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Why seven years?Topic%20Title
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Seriously, is there any reason for such a long time?
I mean, why didn't the creators just put Apollo Justice 3 or 4 years after PW3. Why seven years?
Isn't seven years way too much time for Phoenix completing his investigation, secret mission and so on?
Nothing, I mean, NOTHING else in the Ace Attorney world take this long.

It's sad... Phoenix deserved better after the PW trilogy.
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Have you even beat GS4 yet?
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That does not answer his question. Well, neither does this.
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Of course I did.
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If you beat it then why make this topic? Its very well explained during the game.
I mean, You couldn't have beaten it very well if you dont know why Phoenix had to wait seven years.
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I imagine it's to make time for Trucy to grow, yet be very young in the flashback case.

And Balrog: it isn't. It might as well be 4 years and they change the script to that.
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I would assume that it was partially to show just how screwed up the system was that such a great injustice could have gone on for so long and seven seems to have a lot of significance within the series as it shows up in several areas. I would also think it was to allow Ema and Trucy time to grow up some. Trucy had to be very young for her accidental part in Phoenix's disbarment because an older child would probably not have fallen for Kristoph's trick, but a friendly and outgoing young child probably would have done so. After all, she truly believed that she was helping when she handed that paper to Phoenix, but an older child would probably have been more wary of a stranger's request. Ema is only sixteen in 1-5 and needed time to grow up if she was to be the detective.

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Of course Phoenix had to wait seven years. But the creators could have made it 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, etc. years, too.
The number "7" really isn't that important.

What stopped them from setting the game closer to PW3, let's say, 4 years?
Yeah, Ema and Trucy only, I guess...

But Mia Fey, I like your "how screwed up the system was" explanation.
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If they had changed the Script to 4 years, We'd be here arguing in a topic complaining about why Phoenix had to wait 4 years for Justice.
They needed enough for it to seem believable (to a degree) that all the events had taken place. Also events that aren't in the game like Ema getting out of school and becoming a detective. Also Phoenix personality change, which also wouldn't happen in a couple days.
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I think they used seven years as the time limit because
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Zak was going to be declared legally dead and he had wanted to come back to give Trucy the magic rights to provide for her future. I'm not 100% sure, but I think 7 years in real life is also the limit to be declared legally dead.

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Yep, I think Pearls has got it. X3 It is 7 years for someone to be pronounced legally dead.
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I completely forgot about that.
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Well, Im glad we got that cleared up. :D
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I can remember this question was asked in some interview with one of the writers. And they went on about seven being a symbolic number and all that. [I agree though. Tooo loong for poor Phoenix to suffer.]

Anyone remember this article so we can have the official answer?
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7 is a symbolic/auspicious/unlucky/important number in a lot of cultures, so it's not that surprising that they picked it.

Personally, I'm glad they went that far, because it means that any returning characters have a chance to have a lot of growth. The first three games take place over 3 years, and Phoenix doesn't look any different from start to finish. So if they said AJ was only 3 years later, it might be weird to see him so drastically different.

(Of course, that's what they did with 3-1: I really didn't like that within only 3 years Phoenix went from a spastic cry baby to the laid back Phoenix we see in PW:AA)

But more than 5 years and suddenly it feels like a long time. You can really see in the game how time has changed Phoenix and Ema, and if more characters show up, it'll be really interesting to see how much they've changed as well.

Plus what everyone else said B:
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I am 100% sure (at least as far as the US is concerned) that seven years, across all major legal systems (Japan, US and Europe), is the time it takes for a missing person to be legally declared dead. This way, Zac had to come out and give his will, or else...all his assets would have gone to Trucy, his daughter. There is no way that Valant would have gotten the rights, as such things only go to the spouse or child (unless there is none). :gipsy: Would have legally gotten the rights...but nobody knew who she was except (perhaps) Zac, who wanted the rights to go to Trucy anyways. I think Zac knew who Lamiroir was, but was too embaressed about shooting her to say it in public. He hinted too strongly in the conversation at the restaurant. But the point is that 4-1 was Phoenix's opportunity to get Krissi in jail, and Zac thinking that he needed a will made that possible.

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^I'm sure Europe doesn't all have the same legal system.
Anyway, I liked the fact tat AJ took place so long after T&T, It gave the characters a chance to develop well.
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Yes, but I still prefer seeing the actual character development, not only the result :)
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Calling Feenie a spastic is OTT, IMO :( He was a bit of a dick but spastic is uncalled for.
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Calling Feenie a spastic is OTT, IMO :( He was a bit of a dick but spastic is uncalled for.



I think thats down to transatlantic differences in the use of the word spastic, grim_tales, it has a different meaning over here than in America hence games have had to be edited and Tiger Woods had to apologise. see here for more information on why if you are interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spastic

and back on topic I agree 7 years was probably picked as it allowed returning characters and the legal system to change over time and to reverse the original question why not 7 years? Theres no reason that there shouldn't be an 7 year gap when you consider the influence
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This way, Zac had to come out and give his will, or else...all his assets would have gone to Trucy, his daughter. There is no way that Valant would have gotten the rights, as such things only go to the spouse or child (unless there is none).


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Valant mentioned that Magnifi's will actually stated the rights would go to him if Zak died without passing them on.


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I think thats down to transatlantic differences in the use of the word spastic, grim_tales, it has a different meaning over here than in America hence games have had to be edited and Tiger Woods had to apologise. see here for more information on why if you are interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spastic


Wow. I had no idea the word had such a negative meaning outside the U.S. That's really interesting.
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mrowster wrote:
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Calling Feenie a spastic is OTT, IMO :( He was a bit of a dick but spastic is uncalled for.



I think thats down to transatlantic differences in the use of the word spastic, grim_tales, it has a different meaning over here than in America hence games have had to be edited and Tiger Woods had to apologise. see here for more information on why if you are interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spastic



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I actually really shouldn't be saying this, so don't put it up anywhere or I'm SO fired from Capcom's writing consultant team, but basically GS5 will introduce a character named Link, who, during that time period, had been in a form of stasis due to a powerful "person" known as the G-man, who wants him to take over the world through time travel and a monster called the Purple Tentacle.
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