BE WARNED: JSA LAST CASE SPOILER AHEAD

This picture has kinda been bothering me for a while...since the moment I first saw it I noticed that some things were different from what you see when you go there after the murder.
I thought that it would be noticed further into the trial but it wasn`t, maybe it`s just the police`s fault for not being more careful with their examinations and just moving everything around ( ), but there is also one thing that is just wrong in it...I would tell you what I`m talking about but its funnier to see if you guess:




I can count at least three things that aren`t in their place but could have been moved by accident plus the one that couldn`t have been there...um, enought clues for now :b
The one that gets them first gets a cookie!

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1. There are too many glass pieces.
2. The chair is turned.
3. THERE IS NO LAMP in the crime photo
4. The table...with the juice...it's halfway across the room in the sprite version...That's impossible!
5. There's another armchair in the sprite!
6. The glass isn't reflected in the photo (but it's probably just the black and white)
7. The bottle is also slightly misplaced...

That's all I see for now...

Whoa...HUGE developer oversights...

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Last edited by Phoenix_Apollo on Tue May 20, 2008 2:19 am, edited 1 time in total.

The movement of the chair could have been caused when the body was removed from the room. But yeah, the lamp

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The table is even worse...

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You get the cookie, Phoenix_Apollo!
The "thing that is just wrong in it" was the bottle, it is just impossible for it to appear in the picture, even thought it was used as evidence in the trial.
There`s still one thing that you haven`t said yet thought...

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No plant thingy in the crime photo?

Well, there is a sofa that is kind of in between the round table and the guitar case. It would have to somehow show in the picture with the stabbed Juan, but it's not there.

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It's JFA BTW, not JSA.

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IS it just me, or is the mirror in the crime photo on the opposite wall as in the sprite version?
Oh. Wait. Never mind, I'm just an idiot.

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Umm...I don`t think it is supoused to be in the photo


That`s what makes it impossible for the bottle to be there, but it was already said by Apollo



I can`t belive I mixed that up AGAIN..

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Woah. I can't beleive I didn't catch that, the place looks totally off!

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A few LOT more guesses:

1. There are shards BEHIND the chair.
2. The tray is on the edge of the table in the scene, but toward the middle in the sprite.
3. The guitar case has more depth in the sprite than in the photo.
4. In said guitar case in the photo, the case makes it seem like the costume wouldn't fit.
5. The damn bottle itself is turned in the sprite to face Phoenix.
6. If I'm not mistaken, I think part of the picture on the wall should be in the crime photo.
7. There's a bar connecting the back legs to eachother, and the legs together on the side in the crime photo.
8. In the sprite, there's something under the chair, but it looks like the bandana. Why would it be there?
9. The guitar case is also misplaced. It seems to be a few feet away from the chair in the sprite, but it's only about a foot in the photo.
10. The wall in the crime photo is illogical. It'd be imposible for there to be another wall there (not the one behind the mirror piece, the other one that makes it look like the mirror was in the corner)
11. The case also looks to be moved away from the mirror somewhat. In the photo, the top seems to be resting against the mirror piece leg, but it can't touch the leg in the sprite.
12. Now it seems that the mirror is against the wall in the photo. But in the sprite, it looks either connected to the table and the wall, or connected to the wall but resting on the table as well.
13. The legs of the mirror piece differ between the photo and the sprite. In the sprite they're thicker, but thinner in the photo.
14. The frame of the mirror seems to have the same problem, but it could be a distance thing.
15. The base of the tomato juice glass in the sprite seems to be about, if not bigger, than the top, which isn't remotely true in the photo.
16. Shrink the base in the sprite, and there seems to be a distance problem between the two glasses as well.
17. The width of the tray seems to be slightly different, but ever so slightly between the photo/sprite.
18. Someone messed around with the pattern in the rug in the photo.
19. In the photo, the table has corners, in the sprite, it does not.
20. The bottle in the photo looks a little more like a wine glass than in the sprite (the area above the wrapper is shaped differently).
21. Even though I can't really tell in the photo, the table doesn't look slanted; unlike the sprite.
22. The little bit of decoration you can see of the chair on top seems different than the top of the sprite's.
23. The width of the the wood under the padding of the seat of the chair differs between the photo (wider) and sprite (thinner).



That's all I'll look for right now.

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woha! :O
"12. Now it seems that the mirror is against the wall in the photo. But in the sprite, it looks either connected to the table and the wall, or connected to the wall but resting on the table as well."
This was the one I was talking about.

You would certainly make a better detective than Gumshoe.. ( )

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True, but who knows? Maybe he might have gotten some of that as well, given the chance and specific objection objective.

It could also just be connected to the table, or resting on both, but I doubt the latter.

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Um...that thing about the bottle being in the photo? I'm pretty sure they try to take photos before they remove any evidence from the crime scene. Gumshoe and forensics had already cleared the place before Phoenix even got a chance to look in.

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But why would a chair be where the table was...or why would the mirror be like that? Why would the chair look different?

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I think there might be... if you look behind Juan's body there's a sort of wooden pole (yeah, dunno how else to describe it ) which could be a lamp stand.
Anyway... yeah, big oversights there.

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I see something like a pole, but where's the rest of it?

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^Off the edge of the picture?

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You know, playing 2-4 again, I compared the two pictures in the game and found ANOTHER contradiction:

1. In the photo, the case is too small for a guitar, in fact it looks more like a violin case or a case for a fiddle. It's find im the sprite.

And looking at them now, here's another!:

2. The seat of the chair in the sprite looks like it's longer than in the photo, thus:
3. making the legs farther apart in the sprite as well.

That brings the total record to 33, I believe.

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First thing i noticed was chair had been turned and that there was no lamp, i wasnt sure about the bottle of sauce or the other armchair i just thought it was out of view

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I've noticed a lot of unrealistic things in this series (duh) and here's another one.

Juan's body would not be able to 'sit' in that chair. Once he is dead, he would just slump out of the chair. Not only that, but when Rigor Mortis sets in, his body would be stuck in that position and would be rather difficult to fix.

I also just noticed that in the first picture, there are bars connecting the legs of the chair but not in the second picture.

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