 male "victim" (Terry Fawles).
Villains: 2 male (Luke Atmey, Furio Tigre), 1 to 4 female (lol Dahlia), 1 male "villain" (Godot), 1 female accomplice (Violetta Cadaverini).

Totals: 14 male vs. 5 female victims , and 13 male vs. 9 female villains. So yeah, especially for victims we'd need more females. For villains.. meh. Villains like Dahlia, Morgan, and Mimi are a lot stronger than quite a few of the male villains.

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nooooooooo
dont ignore my ideas!!!!!!!!!! :jazzron: :accordion-head:
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Omg, a kid of those two as an aide would possibly more adorkable thn anything EVER. CAPCOM. LISTENPLZ~


Man it is actually really easy to imagine a kid via those two.

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Hahahaha no.

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How about a murderer from a past game is framed for another murder and needs to be defended. Apollo is reluctant at first, but Trucy or Phoenix helps him to reconsider. Characters from the case where your client was guilty before appear as well. At the end, the defendant, although found Not Guilty, has to remain in jail, but he/she expresses gratitude and only wishes at some point he/she could be released. Apollo also learns a valuable lesson from the whole case.
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TSS... I actualy like that idea!
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I knew TSS has really great ideas apart from what he pulls up in the word games. Hmm, awesome minds think alike (minus the swearing & flaming).
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Mexico? Maybe.

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Possible GS5 spoilers:

The court finds your client guilty to save society from YOU!!

or

You ARE the murderer!!

No need to thank me for the idea, just send money.
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YOU DID IT APOLLO
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Stop trying to latch on my ideas. Go home Roger! ;D
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I vote a case where you defend Tia and Tamera and everyone dies and we all get ice cream <3
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maybe 'Mia Fey: Rookie attorney'. FlashBack cases of all Mia's cases. The main prosecutor is young Edgeworth and Von Karma is the 4th case prosecutor.
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gentleman wrote:
maybe 'Mia Fey: Rookie attorney'. FlashBack cases of all Mia's cases. The main prosecutor is young Edgeworth and Von Karma is the 4th case prosecutor.

Uh, in order to respect canon you'd have to lose every case in the game.
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DoctorDiablo wrote:
gentleman wrote:
maybe 'Mia Fey: Rookie attorney'. FlashBack cases of all Mia's cases. The main prosecutor is young Edgeworth and Von Karma is the 4th case prosecutor.

Uh, in order to respect canon you'd have to lose every case in the game.

Or you could take on Payne. Giving his character more depth.
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Nah... Maybe.. A new character?
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I would like a case were you defend Shelly de Killer wha has addmited to all of his jobs apart from were he claims that he was framed.

A case were you defend someone who has a split personality and the side that doesn't ask for your services commited the crime

And something silly like a hypmotised murderer.

Oh and and major character from the PW saga should be killed off, a nice twist.

And maby Edgeworth for the final Prosacutor and a promoted Gumshoe.
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gentleman wrote:
maybe 'Mia Fey: Rookie attorney'. FlashBack cases of all Mia's cases. The main prosecutor is young Edgeworth and Von Karma is the 4th case prosecutor.


The title doesn't make much sense seeing as Nick was an Ace Attorney from the first game :P

Secondly, Edgeworth said that he and Mia only faced each other in court once.
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I'd rather play GS4 firs before I decide if I want a new prosecutor or not.
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After playing 3-3, I want to see Odoroki take on the one villain who managed to slip past Phoenix, leaving her partner in crime to take the fall alone. Of course, I'm talking about Viola Cadaverini.

Here's one idea-

Minuki and Ema's favorite restaurant has been burned to the ground and the brilliant young chef cut to shreds. Official evidence points to owner Jean Armstrong. With some assistance from Takita and Maggey Byrde, Odoroki must prove it was really vicious loan shark and yakuza heiress Viola Cadaverini who did the foul deed.
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TSS wrote:
How about a murderer from a past game is framed for another murder and needs to be defended. Apollo is reluctant at first, but Trucy or Phoenix helps him to reconsider. Characters from the case where your client was guilty before appear as well. At the end, the defendant, although found Not Guilty, has to remain in jail, but he/she expresses gratitude and only wishes at some point he/she could be released. Apollo also learns a valuable lesson from the whole case.


That's a really good idea - like Nick in 2-4, Apollo could learn "what it means to be a lawyer" through this case and I think this could make a good finale for GS5.
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OH FAHK NO!

I had just written a wonderful, long, GS5 last-case set up only to find out that the board auto-logged me out.

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That would make a good case, too, I suppose :x
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i want a case were you play as :hobohodo: against grown up edgeworth or Lana i've always wanted to face her in court

or even better a case where

the cat did it! :shoe: the kitty of DOOM!
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Phoenix was found innocent of forging evidence in G24 right? So I guess he would be able to practice law again.


Maybe Phoenix does start practicing law again... but not as a defense attorney. A prosecutor! This would truly be a 'wtf' thing. But... maybe not in the good way. .... I guess the chances of Phoenix becoming a prosecutor is very, very slim. But I do wonder who's going to be the next prosecutor in G25. Now this is going to be bothering me for a while.
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chazooma wrote:
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Phoenix was found innocent of forging evidence in G24 right? So I guess he would be able to practice law again.


Maybe Phoenix does start practicing law again... but not as a defense attorney. A prosecutor! This would truly be a 'wtf' thing. But... maybe not in the good way. .... I guess the chances of Phoenix becoming a prosecutor is very, very slim. But I do wonder who's going to be the next prosecutor in G25. Now this is going to be bothering me for a while.


I don't think Phoenix could cut it as a prosecutor. But that's just me.

Here's my favorite idea for GS5

"Kristoph Gavin: Attorney To The Stars"

He seems like the Defense Attorney a rich Hollywood/ New York person would want in a pinch.
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chazooma wrote:
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Phoenix was found innocent of forging evidence in G24 right? So I guess he would be able to practice law again.


Maybe Phoenix does start practicing law again... but not as a defense attorney. A prosecutor! This would truly be a 'wtf' thing. But... maybe not in the good way. .... I guess the chances of Phoenix becoming a prosecutor is very, very slim. But I do wonder who's going to be the next prosecutor in G25. Now this is going to be bothering me for a while.


First, it's "GS4" and "GS5". Second, Phoenix has no reason to become a prosecutor. He said that the only reason he became a lawyer to was to find out why Edgeworth had changed. It's like the idea I had a while back of Edgeworth becoming a defense attorney; he has no reason to.
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Walkie Talkie Man wrote:
It's like the idea I had a while back of Edgeworth becoming a defense attorney; he has no reason to.

It was his childhood ambition to be just like his father, prior to DL-6.
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Walkie Talkie Man wrote:
It's like the idea I had a while back of Edgeworth becoming a defense attorney; he has no reason to.

It was his childhood ambition to be just like his father, prior to DL-6.

Yeah, but then he decides that his place is as a prosecutor. It doesn't fit with the canon story line for Edgeworth to become a defense attorney. I also agree that it makes little sense for Phoenix to become a prosecutor. Unlike Edgeworth, who at least had a background in defense, Phoenix has none in being a prosecutor. Besides it seems like he's already set up as Apollo's mentor by the end of GS4 so if he returns to being a lawyer (as I hope he does), he'll likely still be a defense attorney.
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Phoenix will most likely be the new Marvin Grossberg to the AJ series.(I know I know)
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Phoenix will most likely be the new Marvin Grossberg to the AJ series.(I know I know)

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I'd also like to see a mafia-case. Serve justice and get "whacked", or chicken out and live?
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Walkie Talkie Man wrote:
chazooma wrote:
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Phoenix was found innocent of forging evidence in G24 right? So I guess he would be able to practice law again.


Maybe Phoenix does start practicing law again... but not as a defense attorney. A prosecutor! This would truly be a 'wtf' thing. But... maybe not in the good way. .... I guess the chances of Phoenix becoming a prosecutor is very, very slim. But I do wonder who's going to be the next prosecutor in G25. Now this is going to be bothering me for a while.


First, it's "GS4" and "GS5". Second, Phoenix has no reason to become a prosecutor. He said that the only reason he became a lawyer to was to find out why Edgeworth had changed. It's like the idea I had a while back of Edgeworth becoming a defense attorney; he has no reason to.


I know, I know. That's why I said there was slim chance, probably not even worth mentioning anymore (or really at all). It was just a little idea I thought of on a whim. I didn't expect people to rag on me about it or actually take it even a little seriously.

On another thing, I also wonder what the reason for Apollo himself for becoming a defense attorney himself. He puts a whole lot of determination it looks like in his work, so what motivates him? An event in his background? Maybe something to do with his father? Maybe his father was wrongfully executed and Apollo then decided to become a defense attorney? Or maybe not.

When updates for GS5 come out, I'll probably be busy spoiling myself silly.
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chazooma wrote:
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Phoenix was found innocent of forging evidence in G24 right? So I guess he would be able to practice law again.


Maybe Phoenix does start practicing law again... but not as a defense attorney. A prosecutor! This would truly be a 'wtf' thing. But... maybe not in the good way. .... I guess the chances of Phoenix becoming a prosecutor is very, very slim. But I do wonder who's going to be the next prosecutor in G25. Now this is going to be bothering me for a while.


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If what you say is true, then I say this: Since Phoenix was proven innocent in the case in question... I suggest that he be Apollo's Mentor. Might as well since even Apollo would need help. Also that he should get Wright & Co. back up and running. Perhaps we will see a more mature Pearls? MAYBE WITHOUT THE WHOLE LOVE FANTASY THING!? MAYBE!? No really... I'd love to see Pearls change in personality to be a bit more mature or like Maya.

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Or the clock could be like in Hotel Dusk. When you get to a certain point a big clock shows up showing how much time (in game world) Phoenix has to live if you don't succeed. It wouldn't actually keep time, just make things tense. And I like bringing back everyone to support Phoenix.

Now that I definetly can see working well. It settles alot of things. It brings back a good chunk of the old cast, but not focusing completely on them, they're just there to do what they can, while apollo, and the new cast (maybe with the "help" from edgeworth) have to stick it out on their own, and figure it out, without nick providing help/advice. Not only would this be a great chance to develope Apollo's character, but also helps him prove in his own way that he's no longer "a rookie defense attourney." (I realize that he was a rookie in game 4, but I truly don't feel hes grown enough yet.)
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