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C'mon, there should be more love for Terry!

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After all, he is the one who killed himself just for Dahlia, and then Dahlia got off scot free.


It just goes to show you how honorable and awesome he is.

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Terry was being used by Dahlia-you could just tell. Like Celeste Inpax was being used by Matt. Like, first of all, I think Dahlia knew that Terry would drink the bottle anyways. She knew of the murder plot, since she knew Valerie arranged to meet with him at Dusky Bridge. So, she kills Valerie before Terry comes, and is already on the bridge. Now, in the fake kidnapping, she purposly jumped off the bridge just to keep the millions to herself. When her identity was revealed at the end and she was accused of killing Valerie and Terry was testifying, it's no wonder he felt that he betrayed her. Because he was testifying, and that was bad for Dahlia, even if he said that it wasn't Dahlia who he met on the bridge. Mia even proved Dahlia was on the bridge instead of Valerie. I just feel bad for Terry... :larry:

So...discuss him, Fawles fans!
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I freakin' LOVE Terry Fawles! He's just so adorable! Like when his eyes get all watery, he looks like a little kid. Makes me go mawwww...
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I cried like a baby in the end of 3-4.

Terry was so adorable! D: But what's with the way he talks? Is he mentally retarted or is that just some kind of accent..?
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True, he isn't all that bright...
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Well, he still is adorable, so I guess that makes up for it, right? :D
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I remember when I first saw him gnawing on that ball & chain, I was like "WAHH! WTF??" Kinda like how Mia reacted.

But then I felt reeeeally bad for him when she said that no one had taken his case...then I was like "Aww, he's cute and sweet and stuff."

And at the end I teared up. Didn't think I would, but I did.

Terry didn't deserve anything that happened to him.

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I love Terry.. the ending made me feel like utter crap and hatred towards Dahlia.

One question I had though: how in the world did Terry manage to pull off being a tutor? ^^;; If I was looking for a tutor for my daughter, I would've made sure they could at least speak properly...
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It's probably just an accent, or maybe that's what he becomes after 5 years in prison? awww :larry:

I was spoiled about the ending, so the in whole episode I felt sorry for Terry all the time :larry: he trusts Dahlia too much, but that's exactly why Dahlia used him in the first place... Terry doesn't deserve any of that. :larry:
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Speaking of Terry's speech patterns, I found that in the first half of the case that Terry's english was fine apart from "I din't do nuttin'", but in the second half that his english went very poor and started shortening or missing a lot of words. Did anyone else notice this?
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...I guess I'm worse than everyone, since I didn't notice or just forgot that his grammar is bad. The only strange english I could remember is only that "I didn't do nuttin'" and several parts of his testimony...
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I just found a script and it seems I was right. Here's a few lines to prove my point
first meeting with fawles in the lobby "They sentenced me to death 5 years ago! But I was tricked I tell you!" "that woman! She lied in her testimony!... thats why I got the death penalty!"
"she was alive when I left! she was alive! it-it's true!" A lot of explanation marks but competant english and grammar.
second meeting in the lobby "Wrong! No protect sister! Valerie betray me! Betray us!" "Dahlia's family rich. Jewelry business. We get one jewel...That's what we thought... Me and Dahlia wrote kidnap note. We send to her dad. Asked for 2 million dollar diamond. Tell him make exchange on Dusky Bridge. ...We tell him Valerie make transfer 'cause she new detective."
just ugh, seems that talking about Dahlia seems to make him talk like Tarzan or something.
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The overbearing stress probably caused the speech problems in his speech. (I know, it's redundant, right?)

This also happened in the "kidnapping scene" ie:

"Shut up! I...I kill her!"

Anyway, I love Terry!
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About Terry's speech - although this might just be jumping to conclusions, I got the impression that he was mentally challenged to some extent. One of Mia's first lines about him was that he had a simple, childlike voice or something like that. I dunno, but that's just what I always thought. I really doubt it was caused by being in prison or something like that, and the only other explanations I see is that he's either a poor speaker or that he can't speak well under stress (or that he's just not intelligent).

I wonder if his dialogue in the Japanese script was any different? Croik once commented that she thought he came across as less caveman-y in the original but she wasn't sure.
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I assumed the speech thing was because
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b) None too bright

I doubt you could get a speech impediment from a few years in jail, but sice he was all alone...
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Ugh I hate that demon girl with red hair. She irks me. I didn't really like him and all, but I felt bad for him because I hated that demon girl. :chinami: <_<;
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Terry Fawls was one of my favorite characters in the game, and I actually wanted to take Daliah down more for him than for Maya or Phoenix.
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NinjasVsPirates wrote:
Terry Fawles was one of my favorite characters in the game, and I actually wanted to take Daliah down more for him than for Maya or Phoenix.


(/FIXED)

Anyway, I totally agree with you there. That reason alone made Terry one of my favorite characters.
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Phoenix_Apollo wrote:
NinjasVsPirates wrote:
Terry Fawles was one of my favorite characters in the game, and I actually wanted to take Dahlia down more for him than for Maya or Phoenix.


(/FIXED)

Anyway, I totally agree with you there. That reason alone made Terry one of my favorite characters.

Refixed. :phoenix: And I also agree.
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I loved Terry, and I was tearing up at the end of 3-4! I love the art of him in this thread also!
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It's been a long time since I played 3-4 in Japanese, but I really don't remember Terry sounding quite so challenged in the original. Don't really have the time or inclination to go check XD;;

To be honest, I've never had sympathy for Terry. I don't know if the original or the localization really intended for you think of him as mentally challenged, but I never got that impression. So when you put that aside, you have a 20 year old man who was planning to elope with his 14 year old "student."

I guess you'd have believe he was mentally challenged not to find that at least a little creepy (or even REALLY creepy). Also, illegal.

Of course, he didn't deserve what happened to him by any stretch of the imagination. But even if Valerie had told the truth from the start, he was still guilty of trying to con a man out of millions of dollars. I find it hard to believe he didn't at least understand that faking a kidnapping and then staging a ransom collection is wrong: he was able to describe the plan to Mia well enough.

"Dahlia tricked him" can only work as an excuse for so many things... B:
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Speaking of Terry's speech patterns, I found that in the first half of the case that Terry's english was fine apart from "I din't do nuttin'", but in the second half that his english went very poor and started shortening or missing a lot of words. Did anyone else notice this?


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I'm pretty sure it's from the poison he drank. He's that sensitive to it.

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MikeMeekins wrote:
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Speaking of Terry's speech patterns, I found that in the first half of the case that Terry's english was fine apart from "I din't do nuttin'", but in the second half that his english went very poor and started shortening or missing a lot of words. Did anyone else notice this?


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I'm pretty sure it's from the poison he drank. He's that sensitive to it.

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Except he didn't drink it until right before his testimony. So no.

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Spoiler:
Actually, it's implied he took it on the stand.

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......................................................

Yes, that would be right before giving his testimony.

I swear, I'm starting to think you just like responding to me for the hell of it. :yuusaku:
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Croik wrote:
It's been a long time since I played 3-4 in Japanese, but I really don't remember Terry sounding quite so challenged in the original. Don't really have the time or inclination to go check XD;;

To be honest, I've never had sympathy for Terry. I don't know if the original or the localization really intended for you think of him as mentally challenged, but I never got that impression. So when you put that aside, you have a 20 year old man who was planning to elope with his 14 year old "student."

I guess you'd have believe he was mentally challenged not to find that at least a little creepy (or even REALLY creepy). Also, illegal.

Of course, he didn't deserve what happened to him by any stretch of the imagination. But even if Valerie had told the truth from the start, he was still guilty of trying to con a man out of millions of dollars. I find it hard to believe he didn't at least understand that faking a kidnapping and then staging a ransom collection is wrong: he was able to describe the plan to Mia well enough.

"Dahlia tricked him" can only work as an excuse for so many things... B:


You can't forget just how Manipulative Dahlia is, though. It doesn't account for everything, but it does explain a lot.
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Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
MikeMeekins wrote:
nose wrote:
Speaking of Terry's speech patterns, I found that in the first half of the case that Terry's english was fine apart from "I din't do nuttin'", but in the second half that his english went very poor and started shortening or missing a lot of words. Did anyone else notice this?


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I'm pretty sure it's from the poison he drank. He's that sensitive to it.

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Except he didn't drink it until right before his testimony. So no.


I used a game guide for it, so I wouldn't know all of these small details.
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Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
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Yes, that would be right before giving his testimony.

I swear, I'm starting to think you just like responding to me for the hell of it. :yuusaku:


Actually, I misread your post. Sorry.
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