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(I haven't seen this topic before, and if it has been made before I apologize. xD)

Mmkay. So i've always been wondering this.

Is Trilo Ben's "inner feelings?" (Like an Inner Sakura type thing, y'know) or is Trilo a separate "person" altogether? Because Ben showed no interest in Regina, but Trilo was in love with her. So if Trilo is Ben's inner feelings tat means Ben really loves Regina? Meekins

Or if Trilo is a completely different "person" then why does he even need Ben?

Personally I think Trilo is Ben's "Inner Sakura" but I could be wrong.
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I think that Max sums it up in one statement.

Pshhh... There is no Ben or Trilo. There is only one Benjamin Goodman.
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I believe Trilo is controlled by someone other than Ben.
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I believe Trilo is controlled by someone other than Ben.

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I knew Shoe had something to do with it!

I think Trilo's either the inner feelings of Ben, or he just a character Ben made up and plays out.
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I think Trilo's either the inner feelings of Ben, or he just a character Ben made up and plays out.
That's probably it. He seems like the "imaginary friend" type.
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I think Ben's just too shy to be himself without his puppet :/ Although Trilo seems a bit...extreme to be the real Ben. If that were the case Ben would be extremely rude, not to mention a pedophile. I think it's partly Ben being himself, but it's also like how Max never acts like himself: He's a performer. Trilo is like his stage persona, just like how Max's stage persona is saying Fabulous all the time.
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He's a performer. Trilo is like his stage persona, just like how Max's stage persona is saying Fabulous all the time.

That makes the most sense. I don't think people with split personalities can "split" themselves like that. They have to be one or the other.
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Perhaps Ben took a blow to the noggin one several too many times.
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I wouldn't doubt it if Trillo was Ben's inner feelings, as nasty as the little bugger may be. Though I personally think that Ben is just putting on one heck of a show. We know that Moe can actually be serious at times, but that didn't stop him from acting like a complete dofus in court.
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My post from the other thread.

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Why do I think of Calvin and Hobbes when I think of Ben and Trilo? O_o

Anyway.

Gotta agree with you guys. I always thought that Ben was just too shy, so he used a puppet to convey his feelings. But if stuff like spirit mediums and psyche-locks can exist, Trilo COULD be his own entity too.


I don't see why not. The circus characters are kinda messed up in their own, fun way. That's why I like case 2-3 so much. <3

Or it really could be a stage persona. Eh. Either works for me.
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He's a performer. Trilo is like his stage persona, just like how Max's stage persona is saying Fabulous all the time.

That makes the most sense. I don't think people with split personalities can "split" themselves like that. They have to be one or the other.


Meh. Obviously you've never watched Naruto with all the inner Sakura scenes, then. xD
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He's a performer. Trilo is like his stage persona, just like how Max's stage persona is saying Fabulous all the time.

That makes the most sense. I don't think people with split personalities can "split" themselves like that. They have to be one or the other.


Meh. Obviously you've never watched Naruto with all the inner Sakura scenes, then. xD


Sakura doesn't have a split personality, though :/ She just acts polite because 1. Politeness is good 2. she wants people to get the idea of politeness from her. It's just the way she acts. Inner Sakura is just her emotional reactions to things--everybody has insant emotional reactions to things that they don't act on Basically, "Inner Sakura" is the same as all real people--we think one thing and we say another.

As for Trilo being a separate entity, that's not possible. Yes, I know this is a game with spirit mediums, but he only started talking when Ben was holding him. I still stand by Trilo being Ben's stage persona, but also something like the Inner Sakura--Trilo says all of Ben's instinctive thoughts, the things that we think about people but usually don't say for the sake of politeness.
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Man. I need to get a filter on my "Inner Sakura" because I say what I think, polite or non-polite.

Anyway, I think that Trilo is a way for Ben to express himself. I don't think that Ben is that rude (Trilo), or that shy (Ben.) Trilo is a way to gather attention, to make people notice him.
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Maybe he's like Tony from the Shining? (The little boys finger buddy!)
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Or maybe when Ben was only ten years old, he was raped and beaten by a Toy Store owner in the store. He then beat said owner over the head to death with Trilo, causing his brain to snap and turn into a complete nutcase, using the Murder weapon to relay his inner feelings. Inside, he plans to murder each and every person who's ever given him a dirty look.


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Perhaps Trilo is a cursed puppet who originally belonged to a murdered ventriloquist and their grudge seeped into the puppet and it became another entity altogether...

He's going to kill them all in their sleep. O_O
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Sakura doesn't have a split personality, though :/ She just acts polite because 1. Politeness is good 2. she wants people to get the idea of politeness from her. It's just the way she acts. Inner Sakura is just her emotional reactions to things--everybody has insant emotional reactions to things that they don't act on Basically, "Inner Sakura" is the same as all real people--we think one thing and we say another.

As for Trilo being a separate entity, that's not possible. Yes, I know this is a game with spirit mediums, but he only started talking when Ben was holding him. I still stand by Trilo being Ben's stage persona, but also something like the Inner Sakura--Trilo says all of Ben's instinctive thoughts, the things that we think about people but usually don't say for the sake of politeness.

If that were true, why was Inner Sakura able to give Ino a headache inside Sakura's body?

To be honest, I believe that it's the same as Scarface in the latest Batman series. Only not as severe as Trilo isn't a gangster-style criminal, but they are similar in that Trilo picks on Ben.
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Perhaps Trilo is a cursed puppet who originally belonged to a murdered ventriloquist and their grudge seeped into the puppet and it became another entity altogether...

He's going to kill them all in their sleep. O_O


I'm lovin' that idea. xD
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Interesting question. I thought the same way too. I'd say, like many in this topic, that Ben's just too shy to be like Trillo.
Though it doesn't really benefit Ben in anyway. After all, after Trillo saying to Max that he was going to marry Regina, Max hit Ben. So, Ben might as well ditch the puppet and come out with it himself.

But Ben does show little interest in what Trillo's doing.
Perhaps it's just good acting? XD
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Perhaps it's just good acting? XD


Good?

You can see his lips moving! XD
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Personally, I'm pretty sure it's a split personailty. And although personalities can't normally be splt that way, this isn't realistic.

Although, it's not entirely foolish to suggest that it's only an act. It could actually not be an act, but Ben's way of expressing himself. When he speaks through the puppet, he could be more confident. That's how I am with the internet, after all...
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I think Bens too shy to talk himself, so he expresses himself via trilo :ben:
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What Inner Sakura is is just a machination of Sakura's real feelings, and what she really thinks about what is going on. Sakura waned Ino out of her body so badly, that Inner Sakura was able to fend off Ino. Inner Sakura goes away more as Sakura gets more comfortable with herself as a person and her abilities.

(Before this gets turned into a Naruto discussion...)
I agree with the Inner Sakura theory the most. The objective of a ventriloquist is to make the audience believe that the puppet is something more then a puppet. Therefore, where Ben is shy and stuttering all the time, Trilo is active and loud. What Trilo says is just what Ben really thinks, but said through a puppet.
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So if you were stuck on an island with just Ben, would he drop the shyness and the stuttering?
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Hmm, that's kind of a tough one. I never questioned it when I was playing the game though, mostly because that entire case was completely loony - in all the best ways of course xP

Thinking back on it though...hmm. It seems odd to me for them to keep up the act outside the stage, and for Ben to punch himself in the face with his own puppet and of course for the act to hinder Ben's own social skills far beyond a normal shy person.

So in my humble opinion, Trilo is basically a way for Ben to let his more loud-mouted and more angry side out there. Huh, I had something to add there but it's totally left my head. If I remember I'll edit this post.
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i think emmsy hit the nail on the head with this one. it might seem out of place but Trilo is the manefestation of bens feeling's maybe like how some ppl love to talk big behind a screen and such.
as for ben getting hit by the said puppet. i dont think its a matter of he wants to hit himself or not but the puppet is a husk to house his other persona so.....you have one persona taking it out on another
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I think that when Ben joined the circus nobody talked to him, so he used Trilo as an excuse to engage in conversation with other people. He did this to the point that he is became Trilo more than Trilo became Ben, because people will actually talk to and about Trilo. Ben never gets talked to or even about, so he thinks that he is only worth something through Trilo.
And just look at everyone else...Regina and Moe both seem to have bought it, they speak only of Trilo, they hardly even recognize Ben when you present his profile to them. Without Trilo, he feels like he is gone, and thats why he never talks when he is alone.
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Trilio is just like Mr. Hat, he is the pent up feelings and opinions that their owners (Ben and Mr. Garrison) feel.
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Trilio is just like Mr. Hat, he is the pent up feelings and opinions that their owners (Ben and Mr. Garrison) feel.


THAT'S what I was going to say! xD; My mind kinda drew a blank on it though. Yep. Mr Garrison and Mr Hat type thing really. Without the whole homosexual issues and the fact Mr Hat seems to be totally sentient.
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Why does Ben let Trilo hit him then?
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as for ben getting hit by the said puppet. i dont think its a matter of he wants to hit himself or not but the puppet is a husk to house his other persona so.....you have one persona taking it out on another


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Oh right.
Still. What makes Trilo explode? O.o
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Trilo's head got blow off so many times it made me wonder how it kept coming back.
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Trilo's head got blow off so many times it made me wonder how it kept coming back.

Dude, that bugged me so much during the trial I seriously got pissed off at the game because when he first blew up I was like FINALLY and then...hes back and Im like OH NOES and this happens OVER and OVER again AND THEN...Moe takes the stand and I really consider sending capcom hate mail for the third case unti I meets acro and everythings better and then I met Matt Engarde and everythings WIN :edgy:
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Personally, I think Trilo is an way of speaking. For example... Some people find it hard to express themselves, so they find other ways to do it. I use a pen and paper/keyboard, myself. But that's down to personal preference.

In this, Benuses Trilo.
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I believe it's split personality disorder.
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