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lol, let's not rush to conclusions and boycott the tree ja? to be honest it's so much more fun this way XD it's like we're all back in the olden days of brokeback mountain where the gay cowboy is dragged and tortured to death and everyone who's gay or les had to keep it quiet >w< but somehow i find this all so romantic TVT the feeling of forbidden love XD and what makes it more forbidden and thus more romantic is the fact that Don had laid out the rules, it's almost like romeo and juliet XD where the monarch's rules are absolute and people make live with what they can >w< ///////// so exciting////////

it's almost like a story TVT our love isn't going to be admitted, so we held our own little wedding and had our own happily ever after OvO so sweet >w<

I do 100% support gay/les marriage ( i had a hour long argument with someone in a chat place once and drove them out in the end lol) but c'mon, this is don's thread, let the boy have his little space XD in a modern day world it's probably rapidly becoming one of the last places you can openly express the old view of limiting matrimony to heteros XD the world's changing but if he doesn't want to move along with it then why not leave him be, it's his own choice OvO

anyway i say we keep this going the way it is, at least i'm having fun ^///____////^

p.s. and hey, c'mon, i'm a man XDDDDDDDD
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Well it does apply to those people who are on the tree. And I'm sure a lot of people on there would disagree with you.
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What Don is doing isn't right, though. Why should we back down, flames?
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Thank you flames.
Like I said numerous times. You can RP whatever you want. You can have a whole same sex RP for all I care. But what happens in them won't be supported by or part of the tree.
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Donald Serrot wrote:
Thank you flames.
Like I said numerous times. You can RP whatever you want. You can have a whole same sex RP for all I care. But what happens in them won't be supported by or part of the tree.


I'll support them, and I'M part of the tree.

Don't speak for all of us.
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Please everyone calm down.
This thread is not the place to discuss this anyway.

You know what I think, Don, but I'll still support you.
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Now can we put an end to this?
I shouldn't have brought this up, I'm sorry... I just didn't think everyone would take it so serious.

I'm happy with this, and everyone else should be too, please?
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Clarounette wrote:
Please everyone calm down.
This thread is not the place to discuss this anyway.

You know what I think, Don, but I'll still support you.

Why support a man who tries to speak for a large group of people and push his beliefs onto them? Think about what's right, here. Will you really bend to his opinion only because of his so-called "rank"?

Pandan wrote:
Now can we put an end to this?
I shouldn't have brought this up, I'm sorry... I just didn't think everyone would take it so serious.

I'm happy with this, and everyone else should be too, please?

This isn't about only you, Pandan. It's about everyone. Unless every member on the tree is against it, I won't allow it.
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lol we should back down because we don't really have a right to change the way things work in this thread, it is his thread after all. i mean, if you want to you can always start another thread right? as far as this goes...

1) i support gay/les marriage, but, there are people who don't think so, and they're entitled to hold onto their opinion too. you speak of what is right and what is wrong...what is "right" is merely "what is considered majority trend/opinion at a specific point in time", just like slavery was right in a period of time in US history. There is no absolute right and wrong, just a difference in opinion and a change in global trend.

2) this thread is like don's toy, he started it, and he shared it with everyone, he technically is the owner...OvO so he may not have a say in right or wrong of the world but at least he has a say in his own "toy" XD

3) c'mon guys, this is ONLY AN INTERNET RP, just let the poor guy have his little bit of glory. if this was a real life constitutional issue or debate i'd fight to the death to defend homosexual marriage too, but then...this is suppose to be fun, it's only a game, so, lighten up ^_^

and plus i don't think don's pushing his ideas onto people..he didn't say "you have to be against homo marriage", he just said he won't admit it in his game.
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Sure, he's entitled to his opinion, but what do you call not letting gay/les marriages happen because of beliefs? Forcing his opinions on us, is what I call it. He can have his beliefs, but he should be able to suck it up for an RP.

And besides, THE INTERNETS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS, right? :godot:
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Fleggin wrote:
Clarounette wrote:
Please everyone calm down.
This thread is not the place to discuss this anyway.

You know what I think, Don, but I'll still support you.

Why support a man who tries to speak for a large group of people and push his beliefs onto them? Think about what's right, here. Will you really bend to his opinion only because of his so-called "rank"?

Pandan wrote:
Now can we put an end to this?
I shouldn't have brought this up, I'm sorry... I just didn't think everyone would take it so serious.

I'm happy with this, and everyone else should be too, please?

This isn't about only you, Pandan. It's about everyone. Unless every member on the tree is against it, I won't allow it.

He never tried to push his beliefs on any of us. He just said it isn't allowed here.
In France, gay marriages aren't allowed. And there are people who are against it, and people who are for it. There can be debate, but it's still the same: the law says NO.
It's the same here, so no need to complain. If you want to debate, do it by PMs. But the law of this thread won't change.

So I don't support Don for his ideas, but I support him for the Tree.

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True, it's only an Internet RP. And we're supposed to lighten up? There's no law against pretend gay marriage over the Internet, Don! You have no right to stop it. If nothing else, I will make another Family Tree thread. It will not only include the current tree, but also any same-sex pairings. And before you even say it, Don. I won't even use your tree. I will do this without your tree. And I have Gerkuman's approval, myself:
You just got FLEGGIN'D says (2:37 PM):
If nothing else, will you allow me to create a second Family Tree thread that ALLOWS same-sex marriage?
You just got FLEGGIN'D says (2:38 PM):
Well?
[c=4][Matsudai Ryuu] [/c][c=3]Gerkuman[/c]: Feeling Frazzeled, could do with hugs. says (2:39 PM):
I'm not stopping you from making a second family tree
[c=4][Matsudai Ryuu] [/c][c=3]Gerkuman[/c]: Feeling Frazzeled, could do with hugs. says (2:39 PM):
Never would

Yeah, so you can back down and swallow your pride, or you can continue being unreasonable. Your choice, Don.
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Fleggin wrote:
True, it's only an Internet RP. And we're supposed to lighten up? There's no law against pretend gay marriage over the Internet, Don! You have no right to stop it. If nothing else, I will make another Family Tree thread. It will not only include the current tree, but also any same-sex pairings. And before you even say it, Don. I won't even use your tree. I will do this without your tree. And I have Gerkuman's approval, myself:
You just got FLEGGIN'D says (2:37 PM):
If nothing else, will you allow me to create a second Family Tree thread that ALLOWS same-sex marriage?
You just got FLEGGIN'D says (2:38 PM):
Well?
[c=4][Matsudai Ryuu] [/c][c=3]Gerkuman[/c]: Feeling Frazzeled, could do with hugs. says (2:39 PM):
I'm not stopping you from making a second family tree
[c=4][Matsudai Ryuu] [/c][c=3]Gerkuman[/c]: Feeling Frazzeled, could do with hugs. says (2:39 PM):
Never would

Yeah, so you can back down and swallow your pride, or you can continue being unreasonable. Your choice, Don.


And I will make sure my family will be on this much nicer tree. Besides, the weather is warmer there. :gant:
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lol, let's not rush to conclusions and boycott the tree ja? to be honest it's so much more fun this way XD it's like we're all back in the olden days of brokeback mountain where the gay cowboy is dragged and tortured to death and everyone who's gay or les had to keep it quiet >w< but somehow i find this all so romantic TVT the feeling of forbidden love XD and what makes it more forbidden and thus more romantic is the fact that Don had laid out the rules, it's almost like romeo and juliet XD where the monarch's rules are absolute and people make live with what they can >w< ///////// so exciting////////

it's almost like a story TVT our love isn't going to be admitted, so we held our own little wedding and had our own happily ever after OvO so sweet >w<

I do 100% support gay/les marriage ( i had a hour long argument with someone in a chat place once and drove them out in the end lol) but c'mon, this is don's thread, let the boy have his little space XD in a modern day world it's probably rapidly becoming one of the last places you can openly express the old view of limiting matrimony to heteros XD the world's changing but if he doesn't want to move along with it then why not leave him be, it's his own choice OvO

anyway i say we keep this going the way it is, at least i'm having fun ^///____////^

p.s. and hey, c'mon, i'm a man XDDDDDDDD


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The tree exist for love and nice relationship after all...correct me if I'm wrong. :hotti:
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Fleggin wrote:
True, it's only an Internet RP. And we're supposed to lighten up? There's no law against pretend gay marriage over the Internet, Don! You have no right to stop it. If nothing else, I will make another Family Tree thread. It will not only include the current tree, but also any same-sex pairings. And before you even say it, Don. I won't even use your tree. I will do this without your tree. And I have Gerkuman's approval, myself:
You just got FLEGGIN'D says (2:37 PM):
If nothing else, will you allow me to create a second Family Tree thread that ALLOWS same-sex marriage?
You just got FLEGGIN'D says (2:38 PM):
Well?
[c=4][Matsudai Ryuu] [/c][c=3]Gerkuman[/c]: Feeling Frazzeled, could do with hugs. says (2:39 PM):
I'm not stopping you from making a second family tree
[c=4][Matsudai Ryuu] [/c][c=3]Gerkuman[/c]: Feeling Frazzeled, could do with hugs. says (2:39 PM):
Never would

Yeah, so you can back down and swallow your pride, or you can continue being unreasonable. Your choice, Don.


*relieved* see, that's what i'm talking about OvO Don won't allow it in his thread, but it's his, so just leave it be, i'm so glad you're starting a new tree OvO good job >w< you have my full support.
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Everyone should listen to flames.

I know it's not avout me, but I started it, and I don't want anyone arguing about my stupid thoughts.

All games have rules, you could say this is one of them, we can't play a game if we don't follow the rules, so come on everyone.
Lets play and be happy about it. We can break the rules as much as we want to, outside the tree itself.
That is to say, all other threads. Kay?

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You haven't Gerk's approval, he just said that he won't stop you.
If you start another Family Tree, both threads will die. And I don't want my wonderful family to disappear.
So please, stop now!
If you don't agree with the rules, leave the Tree.


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Fleggin wrote:
Why support a man who tries to speak for a large group of people and push his beliefs onto them? Think about what's right, here. Will you really bend to his opinion only because of his so-called "rank"?

I don't try to speak for the whole. I speak for me and how I'm running this tree.
For most things I take it to the people of the tree. I ask them how they think I should do things. But there are some things I don't do that on. This is one of them.
The only reason I pulled out my "rank" (That is Gerk saying I was in charge of the tree and that I'd have mos support for any decision I make regaurding said tree just so you know) was to state that I was given the authority to make these decisions. I have avoided having to make a decision in this way up to this point, and now I'm making it this way.
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This isn't about only you, Pandan. It's about everyone. Unless every member on the tree is against it, I won't allow it.

It's not your choice to allow it, it's your choice to be part of this tree, but you don't have final say.
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Sure, he's entitled to his opinion, but what do you call not letting gay/les marriages happen because of beliefs? Forcing his opinions on us, is what I call it. He can have his beliefs, but he should be able to suck it up for an RP.

Putting words in my mouth.
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Like I said numerous times. You can RP whatever you want. You can have a whole same sex RP for all I care. But what happens in them won't be supported by or part of the tree.

You guys can do whatever you want! I won't add it to the tree but you are still free to do anything! I won't stop you! It just won't be on the tree picture!

@Fleggin's tree: Like I said, I don't care what you do in RP, just don't include me in your tree.
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That means that your partner is also out of the tree, Don. Or should we just make it a single parent family by divorce?

EDIT: And Wrestlemania won't be related to anyone on the tree anymore.
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I'd say leave people off until you get word from them that they want to be on it.
This is a controversial issue, some people won't want to be associated with it.
Best let them chose to be part of it if they want to.

And I'm going to from this point on not talk about the other tree in this topic. I ask that everyone else do the same.
It will be much better if we keep the two topics separate from eachother as much as possible.
And if anyone wants to leave here to go there I don't mind, let me know via PM and I'll remove you from here so that you don't have to be caught between two topics.
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That's okay with me, Don. You are indeed entitled to your beliefs, and if I'm to make another tree thread, I'll have to respect your decision. It's nothing personal at all.
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Fleggin wrote:
That's okay with me, Don. You are indeed entitled to your beliefs, and if I'm to make another tree thread, I'll have to respect your decision. It's nothing personal at all.

Same here. I respect your decision to make your own topic and I won't stop you.
I won't support it, but I'll respect it by leaving it alone.
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Please, DON'T DO THIS!!!
It's not about beliefs, it's about rules. Please respect them!
I want this Family Tree to keep going!


DON'T RUIN MY FAMILY!!!
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Clarounette wrote:
Please, DON'T DO THIS!!!
It's not about beliefs, it's about rules. Please respect them!
I want this Family Tree to keep going!


DON'T RUIN MY FAMILY!!!

I don't plan to ruin anything. Stay on this tree if you want. But I feel that there should be a place that supports same-sex marriage, too. It's just like smoking and non-smoking seating in a restaurant, except without the health hazards of smoking.
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But you know some people will join your Tree, and some others will stay here.
So eventually part of the families will be destroyed, since you can't be on both.

As for Flames and Tuesday, I should say this: even though you're not on the Tree, I think of you as my brother-in-law, Flames (and my friend).
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Clarounette wrote:
But you know some people will join your Tree, and some others will stay here.
So eventually part of the families will be destroyed, since you can't be on both.

As for Flames and Tuesday, I should say this: even though you're not on the Tree, I think of you as my brother-in-law, Flames (and my friend).

I just wouldn't sacrifice a cause for something like that. I apologize that you feel this way, but it's my turn to not budge.
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Since it's a Family Tree, I think the families are more important than the cause.
Come and fight in France if you want gay marriages.
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Guys. This is ridiculus.
I agree with Fleggin that same sex marriages are okay, but it just isn't my call. Don heads this and can do whatever he wants with it, and, even though I doubt I'll ever be able to look at him the same again after this, doesn't like the idea at all. Which is fine. He wasn't going around flaming people who chose that path, so he's not hurting anyone. Just leave it, guys.
And Fleggin, I support your idea of a any-marriage tree, but please, don't.
This thing is an intricate network, and when people start to leave it'll rip holes in it. Just... leave it.
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It's done. It's not worth trying to stop it.
If he's just as steadfast as I am he won't budge.
I'm not gonna be upset about it, I'm gonna move on.
Yes, this will probably affect some families but things happen, families end up split.
I left my family in the old tree when there were some things I didn't agree with in my old family.
Parents divorcing... sister marrying her father...
I split off and kept my family separate. And then we started a new tree when the old one crumbled.
The families really got broken up then. But it was necessary to keep the tree alive. Now we have conflicting opinions, ones that are probably gonna make big changes in this family.
All we can do it deal with things as they come, not worry about every little thing.

Have a lollipop and chillax people. Life happens.

Edit: I'm not here to win any popularity contests. I'm here to run this tree as I think it should be.
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Donald Serrot wrote:
It's done. It's not worth trying to stop it.
If he's just as steadfast as I am he won't budge.
I'm not gonna be upset about it, I'm gonna move on.
Yes, this will probably affect some families but things happen, families end up split.
I left my family in the old tree when there were some things I didn't agree with in my old family.
Parents divorcing... sister marrying her father...
I split off and kept my family separate. And then we started a new tree.
The families really got broken up then. But it was necessary. Now we have conflicting opinions, ones that are probably gonna make big changes in this family.
All we can do it deal with things as they come, not worry about every little thing.

Have a lollipop and chillax people. Life happens.

I agree. I never wanted anything split, but that's how it's got to go now. Besides, what's wrong with having two families? It means less chances of incest. >.<
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It's Don's tree; he made it. Therefore, he is boss. If you don't like it, you don't have to be a part of it! Simple. I don't agree with Don's view, but I am I arguing? No. Just relax. We're a family, right? Families stick together! ^_^
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Im going to stick to this tree. I dont want to be a part of no gay tree. I was just going to remain neutral till I got a date, but I changed my mind.
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One K, one R, two V's. Gawd.

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Whatever. I'm not extending mine any more when they move out, though. This thing has gotten to be an eighth roleplay and the rest drama.
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Yuki Fan~!

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Donald Serrot wrote:
It's done. It's not worth trying to stop it.
If he's just as steadfast as I am he won't budge.
I'm not gonna be upset about it, I'm gonna move on.
Yes, this will probably affect some families but things happen, families end up split.
I left my family in the old tree when there were some things I didn't agree with in my old family.
Parents divorcing... sister marrying her father...
I split off and kept my family separate. And then we started a new tree when the old one crumbled.
The families really got broken up then. But it was necessary to keep the tree alive. Now we have conflicting opinions, ones that are probably gonna make big changes in this family.
All we can do it deal with things as they come, not worry about every little thing.

Have a lollipop and chillax people. Life happens.

Edit: I'm not here to win any popularity contests. I'm here to run this tree as I think it should be.


Donald Serrot wrote:
Parents divorcing... sister marrying her father...


Donald Serrot wrote:
sister marrying her father...


TT_TT
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Yo Dawg!

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Thats pitiful
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Yuki Fan~!

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Neon Lemmy Koopa wrote:
Thats pitiful


You DO know who he's talking 'bout, right?
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Yo Dawg!

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actually no.
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I may or may not be here.

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Fleggin wrote:
It means less chances of incest. >.<

Actually... we can't have incest here. XD
Wen two people who are already on the tree get married one person has to move to the other's side of the tree cutting the line of of their parents.
So technically it can't happen. =P
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Whatever. I'm not extending mine any more when they move out, though. This thing has gotten to be an eighth roleplay and the rest drama.

These topics aren't roleplay, this is building families for the roleplay.
I made that very clear in the first post.
The RP part is in the other topics in this section.
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This time I'll be bulletproof.

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Hmm..I will probably appear on both trees, I'm for s-s-marriages, but I will marry CCCM, so I won't have a gay/les wedding..
Why is this going so far? I don't want to lose my old family, but I don't want to offense anyone from the new tree!
I'm not using CR anymore.
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