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hello there, maybe this thread already made in past time, first I apologize if that happen.

however, the main topic for this discussion is who you hoped be a pair with main character?
I don't know if GS5 main character is Phoenix Wright or Apollo Justice, but let we think all possibilities. (hope Capcom doesn't make new attorney for GS5 :gant: )

Are you hoping
1. :phoenix: / :ayame: ?
2. :phoenix: / :maya: ?

or you may choose to :
3 > hope for love scene doesn't take place at all
4 > hanged (we don't know what gonna happen like they did in T&T)
5 > another character?

sorry for being small scaled, but your reply would be appreciated :shoe:
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Well, I'm a :phoenix: / :edgeworth: fan, but I know it's not going to happen explicitly.

Honestly, I don't think Capcom will place an explicit love scene; they would alienate the fan base that ships Phoenix with whomever he is not presented with. They know that. GS3 already had several hints of fanservice that could be interpreted to be in favor of multiple pairings.
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Oh God not Thalassa. She really isn't for Phoenix.

Anyway, for Maya I'd be very happy.
For any others, not so much. I like Iris as a character and liked the Feenie x Iris relationship, but by T&T that is over (for me it is).

But my guess is that there won't be any love scene at all. I mean there are 3 very large groups, Phoenix x Maya shippers, Phoenix x Iris shippers, and Phoenix x Edgeworth (meh) shippers.
By making on of the 3 canon, it would disappoint the other 2 and Capcom doesn't risk that.
Also, GS5 should really be more about Apollo and less about Phoenix. I really really want to see Maya and Pearl in GS5 but only as minor, not central characters.
A little conversation like this should be enough in a case that somehow involves Maya:

Apollo: What, that "kid" sent you another bunch of cartoon DVDs?
Phoenix: Well, she's not really a kid. Only by heart. Isn't it a wonderful thing, keeping your childhood in your heart forever?
Apollo: I guess so. Who is she, if I may ask?
Phoenix: Maya Fey. I could go in detail about her, but let's just say... she is a very special someone to me.

It's not more than all those hints in T&T, and I can even see it happening.
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I don't really like the Phoenix/Maya pairing, but I will go for Maya if it's possible...(because P/E is officially impossible to be canon...;_;)

Maya is cute and helpful, and I'm sure she must has grown a lot in the seven years, which will probably make her more acceptable to be Phoenix's girlfriend.

Iris...I just don't like her at all.囧
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....Shouldn't this be in the GS5 subforum?
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Well, I'm a :phoenix: / :edgeworth: fan, but I know it's not going to happen explicitly.

Honestly, I don't think Capcom will place an explicit love scene; they would alienate the fan base that ships Phoenix with whomever he is not presented with. They know that. GS3 already had several hints of fanservice that could be interpreted to be in favor of multiple pairings.


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This is exactly how I feel as well. Down to the shipping.

I don't think they'll pair Phoenix with anyone just because of the multiple pairing possibilities, and the disappointment that would occur if they did pair Phoenix with someone. They want to make all the fans happy, so it's probably just best to leave it ambiguous.
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Maya.

However, since we don't even know what capacity Phoenix will appear in [or at all] in GS5, it's unlikely they'll have anything definite or Mia/Diegoesque. Of course, I would personally love a hint....

3-5 took the very obvious policy of keeping all shipping options open, which was an intelligent and totally justifiable decision. Of course, we don't know what policy the writers now take with the new arc. Though it's probably in their best interests to retain the 3-5 policy. Really, they should just throw out a few hints which could be interpreted as P/M, P/E etc... [Which would also help to offset their 'disappearance' in game 4.]

Now, people mention there was some kind of official proclamation P/E would never happen. When was this?

BTW, if they make Phoenix end up with Thalassa in some cheesy forced stupidity I will... uh I'd better not say. :chinami:

Iris was heavily implied in 3-5 as over.

So, they should just have Phoenix move to Kurain with Maya, where he practices a legal consulting firm with Edgeworth [it's the future, so they can telecommute and stuff] and Iris can visit [since she is, after all, Pearl's sister.] People can ship who they want. One of the biggest problems with GS4 is that the triumvirate of Phoenix pairings had all suspiciously vanished ;_;
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....Shouldn't this be in the GS5 subforum?


You are right. :headbang: Sorry for my dullness.*moved*

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This is exactly how I feel as well. Down to the shipping.

I don't think they'll pair Phoenix with anyone just because of the multiple pairing possibilities, and the disappointment that would occur if they did pair Phoenix with someone. They want to make all the fans happy, so it's probably just best to leave it ambiguous.


Poor Nick...he has to stay single. That's great.
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I don't see how Nick and Thalassa can't be together. There's a 7 year gap between them, yeah, but that's definitely not impossible (Both of my grandfathers are older than my grandmas, and both sets are still together.) They seem to get on well, both have Trucy's interests at heart (mostly anyway) and I think it just fits.

Maya seems more like Nicks little sister, Iris is too sickly sweet and it's too far in his past, and I aint a fan of yaoi pairings. (Sorry Edgey).
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Nobody in Ace Attorney will ever end up with someone unless they were a couple before their appearance. They'll all die alone. Especially gumshoe.
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Gumshoe has Maggey. And it's canon.

Anyway, making Phoenix x Thalassa canon would be a big slap in the fact for the fans of any pairings that include Phoenix (which is about 90% of the fans and Capcom won't risk it).
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火曜日 wrote:
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....Shouldn't this be in the GS5 subforum?


You are right. :headbang: Sorry for my dullness.*moved*


whoops, my bad. thx for actions :keiko:


thalasa? never even thought about that :yuusaku: , for my personal opinion, aren't they age gap too far? but physically it can be a good pair too, i guess :hotti:

well, in my point of view, if central character changed from :phoenix: into :odoroki: , i guess the risk everybody talked in earlier post, will grandly reduced. Because the main story will play around Apollo, not Wright anymore. I mean, people will directed by Capcom to love Apollo, and wait for his future action. For Wright, people just stay tuned for his stories (better than untold :keiko: ). If GS5 is about :odoroki: , maybe it's the time for Capcom to advancing Wright's side story. (maybe....)

many games similiar to GS had point their main character's pair. hopefully this game would able to satisfy their fan with great story that not disappoint any shippers :uramidn:
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I don't care/want there to be any canon pairings.

And the pairings I liked with Phoenix (lol only 2) will never happen in the game for obvious reasons 8D
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I ship :phoenix: / :maya: , but I really hope Phoenix doesn't get together with anyone, since there so many popular pairings for him and fans would surely be disappointed if their pair did not become canon.
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As far as I'm concerned, some AA fans might need a slap in the face... XD *runs off quickly before skewered*

But seriously though, A lot of people see Maya as Nicks proto-sister rather than his lover. So if that went canon, there'd be probems. Same with the slash pairing. So yeah, they won't pair him with anyone.

But that doesn't mean I cant consider Thalassa to be a better match for him. If you all weren't so set in your ways you could at least seriously consider the idea; it has been 7 long years for him and all that. :)
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Being set in my ways doesn't have anything to do with my not liking Phoenix/Thalassa. Even if Phoenix didn't already have other potential partners, I couldn't see it.

With Maya, Edgeworth, and Iris, there's some degree of chemistry between them and Phoenix that could make them work as a couple. In Thalassa's case, the only thing I see between them is...
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Hey, Thalassa is Apollo and Trucy's mom, and Phoenix is taking care of Apollo and Trucy! That means Phoenix and Thalassa should hook up! For the kids!

That just doesn't work for me. :yuusaku:
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I don't want them to ever pair anyone together, unless the story calls for it. Especially not someone like Phoenix. Kinda takes the fun out of shipping a relationship- he's with another character. And it's cannon.
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Szabu wrote:
Gumshoe has Maggey. And it's canon.

Anyway, making Phoenix x Thalassa canon would be a big slap in the fact for the fans of any pairings that include Phoenix (which is about 90% of the fans and Capcom won't risk it).


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LoL poor Gumshoe and his weinies probably will die alone.

Honestly, I feel that they will never pair him with anyone for the above stated reasons. You'll lose your fanbase, and they certainly know who's shipping who with each other.

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also, Thalassa fails ALL her children (even little orphan ones). If I were Phoenix, I'd keep those kids FAR away from her as possible! It's a bit too late to pretend to be mommy, now.

Haha, as a mom myself, I get bitter about things like that. She's horrid, lol..

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The game isn't written for shippers. In the AA series, love interests are secondary.
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Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
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Hey, Thalassa is Apollo and Trucy's mom, and Phoenix is taking care of Apollo and Trucy! That means Phoenix and Thalassa should hook up! For the kids!


Doesn't work for me, either, since I get the sinking feeling...
Spoiler: GS5?
...that Thalassa will die before she gets the chance to tell Trucy and Apollo - much like how Misty Fey died - and it'll be left up to Phoenix.


And as a note, I'd love for it to be hinted at that in GS5, Phoenix goes to visit Maya during one of the cases, meaning poor ol' Polly has to man up and do it himself (with Trucy, of course.) :minuki:

And then maybe we could see this Older Maya...]

*coughcough*

In any case... yes, they should hint as Nick/Maya just as they did with his other games, maybe 'strongly imply' it? :kissy:
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I strongly believe in Nick/Maya :kissy:
Hmmm... as for
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Lamiroir dying = Misty dying, a horrible thought like that crossed my mind too.

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i'm wondering if you're aware of just what the community ships for the most part :0 because personally i'm hoping he won't end up with a "girlfriend" at all

but yes, as my bff hh so nicely put it: no one in GS will get paired with anyone else unless they're together before they are introduced. there is no love in this series, ever. everyone is lonely and alone.
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@gozu
not really, first case is :eh?: , in the end he paired with :maggy: , 2nd case :mia: paired with :godot:
hope there is more surprise for new series :keiko:

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aggred, there was many chance the love scene to developed but it never happened :sadshoe:


well, see, :hobohodo: in GS4 is actually, what, 33? if Capcom doesn't want to ruin their fan's hope, there are 2 way :
1. not use :hobohodo: character anymore :larry:
2. let his story untold or made him never married :larry:
well, i don't expect in GS5 or maybe GS6, :phoenix: will reach 40 without girlfriend :keiko:


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well, IMO, if GS5 central character changed to Apollo, fan wouldn't mind who Wright's girlfriend (well, maybe a little bit). Because there are new hero, :odoroki:
they've done it with :youngmia: , so will Capcom do it with Wright too? possible :gant:
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gumshoe/maggey: it was only implied that something happened between them, not stated that they got together :U and diego/mia were together already; they just explained how it came about in the backstory.
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Gozu wrote:
gumshoe/maggey: it was only implied that something happened between them, not stated that they got together :U and diego/mia were together already; they just explained how it came about in the backstory.


Godot/Mia : they told the stories in GS3, meanwhile Mia had her own fans based on GS1 & GS2
The main point is not "when Diego/Mia goint out" but "when Capcom told their story". It never told or even hinted in GS1 or GS2 that Mia had boyfriend before.
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Godot/Mia : they told the stories in GS3, meanwhile Mia had her own fans based on GS1 & GS2
The main point is not "when Diego/Mia goint out" but "when Capcom told their story". It never told or even hinted in GS1 or GS2 that Mia had boyfriend before.


Mainly because she was dead (mostly, anyway) and therefore didn't get much time for a backstory... that, and I bet they weren't planning to anyway, at least until they started working on GS3... :yuusaku:
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I honestly don't know about Phoenix. I have trouble seeing him and Maya in love (they strike me more as extremely close friends than lovers), and the fact that Iris isn't present in Apollo Justice, from my perspective, implies that if she and Phoenix did fall in love again, the relationship ultimately failed. Were it my choice, I'd probably introduce a new character unless there was a way to get Iris to start dating Phoenix without there being too many issues with the past seven years.

If Franziska's the same "wild mare" she was in the previous games, then I think she should be single, dateless, and completely fine with it. Her personality doesn't strike me as that of someone who's interested in love.

I don't know what will happen between Gumshoe and Maggey. Maybe they'll fall in love and get married, maybe they'll never really get together, maybe they'll fall in love and eventually break up... I don't know, and any result is fine with me, though I'd certainly like to see them together.

I imagine that by the time Miles is in his thirties, he would have gotten married; he's calmed down considerably from the time of his first appearance, and I think it likely he would have found the right person to spend his life with by the time Apollo Justice takes place. Given the way the games have portrayed my favorite character, I would introduce a new character to be Mrs. Edgeworth were it my choice. Even though I like the idea of Miles and Lana dating, it strikes me as extremely unlikely. However, I definitely think that he should have a wedding ring on his finger if he appears in the next game.

As for Godot,
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Personally, I want to see Phoenix hook up with Adrian Andrews because someone needs to whip Phoenix's butt into shape and she's that kind of woman (and the idea of :hobohodo: x :ka-whip: is too scary for me to imagine).

It'll never happen of course, but....
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how if Capcom do pair Phoenix with someone in GS5, but she never be mentioned? or how if she's not from PW/AJ series? a totally new character? :yuusaku: his neighbor maybe....? :yuusaku:
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It'd be...interesting to see a new girlfriend by Phoenix being the victim, or the murderer.

Also, whoever says "Capcom won't do it because the fanbase will leave the franchise lawlz" is really misinformed.

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I don't support anybody with Phoenix, at least not anything even remotely canon except for maybe Phoenix/Franziska. But I would be extremely, extremely upset if they paired him with anyone, especially Maya. They're just too chummy to be lovers, in my humble opinion. Why can't they stay that way? It's When Harry Met Sally all over again, with the roles reversed. >> Honestly, why can't men and women stay friends, just like men and men/women and women? Does everything have to be in a shipping context? I'm a shipper myself, but I also strongly appreciate platonic love, too.
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riiight, but it become strange if he reached 35 without girlfriends, well it's common for some stories (like MGS) but for PW world, I guess it's better to paired main character with someone. Well, it doesn't need to be that clear, a little hint won't hurt :keiko:
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Someone asked upthread about whether or not P/E is officially non-canon, and unfortunately it's true. In the Top Secret podcast a while back, Matsukawa (the producer) was asked, "When are Phoenix and Edgeworth going to get together!?" and her answer was a very tactful "Never." So P/E will never be canon.

Not that that's going to stop me >:3

Anyway, to be honest I wouldn't ever want to see it happen in canon anyway. The AA series hasn't been all that great about showing a relationship as it's building. Ron/Dessie are already together when you meet them; Gumshoe/Maggey went right from the crush phase into a fight and was never fully resolved; Phoenix fell in love with Dahlia at first sight and acted like an idiot, never truly getting to know her. And of course Diego/Mia

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They start 3-4 as single, and get together sometime after the case that we never get to see. Through T&T Godot talks all the time about how he has to avenge Mia, but not too much about what their relationship was like or just how much he loved her. It's mostly implied due to his dedication to his vengence. And Mia barely comments on him at all. So we hardly get to know just what kind of relationship they had.


I think if they put Phoenix in a relationship in GS5 it might just feel kinda shoehorned in. If the game's from Apollo's point of view we wouldn't get to see anything really personal between Phoenix and a love interest (unless he becomes a spy!), so most likely it would be a "Oh, by the way, we're a couple!" kind of moment. And with love stories, if they don't have the time to really develop one, I'd rather not see it at all.

tl;dr, sorry :gregory:
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If the game's from Apollo's point of view we wouldn't get to see anything really personal between Phoenix and a love interest (unless he becomes a spy!)


That could make for a pretty great case actually.
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I doubt there'll be any pairing for Phoenix or Apollo at all, EVER, due to the atomic number of fanbases that would be destroyed by an officially canon pairing :yuusaku:
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Someone asked upthread about whether or not P/E is officially non-canon, and unfortunately it's true. In the Top Secret podcast a while back, Matsukawa (the producer) was asked, "When are Phoenix and Edgeworth going to get together!?" and her answer was a very tactful "Never." So P/E will never be canon.

Not that that's going to stop me >:3


*cries* :nixiesob:

Ah well, it won't stop me either. XD

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I doubt there'll be any pairing for Phoenix or Apollo at all, EVER, due to the atomic number of fanbases that would be destroyed by an officially canon pairing :yuusaku:


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Am I the only one who does want Iris to be back with Phoenix? :payne: *shot, speared, brick'd, skewered*

Eh, I honestly don't care that much. I just like Nick/Iris pairing. And while I would be happy if Capcom presented that (which they probably won't...), I'm not going to throw a complete hissy fit if they pair him with a) no one or b) someone else.

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Caelestis wrote:
Am I the only one who does want Iris to be back with Phoenix?

You're not the only one. If Capcom can work past the seven-year gap and still make such a relationship make sense, then I am in full support of such a relationship occurring. My only concern is that Capcom has essentially worked themselves into a corner by having Apollo Justice take place seven years after Trials and Tribulations with Phoenix still single and seemingly dateless. Working around that will be a challenge--though harder things have been pulled off, so it's not impossible.
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