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I want Apollo to have some development, he feels too much like Pheonix right now, maybe they should give him a big moral choice that's eerily similar to one Phoenix faced and he chooses opposite of how Phoenix chose. Oh, and I want a true rival for Apollo, a prosecutor that's Apollo's Edgeworth.

Plus I'd like as much science/DS stuff as 4-2 had FOR THE WHOLE GAME and more 3-D crime recreations. And I want to be able to present profiles again.

And it would be really awesome if I could use perceive outside of court.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Odoroki
Here is the information of GS5.
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Here is the information of GS5.


Somehow, I'm not entirely convinced by that since there's no mention of Apollo anywhere.

Sorry. :keiko-sad:
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An ex-Gavinners as the prosecutor :will: then he decided to take revenge on Polly because hethinks Klavier disbanded the band because of him. lawl moar revenge!
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I think the idea of Phoenix getting amnesia during case 1 of JFA could be re-used well in the Apollo Justice arc, if they make it quite epic.

By this, I mean Apollo should get amnesia, but it should be linked heavily with the final case. I think that Apollo should learn of some very dangerous information about someone introduced in the game, and he's about to do good and expose them in court, however before he made it to the Court house, he was severely attacked and the attacker thought he was dead, so they left him. However, he was simply knocked out cold, and when he recovered, he gained amnesia. However, instead of Phoenix, he should stay with amnesia until case 4, where he shakes it off and remembers the vital information he learned before, which he then successfully uses in that final case and exposes the attacker's dark secret.

I also think there should be a new character (not a Prosecutor, just an important figure over several cases) who should be someone from Apollo's orphanage who knows a lot more about him than he's letting on. And perhaps the fourth case should be about an unsolved murder that happened at the orphanage, that Apollo witnessed at the age of, lets say, 8 or 9, so it would re-introduce the concept of the "Statute of Limitations" into the Apollo Justice arc.

I'd be satisfied either way if we could learn more about Apollo's past.
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It would be nice if they made some kind of huge non canon extra case that involves all reoccurring PW characters and all reoccurring AJ characters. It would be a comedy thing. Like that TGS trailer of the first game coming to DS
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And it just happened to be a hit and run.......
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Shelly De Killer's successor/apprentice?

I mean, he had to get one eventually.
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Whoa.

A :payne: / :shelly: pairing went through my head....
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I think the idea of Phoenix getting amnesia during case 1 of JFA could be re-used well in the Apollo Justice arc, if they make it quite epic.

By this, I mean Apollo should get amnesia, but it should be linked heavily with the final case. I think that Apollo should learn of some very dangerous information about someone introduced in the game, and he's about to do good and expose them in court, however before he made it to the Court house, he was severely attacked and the attacker thought he was dead, so they left him. However, he was simply knocked out cold, and when he recovered, he gained amnesia. However, instead of Phoenix, he should stay with amnesia until case 4, where he shakes it off and remembers the vital information he learned before, which he then successfully uses in that final case and exposes the attacker's dark secret.


Apollo getting amnesia in the first case is sorta OK...but not the whole game. If that happens we'll get Trucy holding Apollo's hand throughout the entire game....and I don't want to see that happen. :wall-bang:
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I think real poeple (Actors/Celebrities) should appear in the game with their names...
J-just an idea...
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I think real poeple (Actors/Celebrities) should appear in the game with their names...
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Ryu wrote:
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I think real poeple (Actors/Celebrities) should appear in the game with their names...
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Regarding character development... a love triangle has been strongly suggested between Klavier, Ema and Apollo (look at the art for instance)... if the Gavinner's still around they might very well build on that. (After all, love wasn't very important in PW1 nor in PW2... but both PW3 and AJ used it a lot in order to trigger the plot and developt the characters.) Of course, if they want to avoid any aftertaste of soap-opera they sould make it as relevant and ambiguous as possible.
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O.o, well to me it doesn't really matter alot what will happen in the new game, even if some characters would be overused or whatsoever, as long as I can play the game and it's fun, I'm setled.

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Although one thing I'd love to see is: Atleast one case where you're Phoenix just after he finished his Bar Exam, or maybe a case whilst still in the progress of his Bar Exam, no? I mean it would be cool to play a fresh from the exams Phoenix tbh, I mean it's easy to do, I mean they can just have Odoroki and Co. on absence, or the other way around? That Phoenix takes the Bar Exam in like Germany? (Franziska plx.) after he passed his exam he would be confronted with the fact that he's currently the only available attorney willing to defend the defendant (a la PW: AA Case 2, with the Redd White stuff) so Phoenix decides to take on the case having to face... Franny? (I don't know after JFA she started to work overseas, no? So maybe a new prosecutor only in that particular case?) the case itself would either be the first of the series (a la tutorial cases) or the last one making a big fuss over it and having it say at the end of the case (and thus the game) Phoenix: 'This was surely interesting, the whole juridical system has changed alot since I quit law, I like it, I might keep up with it' ? I mean sure alot don't want to see Phoenix back as they want more Odoroki, that's okay, me too! :D But I do hope they would do something with Phoenix like that, it would really cheer me up for not beng able to play with Nick. :P

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the ability to play as :odoroki: :hobohodo: and :minuki:
Think! there might be a peace of evidence that only :minuki: can use, or a place that only :hobohodo: can get into. here's what I think.
:hobohodo: can enter into the restraunts and is good at poker
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also, more :psycho-lock: :psycho-lock: :psycho-lock: :psycho-lock: :psycho-lock:
the only one in AJ was
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speaking of which, maybe :odoroki: gets the :magatama-spin:

^this.

and payne as the 'tutorial' prosecutor.
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I want one case where you actually have to defend Winston Payne. Other than his unique taste for hairstyles and his previous nickname of "Rookie Crusher", I don't really know much about him, and I think his personality would turn to become a great defendant.

For this case, I think the crime should take place in his neighborhood, where apparently, he's quite the local hero. Whenever one of his neighbors talk highly of him, Apollo simply shrugs. If they take Payne outside the Prosecutor's bench, I think he has the potential to become quite a lovable character.
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I don't really know much about him, and I think his personality would turn to become a great defendant.


Plus the irony would be oh-so-wonderful if you were somehow defending the guy with Apollo, but you'd have to indict Wright because he's the one who framed Payne.

....actually that'd just be twisted.
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Coppo wrote:
I think the idea of Phoenix getting amnesia during case 1 of JFA could be re-used well in the Apollo Justice arc, if they make it quite epic.

By this, I mean Apollo should get amnesia, but it should be linked heavily with the final case. I think that Apollo should learn of some very dangerous information about someone introduced in the game, and he's about to do good and expose them in court, however before he made it to the Court house, he was severely attacked and the attacker thought he was dead, so they left him. However, he was simply knocked out cold, and when he recovered, he gained amnesia.


Perhaps he'd get tazered and shot in the shoulder outside of the courtroom, then fall off of a burning bridge?

No wait...
That may not work.
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However, instead of Phoenix, he should stay with amnesia until case 4, where he shakes it off and remembers the vital information he learned before, which he then successfully uses in that final case and exposes the attacker's dark secret.


So, only short term memory loss then? I guess it wouldn't be super serious then. Maybe a hit in the head with a pole or something...

And it seems the first case would end prematurely, then the last case would be almost DL-6/SL-9 like in it's continuation of an earlier case.
Except you were there both times...

Maybe more 4-4 style then...
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I've been pondering the issue of settings for the cases. A good backdrop can work wonders for a case, after all. One of the reasons the first case of AJ was so absorbing was the seedy atmosphere of the Borscht Bowl Club. Hazakura Temple was a good place for the murder, even if it did lead to having to show the Weather Data about 10 times (or maybe because of that fact) and Drew Studio was interesting, especially with the music. So where do you think the murders in the next game should take place?
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How about another filler case involving an important figure or star getting murdered directly?

But here's the thing, with the media breaking out all the drama and sad news it comes to the twist to find out it's only their twin or double that was murdered. The double was constantly switched back and forth with the real person in events under their name. No one is aware of this, except the bodyguard/higher official.
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Watatata~! wrote:
How about another filler case involving an important figure or star getting murdered directly?

But here's the thing, with the media breaking out all the drama and sad news it comes to the twist to find out it's only their twin or double that was murdered. The double was constantly switched back and forth with the real person in events under their name. No one is aware of this, except the bodyguard/higher official.


You mean like 1-3, where star Jack Hammer gets pushed directly, but there's really a switch in the murder scene, and no-one knows Dee Vasquez even exists? Except with a role reversal with Dee and Jack?

Except there are TWO JACKS?

Okay.
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Coppo wrote:
I want one case where you actually have to defend Winston Payne. Other than his unique taste for hairstyles and his previous nickname of "Rookie Crusher", I don't really know much about him, and I think his personality would turn to become a great defendant.

For this case, I think the crime should take place in his neighborhood, where apparently, he's quite the local hero. Whenever one of his neighbors talk highly of him, Apollo simply shrugs. If they take Payne outside the Prosecutor's bench, I think he has the potential to become quite a lovable character.


That would be quite a departure for the series, but I think it has potential. I know Payne acts like a jerk in court, but he's made sympathetic by how hopeless he is, and I think it would be interesting to bring another angle to him.
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I don't feel like going through 35 pages to see if my ideas were added but...

1. Ability to use the percieve system outside of the court.
-Be nice to pull the truth from people in GS5 outside of the court like how Phoenix did with the Psyche Locks.

2. Give the Judge/Winston better detailed sprites.
-If you compare their sprites to the other characters you'd see what I mean.

3. Something other than a murder case?
-I know this would be a departure from the game to, but look at the 2nd case in T&T and the whole jewel robbery. That had potential...

4. Returning characters from PW 1-3
-Why not?
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Coppo wrote:
I think the idea of Phoenix getting amnesia during case 1 of JFA could be re-used well in the Apollo Justice arc, if they make it quite epic.

By this, I mean Apollo should get amnesia, but it should be linked heavily with the final case. I think that Apollo should learn of some very dangerous information about someone introduced in the game, and he's about to do good and expose them in court, however before he made it to the Court house, he was severely attacked and the attacker thought he was dead, so they left him. However, he was simply knocked out cold, and when he recovered, he gained amnesia. However, instead of Phoenix, he should stay with amnesia until case 4, where he shakes it off and remembers the vital information he learned before, which he then successfully uses in that final case and exposes the attacker's dark secret.


Apollo getting amnesia in the first case is sorta OK...but not the whole game. If that happens we'll get Trucy holding Apollo's hand throughout the entire game....and I don't want to see that happen. :wall-bang:


Agreed. I'm not really fond of the idea of Apollo getting amnesia anyway.. it's already happened once to Phoenix, and I'm sure there are plenty of alternatives.

Okay so if Apollo was fixing to expose this newly introduced character in court, but then lost his memory.... but then regained it and exposed this person in the fourth case, does that mean this person would be put on trial twice...? That just seems a little far-fetched to me. Unless it was a situation similar to Dahlia's. But having Apollo lose his memory by being struck, and then having a villain that escaped court once and then was finally caught (like Dahlia)... it's all too similar to Phoenix Wright.

Plus, I would rather not play a brain-dead Apollo throughout the entire game xD. I personally don't think he was put in the spotlight enough in AJ1, and this would just make it less likely to see his character develop.
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As awesome it would be for Polly to have amnesia, I'd say I'd Marloch here. In GS4, we barely know anything about Apollo except

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That he's Trucy's half-brother, thus making him a Graymare. And that his father died a year after he was born, but we have no idea what his fate was after that.


Yeah.. Nothing much there. Polly's past could be like this..

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Apollo came to live with his mother, Thallassa( :gipsy: ) after his father died and Magnifi saw that he could have a heir this way, so he did everything he could just to make Polly a magician. Apollo performed as an innocent child magician starting at the age of 6 with the stage name "Red Graymare"(I'm uncreative and contradicting, so sue me XD) and was good at magic which obviously made him a hit along with the other Graymares. Although Polly was an excellent magician for a child, he hated it and did not want to carry on the Graymare name, which brought him in many conflicts with his grandfather. One day, at the age of 8, Apollo was taken to a flea market after another conflict with Magnifi, where he saw a mysterious merchant selling strange goods. When Apollo asked what the merchant was selling, the merchant immediately brought out a glass vial saying that this vial will grant all of the boy's wishes. Being the innocent boy he was, he bought it and hid it until the time was right. Then, Apollo was taken home where he was to prepare for a show. Five minutes before the boy was to go on stage, he took out the vial and drank it(You know what that means, right?) with the wish "Please let me be what I want.." And after those five minutes, he went on stage. And then the Graymares started off by making Polly do the first performance. Ten minutes passed when he started, and all of a sudden, he coughed up blood. Everything went into a panic, hospitals were being called, shocked faces everywhere. While everyone was in a panic, Apollo was just kneeling down, coughing up blood, his now blood stained white gloves covering his mouth. Instead of the intention of preventing blood from spewing, it was the intention of covering a maniac-like smile(Polly is not insane) spreading onto his lips. When the time was up, he fell with his final words, "This.. Is.. My.. Wish.." And was thought to be dead on that day.


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B.M. wrote:
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How about another filler case involving an important figure or star getting murdered directly?

But here's the thing, with the media breaking out all the drama and sad news it comes to the twist to find out it's only their twin or double that was murdered. The double was constantly switched back and forth with the real person in events under their name. No one is aware of this, except the bodyguard/higher official.


You mean like 1-3, where star Jack Hammer gets pushed directly, but there's really a switch in the murder scene, and no-one knows Dee Vasquez even exists? Except with a role reversal with Dee and Jack?

Except there are TWO JACKS?

Okay.

Wait...wut? o___o
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I feel ignored... Anyways, so big stars are always going to get murdered in filler cases? There's no love for them..

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Jack Hammer, Russel Berry(He was a ringmaster who was loved by everyone, and had multiple talents so it counts), Juan Corrida, Misty Fey, Zak Graymare(Or should I say Shadi Enigmar or Shadi Smith?), Magnifi Graymare, Romein LeTouse, ect.


Do you think that all big shot stars in the Ace Attorney world are destined to be put in jail or murdered?
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Well most of them were unfortunately fated to be jackasses so...
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Nice avie and siggy.. *Cough* Anyways, yeah... Some of the victims were jerks, so that's true..
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And Sklar will die happy.


The victum of hair loss, FTW.

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Meh... killing off Meekins would be the equivalent of some nutcase rushing into the courtroom and capping both Phoenix and Edgeworth in the head.
Who kills off the idiot comedy relief?! That's like right up there with killing children and pets.

*Is an AVID Meekins fan*

Besides, since :eh?: likes :maggy:.... and she's a bad luck magnet... not like it's been overdone or anything ^_^


Meekins is pretty funny, but he is included very little.

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Hence, PW:AA Case 5 and AJ:AA Case 4 in the Mason System

Sorry to quote something old, but in the Gyakuten Kenji trailer, you can(fairly)clearly see Meekins's saluting silhouette rushing past the screen. It got me about 10x more excited than I already was. :DDDDD

I don't have any canon-worthy "ideas", per se, but as for what I'd like...

Character development, fleshed-out "bonus systems"(i.e. luminol, KGK investigations, etc), and an interesting, functioning plot is all I ask for. :garyuu:

Ever since I realized why I despised/rejected AJ and why it's actually a wonderful new development, I think all I ask for is a working, interesting, full plot(with a few bonuses, perhaps...), nowadays. XD

Edit: ....And Meekins is not "idiot comic relief". :C At least, in MY opinion...
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I have been reading around this thread and people keep saying "no, they [certain past characters] cant be in the game. They have no relation to Apollo." or something along the lines. But do they really need to be related to Apollo? I mean, when a new character is introduced, are they really related to him in anyway. When Trucy was introduced, was there truly a relation between Apollo? Yeah she handed him forged evidence, but thats a very small relation. that's like me passing you by and giving you a cookie. Then we have a relation in someway.

If they introduce an old character, say Maya for instance; yes she has no relation to him, yet. She is related to Phoenix, but isn't that more of a reason to bring her back?

Does this all make sense? I am notorious for explaining things poorly. :yogi:
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