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Elise Deauxnim (potential spoilers)Topic%20Title
OfflineMedium-in-training Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:41 am
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I truly sorry if there's already a topic about her, but I have a question and a statement. *clears throat*

Spoiler: Elise
My friend and I have carefully inspected the clothes beneath her black robe and it looks exactly like attire that a Fey would wear. The necklace she is also wearing looks like Maya and Pearly's Magatama without the Magatama itself. The large white beads are the same. So I was wondering; could Maya have released that Elise was a Fey? My friend also said that the face of Misty Fey in the scroll looks like Elise's face (because that's who she is), but I don't think they look alike at all.


That concludes my peculiar reasoning.
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Re: Elise Deauxnim (potential spoilers)Topic%20Title
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Arn't her clothes just typical spirit medium clothes in the game or something? Wasn't Iris wearing similer clothes? She could have worn it because of where she was.
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Re: Elise Deauxnim (potential spoilers)Topic%20Title
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Yeah that's acolyte clothes.
Now, if she had a Magatama, it might have been a different story, but that's unlikely.
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Re: Elise Deauxnim (potential spoilers)Topic%20Title
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Spoiler: Elise
Yes, but Iris and Bikini were nuns there and Maya only wore the same one because she was undergoing training. Elise isn't a nun or was there for training, instead she was there to write a book (if I remember correctly). There are differences between Iris and Bikini's clothes and Elise's. If Elise was wearing the clothes because she was only "just there," than I think that she would wear what the others were wearing. Even Maya is wearing the same one as Iris and Bikini. Also (on a different note), we know that Maya had never met Elise (I believe); perphaps she would notice the similarity between the scroll and Elise. She might not have had a Magatama because Pearly might have sensed the spiritual power from it.
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Re: Elise Deauxnim (potential spoilers)Topic%20Title
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Yeah, but consider this: Don't all visitors wear acolyte clothes? I mean, they refer to the visitors as 'Mystic' so it could be just for the experience. They don't do that with Phoenix because he's a guy, but... Even if this isn't entirely true, would Maya really consider that, since she had just gotten there?
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Re: Elise Deauxnim (potential spoilers)Topic%20Title
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It's been bothering me that Pearly didn't have to wear the acolyte clothing, since she was a Fey, a visitor, and a female. I don't believe that Maya would actually consider Elise to be
Spoiler: Elise
her mother
, but this is Maya. Pearly, of course, would never know who Elise was besides the fact that she had read her books.
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Re: Elise Deauxnim (potential spoilers)Topic%20Title
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Isn't Pearl already wearing acolyte clothing?
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Re: Elise Deauxnim (potential spoilers)Topic%20Title
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Pearl's robes are acolyte clothing :] She just wears a different variation of them. This is most likely because she's a member of the Branch family. Branch Families usually have some kind of mark on them or a different variation of clothing so that they aren't mistaken for members of the Main Family.

Spoiler: Iris, 3-5
Iris is a member of the Branch Family, but she has left Kurain itself to live in Hazakurain Temple. So she wears their clothes and not Branch Family clothes similar to Pearl's. Her Magatama is probably just a charm too, as she can't use it herself due to her lack of spiritual powers.
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Re: Elise Deauxnim (potential spoilers)Topic%20Title
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WhiteElephant wrote:
Pearl's robes are acolyte clothing :] She just wears a different variation of them. This is most likely because she's a member of the Branch family. Branch Families usually have some kind of mark on them or a different variation of clothing so that they aren't mistaken for members of the Main Family.

Spoiler: Iris, 3-5
Iris is a member of the Branch Family, but she has left Kurain itself to live in Hazakurain Temple. So she wears their clothes and not Branch Family clothes similar to Pearl's. Her Magatama is probably just a charm too, as she can't use it herself due to her lack of spiritual powers.


But Iris's (And alternatively, Maya's at one point) clothes are different than Maya's main clothing, and Pearl's.
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Re: Elise Deauxnim (potential spoilers)Topic%20Title
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root_beer_junkie wrote:
I mean, they refer to the visitors as 'Mystic' so it could be just for the experience.


Firstly, this was a sort of lie that Bikini told Phoenix while he
Spoiler: ???
Was breaking her Psyche locks


She refers to Elise as Mystic for
Spoiler: ???
being the master


And I think she also refered to Maya, but not Pearl, which is odd, if you consider that Pearl is a Fey and Bikini, being a member of the branch family, should have recognized the clothing.
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Re: Elise Deauxnim (potential spoilers)Topic%20Title
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Yeah, but- again -would they consider that when they had just gotten there?
(Phoenix and friends, I mean.)
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Re: Elise Deauxnim (potential spoilers)Topic%20Title
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root_beer_junkie wrote:
Yeah, but- again -would they consider that when they had just gotten there?
(Phoenix and friends, I mean.)


I understand, but I was just assuming the possibility of it happening.
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Re: Elise Deauxnim (potential spoilers)Topic%20Title
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Ayasato-chan wrote:
root_beer_junkie wrote:
I mean, they refer to the visitors as 'Mystic' so it could be just for the experience.


Firstly, this was a sort of lie that Bikini told Phoenix while he
Spoiler: ???
Was breaking her Psyche locks


She refers to Elise as Mystic for
Spoiler: ???
being the master


Bikini knew her secret.
Spoiler: ???
Elise WAS the master. It was mentioned that Morgan Fey's successful attempt at murder caused Misty to come out of hiding. Elise's past was unknown, as well, and Misty was trying to create an 'alternate identity' for herself. It was what, 17 years after DL-6 and her disappearance that she was murdered? And using canon logic (from AJ, nontheless), we can safely assume that Misty Fey would be considered dead after 7 years in the eyes of the law had she disappeared for a long of amount of time. Oh yeah, but once Misty was 'dead' Mia would have been the master, moving down the line. Despite the fact that she abandoned 'training' for a career as a defense attorney, still, her powers were very strong and she clearly had the Fey blood. Mia was still wearing her magatama at the time too. As a charm, we don't know, but it proves that she didn't entirely throw away who she was. Her reason for becoming a lawyer proves that even further. It was when Mia was murdered in 1-2 that Maya was then the new Master. All Maya knew was that she was next in line. She knew nothing about her mother's condition after she left the family and disappeared, except for the fact that Maya could sense that she was still alive.


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