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You know, Tinker, as wrong as I can see it ask, I CAN actually see them as 2 separate characters... Granted, I still think that doing so at THIS stage would make it a horrible crime to the fans of the series... (If it was Melee, they MIGHT be able to get away with it...)
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Topaz Fey wrote:
Wheee!! I love that Lucario "confirmation" thingy!!
Hopefully, he's availiable from the start.
I even have Lucario's moves all planned out! (I'm that sad.)

Up + B: Hi Jump Kick
Across + B : Something like Falcon's Down + B.
Down + B: Counter
B: Aura Sphere (Like Mewtwo's Shadow Ball)

FS: Close Combat (Gets close and unleashes a HELL LOAD of punches & kicks)
Anyone else except me peeing themselves in excitement that Lucario may be in Brawl?

Sounds somewhat like the moveset I came up for Lucario way back when his possible inclusion in Brawl first came up. I'm not going to go back 90-ish pages to find it, but it went something like this:

B - Aura Sphere. Faster if not charged, but better at homing in on opponents. More powerful and slower if charged, barely any homing capability.

Side B - Extremespeed. Much like Fox's side B move.

Down B - Reversal. Works like counter, but increases the damage done depending on Lucario's percentage at the moment.

Up B - A: Sky Uppercut. Self-explanitory.
B: Also considered Bounce, which would simply launch Lucario high, creating a small impact and/or shockwave if done from the ground.

FS - A: Close Combat. Pretty much works the same way, just with one great punch/kick at the end for a good finish.
B: Focus Blast. Lucario rises into the air, creates a huge red ball of energy and throws it straight down onto the stage. The blast starts to expand, and it has a suction effect that slowly pulls the other fighters in. Ends with a large explosion.
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I'm more interested in what Ness's is gonna be... and SOOORT'VE interested in Jigglypuff's as well, in a way...... but not much...
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Can I ask something?

Stickers mean that it could be anything right?

I would actually like Lucario better as an assist trophy that could have made it(I don't know why, but anyway...).
If that thing were a character I wouldn't care, we need more characters.
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I'll check if it could mean that. Maybe a hint was given before...? (In other words, I'll check any pages where Stickers were used, since maybe there's an answer there, but the consensus is hard to beat...)

Also, I laughed when ye said "Can I ask something?". It's a forum. I didn't think people say that anymore! I normally would've expected, "What if the stickers mean that it can be used on Assist Trophies? Did anyone consider THAT?".

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Bleachlover wrote:

I would actually like Lucario better as an assist trophy...


Wouldn't he be in a pokeball?

And I doubt that assist trophies can be powered up, because stickers can only be used in SSE, where as assist trophies look like they will appear primarily in vs. mode.
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andrx wrote:
Bleachlover wrote:

I would actually like Lucario better as an assist trophy...


Wouldn't he be in a pokeball?

And I doubt that assist trophies can be powered up, because stickers can only be used in SSE, where as assist trophies look like they will appear primarily in vs. mode.

I want to see a change, instead of the boring Poke'balls, wouldn't it be a pleasent surprise to see a Poke'mon as an assist trophy?

I see assist trophies as possible candidates, but didn't make it.(that's obvious)
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I think it would be rather unnecessary to place stickers on individual ATs. Primparily because they're random in selection (and thus, you'd only get the boosted assistance quite rarely), but also because it would be an annoying process to apply them to each AT base. There might be a sticker that just boosts ATs altogether, but that's it. Anything else would just get too complicated.


Don't forget, we may see them as characters, but Assist Trophies are items, They probably fall under item-boosting stickers.


EDIT: Having Pokémon ATs pretty much contradicts the entire point of Pokéballs. I thought that'd be fairly obvious.
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Why is every one talking about putting stickers on assist trophies?

I have no idea why everyone is mentioning it.

I don't remember saying anything like that. I sort of see the stickers as collectibles as well as upgrades.
So if I see a Lucario sticker, I think that it's somewhere in the game, maybe as an assist trophy?
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Wrestlemania wrote:
I normally would've expected, "What if the stickers mean that it can be used on Assist Trophies?


This is what we were all adressing.
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I meant the wording he had used. It was more of a "Yes or No" style response to be given back, than a "Discuss it"-esque request.

Also, this just hit me recently: A while back I mentioned that my Dad convinced the people at NP to send a Brawl players' guide. That was in the beginning of Januray, around that. 6 weeks later, I'll have a guide, and Brawl STILL won't be out!

Great. I'll have a magazine with all the information of the game within it... and I won't be able to open it, since I KNOW I'll be spreading the "contents" around this topic (which is now getting close to 100 pages).
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Wrestlemania wrote:
I meant the wording he had used. It was more of a "Yes or No" style response to be given back, than a "Discuss it"-esque request.

Also, this just hit me recently: A while back I mentioned that my Dad convinced the people at NP to send a Brawl players' guide. That was in the beginning of Januray, around that. 6 weeks later, I'll have a guide, and Brawl STILL won't be out!

Great. I'll have a magazine with all the information of the game within it... and I won't be able to open it, since I KNOW I'll be spreading the "contents" around this topic (which is now getting close to 100 pages).

Well, I don't consider unlockable characters as spoilers. I only consider the story mode as the spoiler.
If you want to talk to me about the CHARACTERS, that's fine.
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True, I'll probably not want to read about Story Mode's... story.....

So Assuming there's also a WORTHWHILE character that would've had yet to be announced, then I'd probably mention it... exp., Megaman, Chrono, etc...

Yes, I know some ideas are hopeless, but still!
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Just show me Luigi and I'm good.
Megaman would be awesome too, a man can dream.; ;
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Just show me Luigi and I'm good.
Megaman would be awesome too, a man can dream.;_;

Fix'd a little,
Luigi has to be there, but I don't want his horrible haunted masion form. >:(
Yeah that other character too, which I will not state for someone might take it the wrong way.
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If they made Mario use Flood you would think they would make Luigi's use his vacuum. Watch his FS have something to do with a Ghost, or be like Mario's except a green flame.
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If they do include luigi, they better "luigify" him a bit more.

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If they do include luigi, they better "luigify" him a bit more.

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YAY!!!!!!!!!! :edgy: I am happy now that I know that jigglypuff is in brawl, seriously jigglypuff is my favorite character and Lucario will be good as well.
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Today's update is Manaphy, a Pokéball Pokémon, which, when used, switches two characters around, e.g. if you were playing as Zelda and Donkey Kong, you're now the different way around for a while.
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This update also brought with it an interview, don't have time to go into details.
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The interview says about how making Brawl felt to Sakurai. Basically.
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Anyone heard anything on the supposed "starting roster"?
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Anyone heard anything on the supposed "starting roster"?

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Where is that from? Source please!
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Donald Serrot wrote:
Where is that from? Source please!


2ch originally. It also had a picture of the actual disc included. All in all, it looks believable - old unlockables will be unlockable again, Snake and Sonic are (like we knew), and the rest of them is confirmed on the Dojo.
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I'm not sure if it's real or a very good fake, but either way it is believable. The only doubt I have is that most characters from the same series aren't grouped together, as was the case in both previous games, but that could easily correct itself as other characters are unlocked (as it was in Melee, iirc).


In any case, it's estimated that 30 - 35 character spaces could fit on the screen, which is three - to - six on each side, one in each of the empty spaces in the bottom row and any other spare room around the current ones in the picture, so we may be able to tell just how many unlockables there are from that.
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Is the CD cover that belonged with the original roster image I posted, and a video here.
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Who are people here going to use mostly out of the starting line-up?
I'll be using:

Fox, Ike, Dedede, PTrainer and Metaknight.

And i'll be avoiding:

Olimar
Ice Climbers
Samus
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Blademaster, if I recall correctly, the character's faces "shrank" more on-screen, when the new ones appeared, so they could fit, in Melee... hmmm..........
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I'll be using all of them. I can't really see why people wouldn't use some characters - that way, you'll never know if they might have a playstyle you like.
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Topaz Fey wrote:
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Who are people here going to use mostly out of the starting line-up?
I'll be using:

Fox, Ike, Dedede, PTrainer and Metaknight.

And i'll be avoiding:

Olimar
Ice Climbers
Samus
Diddy

Out of this line up, Kirby, Olmar, or Metaknight until I get more.

Edit: The question was mostly. I'll use all of them too. How else will I get 100%!
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Tinker wrote:
I'll be using all of them. I can't really see why people wouldn't use some characters - that way, you'll never know if they might have a playstyle you like.

I'm definetely avoiding Olimar.
Urrrrrg. You have to dig up Pikmin to be able to attack, they run away after a while, they can be killed, If you have 1-2 pikmin, Pikmin Chain wil be useless.

The only good thing I think Olimar will have is the fact his Final Smash is good.

I'll only be him if i'm literally forced to, like in Subspace.
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Topaz Fey wrote:
Tinker wrote:
I'll be using all of them. I can't really see why people wouldn't use some characters - that way, you'll never know if they might have a playstyle you like.

I'm definetely avoiding Olimar.
Urrrrrg. You have to dig up Pikmin to be able to attack, they run away after a while, they can be killed, If you have 1-2 pikmin, Pikmin Chain wil be useless.

The only good thing I think Olimar will have is the fact his Final Smash is good.

I'll only be him if i'm literally forced to, like in Subspace.


You're already convicting a character no-one has even played yet. There's no guarantee that he'll be bad - it's even more likely that he's on about equal footing with everyone else.
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You'll be forced to anyways, Topaz Fey! Or do you now WANT to unlock everything in the game?

Because lets face it: They'll find a way to make the game perfection addicts use every character, for an overly large amount of time.......

But I'll probably TRY avoiding the Ice Climbers for a while... but I KNOW I'll be using them all...
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Tinker wrote:
You're already convicting a character no-one has even played yet. There's no guarantee that he'll be bad - it's even more likely that he's on about equal footing with everyone else.


I'm basing it on the website's "review" of him, and sort of basing him on the Ice Climbers. They were useless if you only had 1 right? I think Olimar's gonna be like that, except he'll be even more helpless.
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Wait, IC were BAD, but not useless! I mean, I can still win MATCHES with just one of them... but it's not EASY... lol.
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Olimar gets something no other character gets: fire-and-forget damage. If you've played the Pikmin games, you'll know that a Pikmin will latch on and continue attacking its target until either succumbs. Although Olimar supposedly can't perform Smash attacks without Pikmin, the Pikmin Throw will undoubtedly become his bread-and-butter damage dealer, as it is relatively hard to continually dodge attacks in this game. When you compare it to the "speedfighting" tactics employed in Melee, it's really the same thing: getting more hits in less time.

And what's more, Olimar has an infinite supply of these little bastards.
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True... but there's a few instances when he CAN'T get them:

1. a transparent surface (you can jump through these...)
2. Mid-Air (It'll make that Metroid Prime level a ***** to play in whenever it switches.

However, here's an idea: Recall the "Norfair" level: if Olimar makes it into the capsule, while everyone else is trying to avoid the Lava, Olimar can bring up all necessary Pikmin!
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