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He was unique at least, and T&T did a good job of what I've come to like about the PW series, trying seemingly unrelated cases together into one thread that you only fully understand when you get to the end, so by that proxy, he was important as well as a binding factor.
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: what have i done wrong???actually, godot, edgey, and klavier have something in common that i like about them. they look for the truth, not the 'guilty' verdict, unlike some crazy whip freak i know.
on the other hand, franzy is much cuter and way sexier than the other three,,LOL.XD
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Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
Godot didn't care about the truth. He cared about beating Phoenix.
Actually it was both.
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coffeeaddict wrote:
capcom just made some of the characters awfully stupid. it's sad. i forgot what case that is, but godot was actually helping phoenix, because he knows the truth. aha! i'll play pw3 again,,XD
The only time Godot seems to be helping Phoenix is after Dahlia starts to pin the blame on Maya and began claiming that she was dead. He might have done a truly crappy job of "protecting" her (the word is in quotes because I have trouble believing that someone who purposely puts another in danger just to save them is really protecting that person or deserves any kind of praise), but he didn't want the crime pinned on her (Remember that he tried to cover up the crime scene to make sure blame stayed off of Maya. He certainly had no intention of coming forward if he was worried that Maya might be blamed for it and he ended up asking Iris to take the blame for the crime he committed, so he wasn't really after the truth) nor did he believe or want anyone else to believe that she was dead (Especially since her being dead would mean that he had failed. Besides the whole "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" thing comes to mind). The hints continue after Dahlia is defeated because he did partially want to be caught by that point, but had he truly been out for just the truth then he would have admitted his crime instead of putting a half-dead nineteen year old who had just watched her mother murdered in front of her and had almost been killed herself on the stand so that she could be cross-examined. Godot loved to tell people to clean up their own messes, but he couldn't manage to follow his own advice in the slightest. And none of his actions were about the truth. His final act was about guilt and about still being unable to let his grudge against Phoenix go, so he dragged things out to the very end in completely disregard for Maya's well-being just to continue his petty battle with Phoenix.
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Heh, you're right though on several levels, the guy was...complicated. He was mostly powered on by Revenge, Whereas Klavier and (Eventually) Edgeworth, were both truth seekers.
So when we think about it, we have two truth seeking prosecutors, one Obsessed with revenge, one obsessed with perfection, one obsessed with Perfection AND revenge, and one that is obsessed with finally winning a case so he can avenge his lost hair?
The prosecutor's office needs to take a long hard look at their people man...
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So when we think about it, we have two truth seeking prosecutors, one Obsessed with revenge, one obsessed with perfection, one obsessed with Perfection AND revenge, and one that is obsessed with finally winning a case so he can avenge his lost hair?
I'm sorely tempted to sig that.
I thought that it was just Phoenix's bad luck that the prosecutors he faces tend to be the crazier ones. But maybe the entirety of the profession IS like that...brrrrrr.
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Godot didn't care about the truth. There are a few examples of this, but the best one is...
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Phoenix_Apollo wrote:
Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
Godot didn't care about the truth. He cared about beating Phoenix.
Actually it was both.
No, it wasn't.
3-2: Even though it was painfully obvious Atmey was the real killer, Godot refused Phoenix's request for further testimony to prove his guilt because they were "holding up" Mask*deMasque's trial.
3-3: THE JUDGE knew Furio was guilty. THE JUDGE KNEW. Yet Godot's all "Oh, no, you can't testify, you're the judge, sorry Phoenix you lose kthx."
3-5: Yeah, I don't even know where to begin here. Should I start with the fact that HE was the murderer, but instead of coming forward, he tried to prosecute an innocent girl for his crime? Or the way he allowed Dahlia the chance to testify against Maya, putting another innocent person in danger of being convicted for his murder? Or how about how even after it was proven PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE for Iris to be the killer, he objects with "Unless someone else is found guilty, the accused is still on trial. We can't let her walk until there is evidence that proves her innocence."
None of those actions seem to portray Godot as a truth-seeker to me.
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Zeon Twilight wrote:
Hmm, Mia Fey is not a Godot fan...which is Ironic if you think about it.
Oh, the irony! It burns like dihydrogen monoxide!
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Salutation Here wrote:
Zeon Twilight wrote:
So when we think about it, we have two truth seeking prosecutors, one Obsessed with revenge, one obsessed with perfection, one obsessed with Perfection AND revenge, and one that is obsessed with finally winning a case so he can avenge his lost hair?
I'm sorely tempted to sig that.
I thought that it was just Phoenix's bad luck that the prosecutors he faces tend to be the crazier ones. But maybe the entirety of the profession IS like that...brrrrrr.
Rock on, if you want to Sig it, Sig it.
Of course, on the other side...
For Defense Attorney's we've seen or heard about, We've got two clearly passionate ones (Phoenix and Mia), One kinda passionate one that's a little slow on the uptake (Apollo), One insane one (You know who) , one that just wants to prove innocence regardless of other issues, just to show off (That guy from DL-6) One with a coffee addiction, and of course, one who is entirely too concerned with certain conditions going on below his beltline to the posterior side
I'm not counting two people that have acted as Defense attorneys, because technically, they weren't, but you all know who I'm thinking of.
All in all, both sides of the coin are a little bit crazy sometimes.
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The more I think about it, the clearer it is why Phoenix and Apollo are necessary. It's because almost all prosecutors are insane, and all other defence attorneys are either incompetent or amoral. Or both.
Scary.
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Anyway, that's a firm point, but if paid Attorney's are the way they are, what do you think the State appointed ones must be like?
Ahem, anyway, we're derailing this topic
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Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
Phoenix_Apollo wrote:
Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
Godot didn't care about the truth. He cared about beating Phoenix.
Actually it was both.
No, it wasn't.
3-2: Even though it was painfully obvious Atmey was the real killer, Godot refused Phoenix's request for further testimony to prove his guilt because they were "holding up" Mask*deMasque's trial.
3-3: THE JUDGE knew Furio was guilty. THE JUDGE KNEW. Yet Godot's all "Oh, no, you can't testify, you're the judge, sorry Phoenix you lose kthx."
3-5: Yeah, I don't even know where to begin here. Should I start with the fact that HE was the murderer, but instead of coming forward, he tried to prosecute an innocent girl for his crime? Or the way he allowed Dahlia the chance to testify against Maya, putting another innocent person in danger of being convicted for his murder? Or how about how even after it was proven PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE for Iris to be the killer, he objects with "Unless someone else is found guilty, the accused is still on trial. We can't let her walk until there is evidence that proves her innocence."
None of those actions seem to portray Godot as a truth-seeker to me.
3-2: He KNEW that Ron was the thief. HE KNEW. That's why he did it.
3-3: There wasn't any real evidence connecting Furio to Faunix.
3-5: That last part is one of PW's rules, not Godot's. And again, to the earlier part, NO EVIDENCE EVEN LINKED HIM TO THE CRIME.
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3-3: I thought we were talking about Godot being concerned with the truth. Being nitpicky about the legal system to let someone who's clearly a murderer get away is, like, the complete opposite of caring about the truth.
3-5: See above.
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i think godot really wouldn't let maya get arrested, nor he would get iris convicted, i guess somehow he knew from the beginning that phoenix would find out the truth.
AND, he doesn't know that dahlia was pretending to be iris, that's when he started giving phoenix some hints(i.e. upside-down), because dahlia would stop at nothing to put the suspicion on maya. boy, i wonder what godot felt when he knew that the woman he hated was testifying right in front of him.
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If Godot refused to let Dahlia testify, what was she going to do? The fact that it was the woman he hated was the entire reason he put her on the stand; he wanted to blow her cover and rub her failure in her face in the middle of court for everyone to see. Making Dahlia suffer took priority over ensuring Maya's safety, let alone "finding" the truth.
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and, i don't agree with the 'godot's too cool to show emotion blah, blah', whoever stated that. he seems pretty much emo to me, don't you think?
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coffeeaddict wrote:
i replayed 3-5, so i'm pretty sure that godot was surprised that iris was dahlia. but i could be wrong. XD
and, i don't agree with the 'godot's too cool to show emotion blah, blah', whoever stated that. he seems pretty much emo to me, don't you think?
and, i don't agree with the 'godot's too cool to show emotion blah, blah', whoever stated that. he seems pretty much emo to me, don't you think?
Not to mention his clothes look a bit emoish
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