Dynamic between Gumshoe and Edgeworth (SPOILERS all games)
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Well, the only time we really see Edgeworth's point of view is 3-5, in which he thinks of Gumshoe as being impossible to get rid of like "gum on your shoe." Now that there's going to be a game featuring the two, do you think there's a specifc incident that triggered this, or is it the general annoyed factor at having him seemingly work on (and bungle) every case that Edgeworth has prosecuted where Wright is the defense attorney (1-2, 1-3, and 1-5 to an extent).
But, then there's the sympathy factor. I'm rereading the script for 3-5, and if you present the Magmatama to Gumshoe, he tries to eat it. Edgeworth wonders: (Nngh... Maybe his salary has been cut just a little too much...?). That isn't necessarily sympathy but maybe he empathsizes with his constant salary gnashing. After 2-4 Edgeworth talks to the chief and gets Gumshoe rehired.
Personally I think most of it is in good spirits, nothing really mean or humiliating except in court when the stakes are high.
Also, rereading the script, man, there is just so much awesome dialogue between the two. "Well, I suppose it takes a super-duper kind of dumb to miss a clue like this." (after finding the blackmail letter) - good one, Edgey. I'm really looking forward to playing this game whenever it comes out stateside.
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Also because there's this thing called Maggey.
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Also, I never saw that eating thing... I'm in 3-3 on my replay, so I'll check soon! ^^
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Uhh. Right. Well, everyone interprets a happening differently, and that's that amirite? Just, what the original poster said happens to hit exactly what I think is true.
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Aetheryn wrote:
What's this? No Maggey/Gumshoe/Edgeworth? Blasphemy!
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hbdragon88 wrote:
Also, rereading the script, man, there is just so much awesome dialogue between the two. "Well, I suppose it takes a super-duper kind of dumb to miss a clue like this." (after finding the blackmail letter) - good one, Edgey. I'm really looking forward to playing this game whenever it comes out stateside.
They are so hilarious together!! xD This is one of my favourite dialogues between the prosecutor and the detective...
Present Iris' profile...you're in for a laugh...
Gumshoe: Well, everyone knows that you are quite popular with the ladies, sir... Maybe she's an old girlfriend you dumped somewhere along the way or something...?
Edgeworth: D-Detective! Where did you hear such nonsense from!?
Gumshoe: I didn't hear it from anyone. It's just sorta how I imagine you to be... sir.
Oh Gumshoe...xDDD
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And then you have the intelligent and angry one: 
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GumshoeFan5000 wrote:
Its the Ren and Stimpy chemistry at work; You have the loveable oaf: And then you have the intelligent and angry one:
And then you have the intelligent and angry one: Best comparison ever. <3 this post
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GumshoeFan5000 wrote:
Its the Ren and Stimpy chemistry at work; You have the loveable oaf: And then you have the intelligent and angry one:
And then you have the intelligent and angry one: "It's Pinky and the Brain, one is a genuis, the other's insane"
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Azure Flame wrote:
GumshoeFan5000 wrote:
Its the Ren and Stimpy chemistry at work; You have the loveable oaf: And then you have the intelligent and angry one:
And then you have the intelligent and angry one: "It's Pinky and the Brain, one is a genuis, the other's insane"
"Are you pondering what I'm pondering, Gumshoe?" "I think so, sir, but where do we get the monkey from?"I think that Gumshoe is just really in debt to Edgeworth, and Gumshoe just grew on Edgy after working with him for awhile. I think that Gumshoe nor Edgeworth would work as well as they do without each other, though. :3
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Zarkanorf wrote:
I think that Gumshoe is just really in debt to Edgeworth, and Gumshoe just grew on Edgy after working with him for awhile. I think that Gumshoe nor Edgeworth would work as well as they do without each other, though. :3
Haha, no.
Dick himself stated that he trusts Miles, and that he has a deep, trusting relationship with him. Dodgy as all hell, but it's what he said.
Not poppycock.
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.Storm Parakaitz wrote:
Dick himself stated that he trusts Miles, and that he has a deep, thrusting relationship with him. Dodgy as all hell, but it's what he said.
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Tinker wrote:
I'd say he loves him like a little brother the older, more clever one.
Also because there's this thing called Maggey.
Also because there's this thing called Maggey.
Yeah I think it's like this.
Gumshoe looks at Edgey like an older brother.
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Tinker wrote:
Wow, Mr. Tinker...
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And I quote:
Marshmello wrote:
Seriously: Gumshoe is Edgey's yes man. He's probably the person he spends the most time around, even if it is a professional relationship. Gumshoe was the only one who knew that Edgey wasn't dead in JFA, and was obviously in contact with him (if not for the entire time, at least near the end). I've sort of imagined Gumshoe as being one of the people, if not the person, who knows Edgeworth the best. They have a lot of faith in each other, and I'm suspicious as to what sort of deep shit Edgey had to drag him out of for Gumshoe to be his stalker to care about him so much.
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They also mentioned in 1-5 how the prosecution has to have complete trust in the police department and all that jazz, and Edgey believes in that 100%. I think it's because of that trust that Gumshoe has the utmost respect for him. Not to mention that even though he's cut his pay several times, he's stuck up for him and saved his job too.
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The Edgeworth/Gumshoe relationship is one of the sweetest relationships in the entire series. I think Edgeworth cares about Gumshoe a lot more than he usually shows, he just has trouble breaking through the boss-employee boundary. If you present Gumshoe's profile to Edgeworth in the latter half of 3-5, he says that he bought Gumshoe some instant noodles earlier that day. Of course, as Nick swiftly points out, he could have just raised his salary, but we know Edgeworth struggles with stuff like that. Not to mention that Edgeworth gets Gumshoe reinstated after he's fired in 2-4, and Gumshoe is the one Edgeworth chose to wish a happy new year to at the end of 1-4.
I think Clarissa Gavin is right, Gumshoe doesn't care about the salary cuts as long as he has validation from Edgeworth. Also, note that Gumshoe expressed no such feelings about either of the other main prosecutors he worked with.
I think Clarissa Gavin is right, Gumshoe doesn't care about the salary cuts as long as he has validation from Edgeworth. Also, note that Gumshoe expressed no such feelings about either of the other main prosecutors he worked with.
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And it seems like we can't go anywhere with this thread without bringing up the immortal "WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOP!" It really was precious in the credits when Gumshoe said that Edgey had wished him a happy New Year, and it creates such a clear image in your head of Edgeworth standing on Gumshoe's doorstep cardboard-box-step, forcing himself to do it. I think he realized that maybe he wasn't giving Gumshoe the credit he deserved (the original whoop was meant to be a thank you, so I always thought that the "WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP! DECTECTIVE GUMSHOOOOOOOOOOOOE!" was also, in Edgey's awkward way, a form of thanks).
You're right: Gumshoe definitely isn't as close to Franziska or Godot as he is Edgeworth. Gumshoe quite often mentions the 'bond of trust' between the police department and the prosecutor's office, but I think what he's really referring to is his relationship with Edgeworth.
And I feel the same, polkadot. Edgey and Gumshoe are great together, but I feel that just because they have a lot of trust and respect for each other doesn't automatically make it a romance. Even if Gumshoe did somehow harbour those sort of feelings towards Edgeworth, I don't think he would act on them because he would know what it would do to their relationship.
You're right: Gumshoe definitely isn't as close to Franziska or Godot as he is Edgeworth. Gumshoe quite often mentions the 'bond of trust' between the police department and the prosecutor's office, but I think what he's really referring to is his relationship with Edgeworth.
And I feel the same, polkadot. Edgey and Gumshoe are great together, but I feel that just because they have a lot of trust and respect for each other doesn't automatically make it a romance. Even if Gumshoe did somehow harbour those sort of feelings towards Edgeworth, I don't think he would act on them because he would know what it would do to their relationship.
I apologize for the copypasta, but we had a good long discussion in the Edgeworth fanthread about this, and I might as well give the highlights.
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Marshmello wrote:
"The pasta restaurant scene"? Could you elaborate please? I haven't played the first game in a while.
It's actually from the third game. During 3-5, Edgey buys Gumshoe some dinner at a nearby pasta resturant. Gumshoe started to cry when he got extra cheese on his pasta, according to Edgeworth.
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I was assuming it was from the first game because of the whole 'Wet Noodle' thing.Those two really are great together.
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Anyone who sees Phoenix and Maya for the first time, as they're investigating an area and making quips to each other, would sort of assume that Phoenix is constantly trying to get rid of Maya and doesn't like her much. But knowing them more closely would show that it's all sort of a mutual thing, and that they "hate to love" in a way.
Edgeworth and Gumshoe are sort of the same way. Edgeworth doesn't admit to liking Gumshoe, but doesn't really know what he'd do if he were without him.
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Marshmello wrote:
That's so sweet I was assuming it was from the first game because of the whole 'Wet Noodle' thing.
Those two really are great together.
I was assuming it was from the first game because of the whole 'Wet Noodle' thing.Those two really are great together.
I assume you haven't imported the game yet, then...
Anyway, yeah, it was a nice little extra in that case. I guess all of those mentions of ramen really got to Edgey after a while...
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And I agree with Katana. Maya is to Phoenix as Gumshoe is to Edgeworth (and for the record, I don't support either pairing). I think Miles would be a bit lost without Gumshoe, even though Gumshoe tends to hinder things more than help them.
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Marshmello wrote:
But Gumshoe tells Edgey that he got tired of ramen. It wasn't really that funny, but I laughed when Edgeworth said, "Weren't you really into noodles last year?"
And I agree with Katana. Maya is to Phoenix as Gumshoe is to Edgeworth (and for the record, I don't support either pairing). I think Miles would be a bit lost without Gumshoe, even though Gumshoe tends to hinder things more than help them.
And I agree with Katana. Maya is to Phoenix as Gumshoe is to Edgeworth (and for the record, I don't support either pairing). I think Miles would be a bit lost without Gumshoe, even though Gumshoe tends to hinder things more than help them.
He was still poor though...I don't think it mattered at that point.
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Also because there's this thing called Maggey.
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DeMatador wrote:
...Is it just me or every single male character in the Ace Attorney series has a gay pairing? I mean, EdgeworthXGumshoe?!? COME ON! That's like mixing Asmstrong with the female gender!
Yup, pretty much.
I don't support EdgeyXGumshoe though. Gummy has Maggey after all. ^_^
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crouton wrote:
DeMatador wrote:
...Is it just me or every single male character in the Ace Attorney series has a gay pairing? I mean, EdgeworthXGumshoe?!? COME ON! That's like mixing Asmstrong with the female gender!
Yup, pretty much.
I don't support EdgeyXGumshoe though. Gummy has Maggey after all. ^_^
You're forgetting that Maggey has horrible luck. Gumshow will probably run away once they attempt to make the one and only Maggey Gumshoe II.
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You're forgetting that Maggey has horrible luck. Gumshow will probably run away once they attempt to make the one and only Maggey Gumshoe II.
This is true.
I do like the Edgeworth and Gumshoe comedy dynamic, though.
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Edgey x Oldbag and Gumshoe
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Mia x Maya (You can tell it's more than sisterly love.)
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