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Max hid Trilo in the Ringmaster's room the day of the crime. And the puppet was returned to Ben only the next day (when Nick gave him back).

How could Trilo witness anything at the night of the murder???
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....Trilo's a puppet. And Max hid him before he got arrested.
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I'm pretty sure that Trilo stated in his testimony that both him and Ben was there. He'd have no reason to lie about that.
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Actually, I think Max hid Trilo from Ben the day after the murder.
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But wasn't Max arrested that night? Moe called the police after witnessing the murder, right?
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It's a good point, if Max was arrested when the police arrived following Moe's phone call, then how did he have time to hide Trilo, who supposedly waited outside the plaza for Regina in order to propose to her.
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It's simple:

Ben and Trilo are of the same entity. Ben is the quiet, stuttering Stanley and Trilo is the brash, lewd, loud-mouthed jerk. However, Ben will never talk unless he has Trilo. When Ben has Trilo, Ben's true side shows; that being the brash, lewd, loud-mouthed jerk that is Trilo. After all, if you look closely you can see Ben's lips moving when Trilo talks.

That's why Trilo said he was there on the night of the murder; Ben was using him as a medium to convey what he saw. Trilo never saw anything. Ben saw something. Ben used Trilo to speak for him.
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Macbeth wrote:
It's simple:

Ben and Trilo are of the same entity. Ben is the quiet, stuttering Stanley and Trilo is the brash, lewd, loud-mouthed jerk. However, Ben will never talk unless he has Trilo. When Ben has Trilo, Ben's true side shows; that being the brash, lewd, loud-mouthed jerk that is Trilo. After all, if you look closely you can see Ben's lips moving when Trilo talks.

That's why Trilo said he was there on the night of the murder; Ben was using him as a medium to convey what he saw. Trilo never saw anything. Ben saw something. Ben used Trilo to speak for him.


I mostly agree with you except that they said that Trilo was waiting to propose to Regina, and that's when the ring was stolen. Ben never would have been able to propose to her by himself, therefore he wouldn't have had the ring out for it to be stolen. Thus the contradiction :/
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Yes, but Ben was merely using Trilo as a medium to convey his feelings toward Regina. We can conclude that Ben is shy and has something of a speech impediment. It was actually Ben who was going to propose to Regina through Trilo.

Problem solved... unless you can find something wrong?
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But Ben is too shy to even TALK to Regina. I doubt he could propose to her without Trilo. I'm not sure he realizes that she really thinks that Trilo is a separate entity, so he probably thought he could propose to her through Trilo and she would realize that it was Ben who was going to marry her. Therefore, I'm pretty sure he needed Trilo there to even think about proposing.

It's just conjecture, sure, but it's VERY likely considering what we know.
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Zephyr makes a good point. Ben wouldn't have waited for Regina unless he had Trilo with him.

The only explanation is that sometime after the murder and before he was arrested, Max hid Trilo.
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Its simple. Trilo wasn't there, but Ben was. Ben uses Trilo to exptss himself, so Ben was lying when he said Trilo was there. :ben: I'm onto you, Ben Woodman!
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I always assumed Max was not arrested until the next morning cause it was really late at night when the murder happened and no one actually saw the dead body till the next morning.

Ben and Trillo wait outside
Ringmaster is murdered
Max steals Trillo before police arrive
Max is arrested.
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Perhaps Ben was just speaking through Trilo about what he saw? But he wouldn't have a reason to lie about both of them being there...
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