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So my question is, which is worse, defending a gulity man, or sending an innocent man to prison?
Personally, they're both so horrible and I can't decide which is worse
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It's essential that both sides do their best.
My reasoning for defense attorneys: whether the defendant is innocent or guilty doesn't matter. Everyone deserves a fair voice, i.e. someone arguing their case.
My reasoning for prosecutors: whether the defendant is guilty or innocent doesn't matter here either, the victim should still get a fair trial for the crimes that have been comitted against them.
It's about trying to have a fair trial. If you do your best and don't present false evidence or the likes, you should have nothing to feel guilty about.
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Both are nothing more than lies and injustice.
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Also, there's always vigilante justice, if that's your sort of thing.
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It is the court's job to pass the correct verdict, or else the situation gets worse.
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I really like the cases where they seem to almost work together.
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I really like the cases where they seem to almost work together.
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Most people that go to court are guilty. Mostly trials are just to decide how severe the punishment should be and whether or not the conditions of their arrest were constitutional.
But in the case of "Which is worse, a guilty person going free or an innocent person being convicted?" It's certainly an innocent person getting convicted. Both are bad, but I think the thought of an innocent person going to prison or sentenced to death is terrifying to me because it's so real. It could happen to anyone who might happen to be at the wrong place or the wrong time.
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Yeah sometimes I wonder if the lawyers feel bad if they know their clients are guilty but still choose to defend them anyway
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Has anyone here heard of "Due Process"?
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Especially considering that if you're defending a guilty person, as Phoenix would say, there is always a way to prove them guilty if they are.
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No, tails. I've never heard of that. Could you tell me? ^_^;
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Especially considering that if you're defending a guilty person, as Phoenix would say, there is always a way to prove them guilty if they are.
Heck, depends.
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But let's not forget that no defendant is "guilty" until the judge reads the sentence. That's the whole point behind the legal system. Sure as a lawyer you might suspect that your client comitted the crime, but what if you're wrong? Is it less ethical to defend a man you think is guilty than it is to condemn a man you think is guilty? Either way, a defense lawyer is not a judge, and they shouldn't depend on themselves to make those decisions before the trial even happens.
Look at 1-5 for instance. In that case Lana had already confessed. If Phoenix had taken her at her word and let her get convicted, the truth would have never come out. It's like Edgeworth said in 2-4: all an attorney can do is fight. That's why (in the states at least?) a defense attorney "throwing the case" because they think their client is guilty is grounds for disbarment.
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I mean, if you defend a guilty man, and get him declared not guilty, wouldn't you have to get an innocent main declared guilty to do so?
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No, not in the real world, and presumably, not in the AAverse, once the legal system has been reformed.
Getting someone declared not guilty in the real world is simply a matter of showing the prosecution didn't prove your client did it. There is no requirement that the real criminal be found. The trail is just to determine if the person who's been accused did it, not to figure out who did, if they didn't. Though presenting an alternate suspect is a common tactic for that, you don't actually need to prove the alternate suspect did it. Or even that there's enough evidence to arrest them, let alone convict.
Hell, in theory, even in the AAverse, that's the case - it's just the burden of proof is reversed from that of the current set up in most (non-corrupt) real-world legal systems*. The problem is the courts won't except anything other than proof someone else did it as proof that your client didn't.
Said real-world legal systems are, in fact, set up on the premise that it's worse to convict an innocent man than to let a guilty man go.
* There no doubt are systems that honestly try to get the truth while putting the burden of proof on the defence...I just don't know of any, at least in enough detail to know that they're like that.
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