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Does anyone else think the small walking sprite animations, and background art look a bit sub-par?
Even though Capcom confirmed it, I must admit I can't help but get this feeling of shananigans.

This game...this concept....it just seems so unreal. Like something a fan would think of. Not in a million years did I think a game like this would come out...yet...

Its like if they remade FFVII as a special version where you play the whole game as Sephiroth from his perspective. Fans would crap themselves...

I almost crapped myself when I first read about this game...
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Well, the images may be low qual, but the game itself is real.

Edit: Might be due to the fact the game isn't finished yet.

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Not to mention that we're looking at images of a magazine, that further contains images of a game that is in it's production phase no less.

It's kinda hard to expect much there.
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I kind of agree. The walking sprites (though not so much the background) do look kind of subpar, but I'm not that bothered. I don't really play AA/PP games for graphics.
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I think it's way too early to be worrying about quality. Not only because it's still fairly early in development, but we haven't even seen video of the game in action, so we don't even have anything concrete to judge quality on yet. We barely have any idea about it beyond the basic outline, after all.
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Think about it this way: the fact that it's an official game cannot be disproven, considering it now has A FREAKING WEBSITE ON CoJ'S SERVER.

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Yes I have settled into the realization that this game is really real. I do agree that this art is in its early development stages, but I'm really hoping it goes through some improvement. If this project in anyway comes off as a way to cash in on the series....Yahari will cry. :larry:

I still can't believe it though. Never before have I seen a game come out in a series that's surprises people with how fanservicy it is. Its like when Snake was introduced into Smash Brothers, all bets are off.
Furthermore with the advent of further GS news later this month, damn its a good time to be a GS fan. Holy crap!
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If it were really that fanservicey, wouldn't courts have been confirmed?
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I still can't believe it though. Never before have I seen a game come out in a series that's surprises people with how fanservicy it is. Its like when Snake was introduced into Smash Brothers, all bets are off.

Then you did NOT see the Sonic fandom when Sonic was announced to be in Brawl.

They are all literally shitting themselves. Multiple times. For weeks.

And this is why we don't feed the dumb fandoms. Phoenix Wright is a good fandom, so it deserves the fanservice it gets.

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.Storm Parakaitz wrote:
Naruhodou wrote:
I still can't believe it though. Never before have I seen a game come out in a series that's surprises people with how fanservicy it is. Its like when Snake was introduced into Smash Brothers, all bets are off.

Then you did NOT see the Sonic fandom when Sonic was announced to be in Brawl.

They are all literally shitting themselves. Multiple times. For weeks.

And this is why we don't feed the dumb fandoms. Phoenix Wright is a good fandom, so it deserves the fanservice it gets.

Seconded on all counts, Storm. And whether it's fanservice or not, for me the real attraction of the Ace Attorney games lies in the story itself (no matter how long I've wanted an Edgeworth-centric game). As long as the story's decent, then I at least will be quite the happy little fangirl.
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Lycoris Maida wrote:
.Storm Parakaitz wrote:
Naruhodou wrote:
I still can't believe it though. Never before have I seen a game come out in a series that's surprises people with how fanservicy it is. Its like when Snake was introduced into Smash Brothers, all bets are off.

Then you did NOT see the Sonic fandom when Sonic was announced to be in Brawl.

They are all literally shitting themselves. Multiple times. For weeks.

And this is why we don't feed the dumb fandoms. Phoenix Wright is a good fandom, so it deserves the fanservice it gets.

Seconded on all counts, Storm. And whether it's fanservice or not, for me the real attraction of the Ace Attorney games lies in the story itself (no matter how long I've wanted an Edgeworth-centric game). As long as the story's decent, then I at least will be quite the happy little fangirl.

Amen.
Out of all my games I've ever played, I can't think of a single one aside from the AA games where after I beat it, it not only can get no harder, but it loses all elements of skill (save for a memory of the last time you played it), had no customization, etc. and I'll still be loving my next playtroughs just for the story alone.
I think Capcom understands that about us, and I just hope they are treating Edgey right and give him a good story and not just call it good at “You get to be Edgeworth, Yayz!”
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Anyone done this yet? If not...

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Ta da! I'll tackle the running animation tomorrow (or someone else can do it).
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I think it would be best to go the same way Hotel Dusk 215 did with the first person view and the little radar dot on top of the screen.
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Don't worry. Sprites are certainly one of Capcom's better traits. I have faith that they'll look amazing in action, even if they don't look all that now.
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Go, Edgeworth, go!
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I didn't really like how this one turned out, but here it is:
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Yeesh, his cravat like...has epic physics.
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And yet, his hair has.......none! :D

Edit: My bad, you're right. I was just remarking on how insane anime hair physics are again, not nessecarily your spriting skills or anything.
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You can see a little hair bouncing in his running sprite (or it may just be my bad animating).
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Haibara~n wrote:
And yet, his hair has.......none! :D



Hair clay will do that to you...

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I can so picture Edgeworth chasing after a suspect with this sprite.
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Now we just need a sprite of Gumshoe trying to keep up and collapsing out of breath.
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Now we just need a sprite of Gumshoe trying to keep up and collapsing out of breath.



Trained Detective = can't keep up.

Prosecutor = Track and field star

I'd think Gumshoe would be pretty good at running really, he's aways getting places really quickly.
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I don't think the game looks poor quality at all. Quite the contrary, in fact! I think the sprites are really well done. They remind me of the style used in some Playstation 2 RPGs (Phantom Brave and Makai Kingdom immediately come to mind). The colors and the movement and the anatomy of Edgeworth just...


Here.

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I think the style is nice, and I'm sure I'll enjoy the sprites. In the meantime...^^;; I'm sorry for stealing an image from Spriter's Resource, but I'm at a school computer and didn't really have anything else to use.
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Watatata~! wrote:
Yeesh, his cravat like...has epic physics.

Because it is, in fact, epic. :keiko:
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From what I've seen, the graphics look like they could still use a little work, but, I don't expect them to be great.
I mean, the way it is with most games.
Like, compare the GS1 sprites and the GS4 ones. Quite an improvement, no? =)
I'm sure they'll improve as they get further into development. =)
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I'm still nervous seeing them take the GS characters and do this, but I'm sure Capcom knows what they're doing...


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you really can't tell this games quality yet, because they're taking pictures of a small screen so yeah, when we see the game close up on the DS we will probaly think it looks better
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I can so picture Edgeworth chasing after a suspect with this sprite.


lol, yeah, with the prissy way he is and all.
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Zeon Twilight wrote:
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And yet, his hair has.......none! :D



Hair clay will do that to you...

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Remember Cloud from FFVII? Yeah...

And I'm agreeing with everyone else on the quality. I'm not very gullible, and I believe this would happen, due to a trailer and official site.
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well, let's just say that after i saw the trailer, i'm not that excited anymore. -_-
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CoffeeAddict wrote:
well, let's just say that after i saw the trailer, i'm not that excited anymore. -_-


Really, because after I saw the trailer I got really excited.
(not in that way! get your mind out of the gutter!)

I love the AA series - but I love the writing more. Final Fantasy has found all sorts of different gameplay mechanisms to use that story. A different sort of gameplay for the AA series means new stories, new concepts, new gameplay. This is all good. If GS4 proved anything to me it's that the concept is getting a little tired (to me, the perceive system wasn't exactly a radical new use of the DS and the DS stuff in 1-5 was better than the whole of GS4) but the writing is still great.

Same quality writing but new concept = WIN, to me at least.

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IF, the writing is good. given that, i'll buy it even though the graphics looks crappy. but then i'll buy it anyway, better to buy a shitty game than to pass up a great one~
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CoffeeAddict wrote:
well, let's just say that after i saw the trailer, i'm not that excited anymore. -_-

Every AA trailer I saw was terrible in my eyes.
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CoffeeAddict wrote:
well, let's just say that after i saw the trailer, i'm not that excited anymore. -_-

Every AA trailer I saw was terrible in my eyes.
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CoffeeAddict wrote:
IF, the writing is good. given that, i'll buy it even though the graphics looks crappy. but then i'll buy it anyway, better to buy a shitty game than to pass up a great one~


You shouldn't buy a game based on graphics. :yuusaku:
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Phoenix_Apollo wrote:
You shouldn't buy a game based on graphics. :yuusaku:


don't worry, i don't.
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Phoenix_Apollo wrote:
CoffeeAddict wrote:
IF, the writing is good. given that, i'll buy it even though the graphics looks crappy. but then i'll buy it anyway, better to buy a shitty game than to pass up a great one~


You shouldn't buy a Nintendo game or anything made for a Nintendo system based on graphics. :yuusaku:


^ Fixed.

OP is right though -- it does seem particularly fanservice-y, kind of like an April Fool's joke (like that stupid LoZ movie my friends wouldn't shut up about). I'm kind of concerned how the series will keep up it's well known twisted story lines if there's no court phase...

"HOLY CRAP THIS PIECE OF EVIDENCE EXPLAINS EVERYTHING!"

I really, really hope the whole "NO COURT SCENES LOL!" is just a joke so when the game comes out it's extra epic, I've been praying for that since I heard it was solely investigation.
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i'm afraid there ARE no courtroom scenes. or so i think. maybe capcom would want to try a different approach, and see if it works well.
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I think the problem is that you're envisioning it as "Oh no, just the investigations like from the AA series." I agree, that would make for a boring game.

However, I don't think this game will be like those at all. I keep thinking of it as a detective game, with a markedly different style and new gameplay elements. So to me it seems like that would be awesome! The focus may be more on solving a mystery rather than fighting to prove a particular person guilty.
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no, you don't understand, i don't think it will be boring, probably it will be similar to Touch Detective, which i absolutely loved despite the negative reviews.

-_- please leave me alone, i did say that it doesn't look good, but that doesn't mean that i hate it. -_-
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