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Why does Phoenix always call psyche locks "psyche lock?"

Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:21 am

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As in singular. This has just bugged me for the longest time.

Re: Why does Phoenix always call psyche locks "psyche lock?"

Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:54 am

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*in my best authoritative voice* :P

EDIT: [deleted; see latest post for the updated definition]

Or, to put it simply: the psyche-lock is the whole thing, chains and all; not the mini-locks. :)

Does we even do these things anymore?

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Re: Why does Phoenix always call psyche locks "psyche lock?"

Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:34 am

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At least he doesn't call them psycho-locks, like Edgeworth. It is a funny way of putting it, though.

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Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:07 pm

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Psycho-Lock was the Japanese name for them.

And remember, psyche is pronounced sy-kee, like the key to open the lock. *shot* Don't make the same mistake I did for all of JFA and pronounce it psych!

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Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:25 pm

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Great explanation of the workings of psyche-locks, Asura! That's pretty much how I understood it. Though I think the term 'psyche-lock' can be used both for the whole phenomenon and the locks themselves. But the theory/idea that it depends all on the person guarding the secret makes sense to me. You wouldn't even necessarily need to present evidence - if you can convince someone to give up their secret without proof, the locks should poof just as effectively!

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Re: Why does Phoenix always call psyche locks "psyche lock?"

Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:25 pm

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Quizer wrote:

I think the term 'psyche-lock' can be used both for the whole phenomenon and the locks themselves.

You can do, but it makes it a lot more confusing to define, so I decided against it. :P

Either way, it still makes sense for Phoenix to refer to a "psyche-lock" in the singular sense and not the plural.

Updated my definition slightly (grammar correction and extra bits :P):

Spoiler: Mild PW Arc Spoilers

Does we even do these things anymore?

Re: Why does Phoenix always call psyche locks "psyche lock?"

Mon Jan 28, 2008 4:01 pm

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You're right, using two different terms does make things less confusing. And yes, it makes sense for Phoenix to use the singular - that never seemed strange to me, but I also didn't think about it in as much detail as you seem to have... :will:

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Re: Why does Phoenix always call psyche locks "psyche lock?"

Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:37 am

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Its like the word moose.... it's still moose, even when it's plural. :D

Re: Why does Phoenix always call psyche locks "psyche lock?"

Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:12 pm

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It probably also has to do with the fact that nouns aren't pluralized in Japanese; that is, there's nothing like the plural "s" -- the noun is the same no matter whether there's one or many. So it's like moose, but with every noun.

So that might have been overlooked during translation.

Re: Why does Phoenix always call psyche locks "psyche lock?"

Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:35 pm

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I'd go with the translation theory.

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Re: Why does Phoenix always call psyche locks "psyche lock?"

Sun Feb 03, 2008 5:38 am

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Perhaps it's because oftentimes when referring to something thought-like or from the brain (could easily apply to the heart and inner emotions too) the word "psyche" has been used to refer to a persons thoughts and whatnot deriving from either psychological or psychic. I believe it is merely the shortened version of "psychic" or "psychological" because I've heard it used in that sense.

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