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But then again, given Americanised translations, I'm not surprised they're taking it like that...besides, anyone been to Japan or had any contact with a shrine maiden anyway...
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I'm more then willing to write more, but I'm currently lacking ideas. Writer's block is an evil thing, but reviews often help. :P


In the meantime, here are some fics that I've run across on fanfiction.net that at least reference the pairing.

A Night of Messes and Mayhem by Jedi Knight Cheeze. I don't think it has any spoilers (although I don't remember well enough to swear to that). It's AU. The pairing is mentioned, but isn't the main point of the story.

Times Change by SonicTH228. This story is set after AJ and has spoilers for that game. I believe it has T&T spoilers as well if I'm remembering correctly.

Goodbye Again by Pushingaway. Mature rating. Don't whine to me about that because I warned you. :P It's actually pretty good, but it left me feeling sad (If you don't like angst, then this is not the story for you. If you do like angst, then give it a read :) ). T&T spoilers.

Words of Love by GigoLove07. The first two chapters are Phoenix/Iris. T&T spoilers.

Those are the ones I can recall. Enjoy! I know I did. :)


Ooooh, thank you! :D

I think I've already read the mature one. x_X; Even if it was angsty, um...I thought it was a sad way to end it?

But I wanna read the first 3 nowz :D Ty, Mia_Fey! AHHHHH-HEM! I will drop reviews on you soon! ;)

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Well of course I go right for the angsty one.

Sigh. :yuusaku:

So many people seem to use the excuse that Iris is a shrine maiden to say she can't be with Phoenix.

That's wrong. Iris isn't a Christian nun, the same rules don't apply.


Yeah. -.-

Shrine maidens can so too marry! They leave the temple when they're going to get married! No one's forcing them to stay! >_<

If Iris was an acolyte though, it's even harder to abandon your duties. I mean, at least I think so. :yuusaku:
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No problem, Arti_Rei. :) I always keep an eye out for Phoenix/Iris fics, so I'll make sure to post them if I find more.

As to the topic being discussed, I do think a lot of the assumption that Iris's duties at the temple would interfere with a romantic life does have to do with the fact that she was "Sister" Iris in localization as well as repeatedly being referred to as a nun which brings to mind the inaccurate idea that she was forever bound to celibacy, but this assumption also probably partially comes from the fuss that Larry made about what he believed Iris's secret was which could also be a mistake in the localization I suppose (that would be a much more serious mistake in the translation though). He makes a big deal about how Iris would never want Bikini to know about their "love" (Larry's mind works in such unique ways <_<) and when you mix that idea with previous notions of nuns then I can understand why people come to that assumption.

I do think it is likely that Iris would eventually have to leave the temple if she and Phoenix were to get serious even if she was allowed to pursue a romantic relationship while continuing her duties at the temple simply because of the distance involved. At the start, it probably wouldn't interfere that much (I could see her working briefly at the temple while seeing Phoenix to make sure Bikini would be okay), but later into the relationship as it developed I imagine it would prove a much more difficult issue if she remained at the temple. Now, I don't think that the idea of Iris leaving the temple is that big a deal because she could always visit and she honestly didn't have any reason to stay at the temple by the end of 3-5. She admits that she doesn't even like spirit channeling and remained at the temple to repent for her sins (and probably her gratitude and love for Bikini played a role in her choice there), but by the end of 3-5 her past is forgiven which took away Iris's big reason to remain. The temple was doing well enough after that case that Bikini could probably have hired help (And I can't see her being cruel enough to bind Iris there if she knew that Iris would be happier elsewhere. Bikini was wrong in some of her decisions while raising Iris, but she clearly loved Iris like a daughter and wanted what was best for her) and Iris could always visit if she wanted to do so.
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Bikini was wrong in some of her decisions while raising Iris

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Bikini was wrong in some of her decisions while raising Iris

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I should clarify. :) I think Bikini was a wonderful mother to Iris, but I do think that she did Iris an injustice by keeping her so sheltered. A lot of the grief Iris went through could have been avoided if she had better understood the situations that kept coming up and reacted accordingly. Would she still have helped her sister? Probably because nothing would change the fact that she loved Dahlia, but I find it unlikely that Iris would have been so easily controlled by her sister and might well have been able to soften some of the blows if she had not been so sheltered in her upbringing and could have better understood the situation. I also doubt that had Iris been brought up to be more confident and knowledgeable, Godot and Misty would have found Iris to be so easily manipulated in their plans, but because they were people that Iris knew should be held in great esteem and would therefore know better then her even though they were being stupid, she said nothing and refused to second guess them (Even though she appeared to want to warn Phoenix. Telling Phoenix to be careful and giving him her hood when he was only going back to his room from the bathroom seems to be very close to a warning). Iris is a wonderful person, but her naivety always led her into trouble (This is actually a big theme in the games. The best examples for this besides Iris are Regina and Pearl. There is also one character is GS4 that fits this description as well, but I won't discuss that character here. Pearl in her sheltered state ends up almost helping her mother kill the cousin she adores. It's true that Regina may not have been manipulated in 2-3, but Russell certainly didn't do her any favors by keeping her a child). The world is not an easy place and although it is a natural reaction to want to protect your children, at some point they have to grow up so they can navigate in the world by themselves. Iris was denied this opportunity and this left her vulnerable. Bikini made an understandable mistake, but it was a mistake none the less. Well at least that is my take on it.
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I should clarify. :) I think Bikini was a wonderful mother to Iris, but I do think that she did Iris an injustice by keeping her so sheltered. A lot of the grief Iris went through could have been avoided if she had better understood the situations that kept coming up and reacted accordingly. Would she still have helped her sister? Probably because nothing would change the fact that she loved Dahlia, but I find it unlikely that Iris would have been so easily controlled by her sister and might well have been able to soften some of the blows if she had not been so sheltered in her upbringing and could have better understood the situation. I also doubt that had Iris been brought up to be more confident and knowledgeable, Godot and Misty would have found Iris to be so easily manipulated in their plans, but because they were people that Iris knew should be held in great esteem and would therefore know better then her even though they were being stupid, she said nothing and refused to second guess them (Even though she appeared to want to warn Phoenix. Telling Phoenix to be careful and giving him her hood when he was only going back to his room from the bathroom seems to be very close to a warning). Iris is a wonderful person, but her naivety always led her into trouble (This is actually a big theme in the games. The best examples for this besides Iris are Regina and Pearl. There is also one character is GS4 that fits this description as well, but I won't discuss that character here. Pearl in her sheltered state ends up almost helping her mother kill the cousin she adores. It's true that Regina may not have been manipulated in 2-3, but Russell certainly didn't do her any favors by keeping her a child). The world is not an easy place and although it is a natural reaction to want to protect your children, at some point they have to grow up so they can navigate in the world by themselves. Iris was denied this opportunity and this left her vulnerable. Bikini made an understandable mistake, but it was a mistake none the less. Well at least that is my take on it.


Nnn. I didn't realize naivety was a near central theme to the games. But it makes sense. Three/Four naive girls. In the end, their innocence can't be protected.
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Here are a couple more fics that I read a while ago. I hope that The Sin of Deception by Rin-neechan and Walls Between Us by Batpig Sexgod haven't already been posted. Both are angsty, but they are good reads if you're interested. Rin-neechan told me at one point that she was planning a sequel to her story with a happier ending and that idea is still in her profile as being in progress, so hopefully it'll be written sometime soon. :)
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Here are a couple more fics that I read a while ago. I hope that The Sin of Deception by Rin-neechan and Walls Between Us by Batpig Sexgod haven't already been posted. Both are angsty, but they are good reads if you're interested. Rin-neechan told me at one point that she was planning a sequel to her story with a happier ending and that idea is still in her profile as being in progress, so hopefully it'll be written sometime soon. :)


*quivers with excitement at the thought of spreading the Feenris virus further into the internet* :pearly:
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So many fanfics...Mia, are you that bored to look up fanfics these days? :oops:

Anyway, expect a slight surprise on my behalf soon...if I can get the desktop up and running soon :sadshoe:
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.................I have to bring this up. I swear to the Great Buddha I really do. It's not something I can ever ignore, even if the information is short of relevant.

As we know,

Spoiler: "For chappie 3-5"
Feenie went out with "Dollie" for six/eight months, Iris using this guise to retrieve the pendant from him. They fall in love instead, and Dahlia catches onto that, and tried to murder Feenie, got tried for murder and was executed 5 years later. As for Iris, afraid to face Feenie with the truth knowing that would just hurt him more than the incident did already, confines herself to the Hazakura Temple with Sister Bikini for company.


Here's what I suddenly picked up from one of my random moments of musing on something random/related. And ridiculous and silly as it sounds.............

The great King Arthur and his beloved Queen Guinevere were in the same position as these two. Betrayal and wavering devotion being that link.

Before you stone me to death, :larry: I can only say that the positions of the four characters contrast yet compare in ways that I find appalling.

Err...long story short. Feenie makes me think of King Arthur, but only subtly! XD I mean, the king was portrayed to have made mistakes in the past after acting too brashly. I could say the same for Feenie, but I guess that's debatable. King Arthur, like him, knows when to be responsible for the people dearest to their hearts, since he generally never wanted his queen or his best knight to have been hurt when they had a secret love affair as others began to suspect. They both have a strong sense of justice I believe. And I think....it's even funnier to say that at one point in a novel (The Once and Future King) that I read lightly, it was King Arthur who introduced the Jurist System, or more accurately Civil Law, so that "instead of power being wielded by the knights, it now belongs to the state. An example of this would be the replacing of trial-by-battle with trial by jury." Granted, every trial they held back then would be based on public opinion itself. Ahem. If you got my point here, that's all I'm saying. :P

Cutting ourselves off from those two men, we come to the two women. See, Guinevere's quite famous for having been the one to betray her king and husband for having an affair with Lancelot, whom she was "enamored" with. I think the very thing that caught my attention was that after her betrayal, she went to live in a convent to repent for her sins. ......I think this was pretty close to comparing her with our Iris.

And what's most important is this.

Guinevere has been portrayed as everything from a weak and opportunistic traitor to a fatally flawed but noble and virtuous gentlewoman. I'm more for the latter, if it's Iris we're comparing her to. Let's just rub out the "noble" part, because something about that doesn't ring a bell. :lana:

Well, I thought it was fitting! Guinevere loved her king as a king and her husband(sometimes). She just........you can hate her for it, but I can't. -_- It's difficult to explain without me getting stuck on the words. Anyway, Iris betrayed Feenie by lying to him and effectively helping him become jaded. Heartbroken and with nothing left to lose trying to protect his feelings, she breaks off all contact from the outside world and "vanished". Same thing that Guinevere did when the guilt overwhelmed her, having always cared about King Arthur.

And that concludes this nutty random session. The end. :nick-sweat:

Whew.

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So many fanfics...Mia, are you that bored to look up fanfics these days? :oops:

Anyway, expect a slight surprise on my behalf soon...if I can get the desktop up and running soon :sadshoe:


No, I'm not that bored. I actually read most of these ages ago and when Arti_Rei made a request for some Phoenix/Iris fics, I backtracked a bit to locate them again (made easier by the search engine on fanfiction.net).

Arti_Rei wrote:
.................I have to bring this up. I swear to the Great Buddha I really do. It's not something I can ever ignore, even if the information is short of relevant.

As we know,

Spoiler: "For chappie 3-5"
Feenie went out with "Dollie" for six/eight months, Iris using this guise to retrieve the pendant from him. They fall in love instead, and Dahlia catches onto that, and tried to murder Feenie, got tried for murder and was executed 5 years later. As for Iris, afraid to face Feenie with the truth knowing that would just hurt him more than the incident did already, confines herself to the Hazakura Temple with Sister Bikini for company.


Here's what I suddenly picked up from one of my random moments of musing on something random/related. And ridiculous and silly as it sounds.............

The great King Arthur and his beloved Queen Guinevere were in the same position as these two. Betrayal and wavering devotion being that link.

Before you stone me to death, :larry: I can only say that the positions of the four characters contrast yet compare in ways that I find appalling.

Err...long story short. Feenie makes me think of King Arthur, but only subtly! XD I mean, the king was portrayed to have made mistakes in the past after acting too brashly. I could say the same for Feenie, but I guess that's debatable. King Arthur, like him, knows when to be responsible for the people dearest to their hearts, since he generally never wanted his queen or his best knight to have been hurt when they had a secret love affair as others began to suspect. They both have a strong sense of justice I believe. And I think....it's even funnier to say that at one point in a novel (The Once and Future King) that I read lightly, it was King Arthur who introduced the Jurist System, or more accurately Civil Law, so that "instead of power being wielded by the knights, it now belongs to the state. An example of this would be the replacing of trial-by-battle with trial by jury." Granted, every trial they held back then would be based on public opinion itself. Ahem. If you got my point here, that's all I'm saying. :P

Cutting ourselves off from those two men, we come to the two women. See, Guinevere's quite famous for having been the one to betray her king and husband for having an affair with Lancelot, whom she was "enamored" with. I think the very thing that caught my attention was that after her betrayal, she went to live in a convent to repent for her sins. ......I think this was pretty close to comparing her with our Iris.

And what's most important is this.

Guinevere has been portrayed as everything from a weak and opportunistic traitor to a fatally flawed but noble and virtuous gentlewoman. I'm more for the latter, if it's Iris we're comparing her to. Let's just rub out the "noble" part, because something about that doesn't ring a bell. :lana:

Well, I thought it was fitting! Guinevere loved her king as a king and her husband(sometimes). She just........you can hate her for it, but I can't. -_- It's difficult to explain without me getting stuck on the words. Anyway, Iris betrayed Feenie by lying to him and effectively helping him become jaded. Heartbroken and with nothing left to lose trying to protect his feelings, she breaks off all contact from the outside world and "vanished". Same thing that Guinevere did when the guilt overwhelmed her, having always cared about King Arthur.

And that concludes this nutty random session. The end. :nick-sweat:

Whew.

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That's an interesting comparison and it's one I've never thought of before. I can certainly see a few of the correlations between them.
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.................I have to bring this up. I swear to the Great Buddha I really do. It's not something I can ever ignore, even if the information is short of relevant.

As we know,

Spoiler: "For chappie 3-5"
Feenie went out with "Dollie" for six/eight months, Iris using this guise to retrieve the pendant from him. They fall in love instead, and Dahlia catches onto that, and tried to murder Feenie, got tried for murder and was executed 5 years later. As for Iris, afraid to face Feenie with the truth knowing that would just hurt him more than the incident did already, confines herself to the Hazakura Temple with Sister Bikini for company.


Here's what I suddenly picked up from one of my random moments of musing on something random/related. And ridiculous and silly as it sounds.............

The great King Arthur and his beloved Queen Guinevere were in the same position as these two. Betrayal and wavering devotion being that link.

Before you stone me to death, :larry: I can only say that the positions of the four characters contrast yet compare in ways that I find appalling.

Err...long story short. Feenie makes me think of King Arthur, but only subtly! XD I mean, the king was portrayed to have made mistakes in the past after acting too brashly. I could say the same for Feenie, but I guess that's debatable. King Arthur, like him, knows when to be responsible for the people dearest to their hearts, since he generally never wanted his queen or his best knight to have been hurt when they had a secret love affair as others began to suspect. They both have a strong sense of justice I believe. And I think....it's even funnier to say that at one point in a novel (The Once and Future King) that I read lightly, it was King Arthur who introduced the Jurist System, or more accurately Civil Law, so that "instead of power being wielded by the knights, it now belongs to the state. An example of this would be the replacing of trial-by-battle with trial by jury." Granted, every trial they held back then would be based on public opinion itself. Ahem. If you got my point here, that's all I'm saying. :P

Cutting ourselves off from those two men, we come to the two women. See, Guinevere's quite famous for having been the one to betray her king and husband for having an affair with Lancelot, whom she was "enamored" with. I think the very thing that caught my attention was that after her betrayal, she went to live in a convent to repent for her sins. ......I think this was pretty close to comparing her with our Iris.

And what's most important is this.

Guinevere has been portrayed as everything from a weak and opportunistic traitor to a fatally flawed but noble and virtuous gentlewoman. I'm more for the latter, if it's Iris we're comparing her to. Let's just rub out the "noble" part, because something about that doesn't ring a bell. :lana:

Well, I thought it was fitting! Guinevere loved her king as a king and her husband(sometimes). She just........you can hate her for it, but I can't. -_- It's difficult to explain without me getting stuck on the words. Anyway, Iris betrayed Feenie by lying to him and effectively helping him become jaded. Heartbroken and with nothing left to lose trying to protect his feelings, she breaks off all contact from the outside world and "vanished". Same thing that Guinevere did when the guilt overwhelmed her, having always cared about King Arthur.

And that concludes this nutty random session. The end. :nick-sweat:

Whew.

</random thoughts>


Hmm, that's an interesting read there Arti. I do believe there are some points where you've brought up do conflict with what I've been brought up on but I have to argue later as I do not have the resources or texts to back my theories up.
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:phoenix: / :ayame: is definitely the cutest couple in all the A.A series!! She should have made an appereance in GS4 although I miss :maya: and :pearl: too...
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Ah! Here's a question, though I don't remember if we've already brought it up. XD

On what season could Feenie and Iris get married, or which is more suitable?

Me? I prefer during the melting of winter and the coming of spring. Kinda means something. :P
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Ah! Here's a question, though I don't remember if we've already brought it up. XD

On what season could Feenie and Iris get married, or which is more suitable?

Me? I prefer during the melting of winter and the coming of spring. Kinda means something. :P


Season? Hmmm, I would associate iris with spring usually as the Japanese festival for guys usually have iris as a symbol of nobility and heroism...
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Ah! Here's a question, though I don't remember if we've already brought it up. XD

On what season could Feenie and Iris get married, or which is more suitable?

Me? I prefer during the melting of winter and the coming of spring. Kinda means something. :P


Season? Hmmm, I would associate iris with spring usually as the Japanese festival for guys usually have iris as a symbol of nobility and heroism...


*GASP* REALLY? THEN, THEN...I definitely choose spring. :godot:
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Huh, that is an interesting comparison, Arti. I don't know much about King Arthur history, though I have heard of that. It's slightly different in that Iris never cheated on Phoenix, but when you look at the two examples in a more broad spectrum, there are similarities. Both Guinivere and Iris felt like they betrayed a man they both cared about and decided to live in seclusion ((crap, is that the correct word?)) in order to attone for their betrayal. Very interesting indeed :gregory:

I do kinda like the idea of a "first day of spring" kind of wedding season; it indeed procures a lot of symbolism :odoroki: But there's just something about having a wedding during Japan's cherry blossom season that's just... *sigh* so romantic and pretty... :edgy:

On a side note, I went with my mother to look for flowers a couple of months ago. I saw a sign that said "Dahlias" and another for "Irises" lol. I thought it was funny! :keiko:
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Interesting idea, Arti. :) Hm... I'd lean towards spring (because I'm original like that <_<) simply because of what the season represents and how it relates to them as both a couple and as individuals. Spring tends to represent rebirth and this is a big point about their relationship. They're all about starting over and moving together towards a brighter future. More then that, both of their names have either to do with images of spring (an iris being a type of flower of course) or this idea of rebirth (Phoenix... need I say more? :P).

On an entirely separate note with no justification, I think fall is pretty with all the brightly colored leaves. On another side note, cherry blossom trees are awesome (and add another reason for having the wedding sometime during the spring). <3 There should also be irises somewhere at the wedding.


And Caelestis, the flower thing with the twins' names made me smile, so thank you for sharing.

Edit: And here is a pretty sketch done by Violet. :)
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Sorry for double posting, but here is a pretty picture. The source is http://takuma.chaso.net/ but the link doesn't seem to be working right now.
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Wow...I love the colors in the picture. Too bad it's not a bigger size, otherwise I'd have a new desktop wallpaper. :phoenix:
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I think this was posted here before, or I got it from somewhere else? No matter! I love this pic anyway! XD

Spoiler: I LOVE THE CONTRAST! SERIOUSLY!
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I don't know why, but something about this picture just...sends me breaking out into laughter, especiallly when I look over there at a certain evil twin sister with a poisonous hobby. :gant:


Btw, that last picture..........I am so making it the next wallpaper. :3
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I love that picture. A lot. :edgy: The artist who did it has a couple young Phoenix/Iris pics with Dahlia included which I think is rather fitting and hilarious.

This might be my favorite of the two. :) I may have posted this, so I apologize if I have.
Spoiler: T&T
I think that I may sympathize with Dahlia more after seeing this picture. :P And Iris being all goofy over her Feenie is too adorable.
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I love that picture. A lot. :edgy: The artist who did it has a couple young Phoenix/Iris pics with Dahlia included which I think is rather fitting and hilarious.

This might be my favorite of the two. :) I may have posted this, so I apologize if I have.
Spoiler: T&T
I think that I may sympathize with Dahlia more after seeing this picture. :P And Iris being all goofy over her Feenie is too adorable.
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Ahahahaha! Not to mention Feenie all.......SPARKLY in Iris' fantasy!!!!! :gant-clap2:
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Look! It's fluff! Present by Batpig Sexgod. T&T and possible AJ spoilers.


On a side note, we need more discussion in this thread, but I'm fresh out of topics. I'll go brainstorm a bit, but if anyone has any ideas for topics they want to discuss then they should go ahead and mention them. I'd certainly appreciate it. :)
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Mia_Fey wrote:
Look! It's fluff! Present by Batpig Sexgod.


On a side note, we need more discussion in this thread, but I'm fresh out of topics. I'll go brainstorm a bit, but if anyone has any ideas for topics they want to discuss then they should go ahead and mention them. I'd certainly appreciate it. :)

AWWWWWWWW

Fluff made me tear up a bit. :larry: That's so sweet!!!!

Also....hmmmmm....based on that fanfic, how would Trucy react if Iris became part of their family?

I think she'd be very happy to have a mommy around. Especially one as sweet as Iris.

Discuss!!
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*LOUD SOB*

Feenie and Iris were crying in that fic, that I ended up crying too. ;________;

I LOVE YOU GUUUUUUUUYS! THANK YOUUUUU! XD

EDIT: TOPIC TOPIC TOPIC!

If Feenie and Iris met on different circumstances, like, for example:

Iris and Dahlia were part of the main branch line instead because their mother became Master, then how would Feenie ever have met Iris, I wonder? :P
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WaitingForCoffee: Since Trucy is always asking Phoenix when he will get her a new mommy, I think Trucy would be excited and happy. :minuki:

Arti_Rei:
Spoiler: 3-5
Iris is Maya's and Mia's cousin. I'm sure they Iris and Phoenix would meet through them.
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I agree that I think Trucy would be very happy to have Iris for a mother. Honestly, I think their personalities would mesh well and Iris really does strike me as the motherly type. Besides, Phoenix would be happier also which would please both Trucy and Iris. :)


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Spoiler: 3-5
Iris is Maya's and Mia's cousin. I'm sure they Iris and Phoenix would meet through them.


Spoiler: T&T
True, but remember that he only met Mia and Maya because Mia became a lawyer to search for her mother after DL-6 and to avoid a conflict with Maya over leadership. If Morgan had enough spiritual power to be Master, it's likely that Morgan would have done the DL-6 channeling and that there wouldn't have been as many harsh feelings over leadership (unless Misty was really ambitious). The failure would land on Morgan's shoulders and Misty hopefully wouldn't feel the need to abandon her family (although who knows with her :sadshoe: ), so Mia would have no reason to follow her. Now it could be that Morgan would flee instead and that one of her daughters would go after (or I suppose that it's possible that Mia would pursue her aunt as well), which could still lead to Phoenix and Iris meeting at some point. If Iris were the one to follow then it might lead to her and Phoenix having more direct contact (and even if it was Dahlia who left, the twins were clearly close so he still might have met Iris through Dahlia). It's also possible that they wouldn't have met though, although if both Iris and Dahlia still had no spiritual power then they might have left the village eventually and either both have gone to college or still only one of the would have gone which also could have connected Phoenix and Iris again. It's funny to think about the chain effect that can occur when even just one thing is changed. Thoughts? :)



On another note, this fic is quite cute although the writing is more then a little rough. Turnabout Revival by key.of.dawn. It contains AJ spoilers.
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I got confused reading that! :ack: But it makes sense still.
Spoiler: For anything?
I mean, a connection has to be made at some point when the DL-6 incident occurred. But I'm not sure how long it would be until Dahlia gets mean enough to intrude in on Feenie's life then try to poison him while Iris falls in love with him. Oh, wait. That doesn't make sense at all. XD I see no reason for Dahlia to poison him unless she "killed" someone who suspects her for the murder of her nonexistent stepsister as well as the nonexistent ex-boyfriend on Death Row. ...........Okay, I confused myself now. x.x

The point is, a connection is possible, as long as the DL-6 stays in the PW universe.


Hoot! Already read that fic! :3 It's pretty cute, and I LOVE the way the Feenris interaction goes! It's definitely in-character!
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I'm sorry. I didn't mean to confuse you. Having just read over my last post though, I realize that it doesn't make much sense. It just shows how complicated things can get. There are just so many factors in life (or in a set up like we see in the games) that changing even one thing can lead to a multitude of different possibilities. :) It's truly difficult to figure out what could have happened in the past under different circumstances. All we can know for certain is what has happened and we can guess at what could happen in the future.
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I'm sorry for double posting... please don't be angry. Anyway, the reason for this post is that Zoroko did this beautiful picture and I felt the need to share it with all my fellow Phoenix/Iris lovers.
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I'm sorry for double posting... please don't be angry. Anyway, the reason for this post is that Zoroko did this beautiful picture and I felt the need to share it with all my fellow Phoenix/Iris lovers.
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*LOUD SOB*

I'm going to keep that image preserved so that Feenris lives long and happy in my heart. :edgy:
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... I feel the need to post this sketch even though it's not strictly pairing based. It's just too pretty.
Spoiler: Iris is beautiful :)
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And people need to talk more in this thread. Pick a topic and go with it. I'll return in the near future. :P
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@M_F: Aw!! Iris~~~!!!

I haven't posted for ages, but I'm trying to get Ace Attorney.

FeenRis isn't my OTP, But I hope that Iris returns in GS5!!
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Random: If Iris calls Phoenix "Feenie", what cute nickname can Phoenix call Iris?
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Random: If Iris calls Phoenix "Feenie", what cute nickname can Phoenix call Iris?


We've already talked about that: Irie, Rissy, Ris...there's a lot, but we've settled for Rissy, thanks to Mia_Fey. :P
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FANFIC ALERT! FEENRIS DRAMATIC STUFF ALERT!

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4343446/1/Impasse
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Random: If Iris calls Phoenix "Feenie", what cute nickname can Phoenix call Iris?


We've already talked about that: Irie, Rissy, Ris...there's a lot, but we've settled for Rissy, thanks to Mia_Fey. :P


Oh, I don't know. Just because we've had the conversation once doesn't mean we can't discuss it again. New people bring new ideas and suggestions which is great. Besides, there never really was a consensus as I recall. I know there were several people who commented that they weren't overly fond of "Rissy." Thanks for suggesting the topic, Magatama Maya. It's very much appreciated. :) It's true that I'm partial to "Rissy," but I'm clearly more then a bit biased since I thought it up originally and used it in my fics. Any other thoughts on this (or any other topics) are welcome. :shoe:


And that fic seems like it'll be interesting. I'm looking forward to seeing it progress.
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So that's what the pairing's called, Phoenris. I think it's SUPER KAWAII and they should definately be together!
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