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Excuse me? Did I say attorneys and prosecutors were allowed to use fingerprint dust, or create plaster footprints? No I did not.
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But :edgy: have money, so he could pay an army of detectives.
Anyway, I still don't trust the rumor- Too many contradictions. And zero Evidence--
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Excuse me? Did I say attorneys and prosecutors were allowed to use fingerprint dust, or create plaster footprints? No I did not.


Uh, I think you misunderstood me. :uh: I meant, since PW-land stuff doesn't follow real-world logic, the prosecution (like the defense) would do things they obviously wouldn't do in real life...including interviewing people. That's all I meant.
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I just don't see how Edgeworth would do all of that without a trial.

Unless he was made into an police officer or detective. With Gumshoe as his mentor. But I doubt it.
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Gyakuten can be roughly translated into comeback or turnabout. Judging from the project's name, it would be a non-court related spin-off thing.


Soooo... What this could mean is that it may be a Cop game, where you solve the crimes on the street instead of in the court? And Edgeworth and Gumshoe are like the two detectives from Miami Vice or something. Like a buddy, buddy cop show? Eh... :meekins:
(Not saying it is, just a speculation)
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Gyakuten can be roughly translated into comeback or turnabout. Judging from the project's name, it would be a non-court related spin-off thing.


Soooo... What this could mean is that it may be a Cop game, where you solve the crimes on the street instead of in the court? And Edgeworth and Gumshoe are like the two detectives from Miami Vice or something. Like a buddy, buddy cop show? Eh... :meekins:
(Not saying it is, just a speculation)


Not saying it will be. I'm just saying that NGNS has to be something else.
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I just don't see how Edgeworth would do all of that without a trial.

Unless he was made into an police officer or detective. With Gumshoe as his mentor. But I doubt it.


Oh, that's what you meant. No, I think this game is actually going to have court proceedings. It has to.
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Yeah, what would a Prosecutor be if he doesn't prosecute in court?

I'm sure there's a court involved here somewhere.
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Super Judge Bro. wrote:
I just don't see how Edgeworth would do all of that without a trial.

Unless he was made into an police officer or detective. With Gumshoe as his mentor. But I doubt it.


Oh, that's what you meant. No, I think this game is actually going to have court proceedings. It has to.


If it simply must, there is no way that this spin-off is NGNS. That is what I had been saying all along.
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Super Judge Bro. wrote:
Wait a darn moment.

Saiban can be roughly translated into court or trial, a game where you play as a prosecutor and prosecute in court.... means you prosecute in court. Gyakuten can be roughly translated into comeback or turnabout. Judging from the project's name, it would be a non-court related spin-off thing.

Ugh.

Ah, but what if we've been looking at NGNS too literally? If you're thinking of it as a direct translation, "New Gyakuten NOT Saiban" would indicate this has nothing to do with court. However, as the game brought up here is apparently called "Gyakuten Kenji", then we could assume that the "not saiban" part is is in reference to the series' title itself, and not a direct statement to be taken literally.


It's just a guess, but it does explain it.
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Wait a darn moment.

Saiban can be roughly translated into court or trial, a game where you play as a prosecutor and prosecute in court.... means you prosecute in court. Gyakuten can be roughly translated into comeback or turnabout. Judging from the project's name, it would be a non-court related spin-off thing.

Ugh.

Ah, but what if we've been looking at NGNS too literally? If you're thinking of it as a direct translation, "New Gyakuten NOT Saiban" would indicate this has nothing to do with court. However, as the game brought up here is apparently called "Gyakuten Kenji", then we could assume that the "not saiban" part is is in reference to the series' title itself, and not a direct statement to be taken literally.


It's just a guess, but it does explain it.


...makes sense.
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Maybe a title like "Mitsurugi Gyakuten" meant that it's not turnabout courtroom, but turnabout Edgeworth.

Or something like that.
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Blademaster_Orca wrote:
Ah, but what if we've been looking at NGNS too literally? If you're thinking of it as a direct translation, "New Gyakuten NOT Saiban" would indicate this has nothing to do with court. However, as the game brought up here is apparently called "Gyakuten Kenji", then we could assume that the "not saiban" part is is in reference to the series' title itself, and not a direct statement to be taken literally.


It's just a guess, but it does explain it.


So why the hell does "NOT" come into place? It makes no sense if it's used just to make a reference to a new GS. If I wanted to make a reference about something that does involve 'Saiban', I wouldn't put NOT right beside it.
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As phony as this news sounds, it's probable - in the very slightest sense - that a prosecutor game could theoretically work. Like Holy Hell said, you would be working against the criminal (and his attorney) to put them in the slammer. Still, a rumor is a rumor no matter how widespread it is; just as a possibility is merely a possibility. Without evidence, it's meaningless. We'll just have to wait this one out. By the way, when is the NGNS announcement suppose to take place?
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NGNS debate aside.......I actually kinda hope that this turns out to be a rumor and nothing more. :edgeworth:

I dunno, I guess I just don't see what else we could gain from seeing more of Edgeworth. He hit his epiphany already, and resolved all of his issues. I guess you could play as him in his younger days before he met Phoenix in court, but then we'd all already know where it leads eventually. It seems like I'm in the minority in the sense that I didn't really like the Edgeworth section of 3-5...I appreciated the nod, but thanks to the situation it felt like you were just playing as Phoenix with an extra dab of sarcasm thrown into the script.

Plus, the sparse details of this game so far seem to indicate that they've worked out some new wrinkles for case investigations. If they've really been able to come up with that many improvements, why not just incorporate those gameplay elements into GS5? I'll be extremely disappointed if this game brings innovations to the table while GS5 remains mostly the same as previous games. I suppose that's the Capcom way, though: why innovate in an existing series when you can just make a spinoff franchise and continue to sell both?
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I dunno, I guess I just don't see what else we could gain from seeing more of Edgeworth. He hit his epiphany already, and resolved all of his issues. I guess you could play as him in his younger days before he met Phoenix in court, but then we'd all already know where it leads eventually. It seems like I'm in the minority in the sense that I didn't really like the Edgeworth section of 3-5...I appreciated the nod, but thanks to the situation it felt like you were just playing as Phoenix with an extra dab of sarcasm thrown into the script.

ALthough it is true there isn't much to reveal about Edgeworth, i'm curious how the main characters of Ace Attourney will look at the third person perspective. There's a huge door of opportunities that has opened that wouldn't be possible through the Ace Attourney perspective. Besides, i think this'll prevent the franchise from getting old, if this rumor is true, I hope that the product will turn out to be of high quality,.
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OH Jeebus, I'm hot already....

Needless to say, I WANT THIS EVEN IF ITS JUST A RUMOR I WANT IT EITHER WAYYYY....
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OMFG :jazzron:

I really do hope this is real, playing as a prosecutor would be a new interesting gameplay. If it is real then I want it to take place from GS3-GS4. If it isn't real then.. :scratch: :sob: :payne:
...I'll probably just go insane...or more insane :gymshoe:
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Only concern I have with the game is how are they gonna stick Payne in there?
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Only concern I have with the game is how are they gonna stick Payne in there?


People think that Marvin Grossberg will be the guy you face in the tutorial trial. And that Payne would be there, being co-council. Ugh...
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Only concern I have with the game is how are they gonna stick Payne in there?


Mentor :moe-laugh:
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Only concern I have with the game is how are they gonna stick Payne in there?


Mentor :moe-laugh:


:objection:

No wai. If this takes place before the events of AA1, which I think it would if this thing exists, it must be Manfred von Karma. But Payne could still be co-council in the tutorial trial. :P
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Only concern I have with the game is how are they gonna stick Payne in there?


Mentor :moe-laugh:


:objection:

No wai. If this takes place before the events of AA1, which I think it would if this thing exists, it must be Manfred von Karma. But Payne could still be co-council in the tutorial trial. :P


Note the raucous laughter. :P Also, I don't think Payne could help Edgeworth really...Edgeworth in his first trial is more skilled than Payne ever was XD.

I'm still hoping this takes place between T&T and GS4...it would make more sense to look to the future (which they seem to be doing) as opposed to the past (plus, we already know what young Edgeworth was like, and he wasn't exactly a "hero" in those days; not good if we're going to be controlling him)

My money is on it being some time after 3-5, filling in the gaps.
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What gaps are there left to be filled anyway? :P
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...oh, I hope so.
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What gaps are there left to be filled anyway? :P


Spoiler: AA4
What Edgeworth was doing in the seven years Phoenix was panhandling and playing piano. :moe-laugh:

Also, what happened to Lana.

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Lana served her time for helping Gant hide evidence and rearrange the crime scene. And then she mysteriously died of unknown causes, just to annoy us players and to supposedly explain her disappearance. >_> By the way, the death thing was made up by me. I'm just annoyed today.

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Image<——if the news end being real, the smiley will be my only expression.

Well...fine, here is the original Japanese news I found in a local forum

逆転検事(DS/カプコン/発売日未定)
事件现场が舞台となる推理アドベンチャーゲーム
主人公は御剣怜侍、糸锯圭介
御剣を自分の手で操作して、事件现场に残された证拠やムジュンを探し出す
捜査や推理に関连した新システムが搭载されているらしい

……so,I have no idea where the name "perfect prosecutor" came from...the straight translation should be " Turn About Prosecutor"...maybe it would make more sense if you took "turn about" as "Gyakuten". When you compare the name 逆転検事 with the previous games 逆転裁判,it does become some kind of "New Gyakuten Not Saiban" (Gee, I'm too weak to collect myself now, sorry if it's hard to understand), but you know, rumors can't be spreaded if they are obviously fake.( it sounds obvious enough to me, though=_,=)
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Oh Jesus if they have Payne and Judge on this new map system I might just implode.
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*jawdrop*

I-it's real?!

The format of the game might take a while to get used to, but...

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YES!!! :keiko:

ETA: Wait... I don't see the courtroom in any of those screen shots. :eh?:
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Yeah, no court scenes? Oh no, what about the Judge? Someone please think of the Judge! But in any case, gladly we can still yell those infamous interjections.
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As I screamed in agony before, I cannot believe Capcon would make it so that Edgeworth actually moves around in a scene.

Judging by other screenshots, there is no court either. And I do see the words "New" and "Not"...... well then, I stand corrected. But already I do not like this game, for no true reason at all.
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