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Some characters give their testimony, and when Phoenix points out the contradiction in it, it shows how they committed the crime.
But... What if they each got one last chance?
This is a little "Game" I thought of a long time ago, but never got a chance to post: For this topic, pick ANY criminal in the PW world, and give them One Last Testimony... One that COULD dismiss them of their crimes. Here's an example I made a long time ago, in a basic format, not including what would happen if Phoenix pressed each statement:
Case: 3-3.
Testimony: "The Bottle"
Yeah, I saw dat bottle before!I went from my office, to dis joint to look for some whales to do business with!
Dat's when I saw youze present dat bottle in court! Youze said it was poison, and dat's how I knew!
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I think that Viola should have confessed at the end of 3-3, rather than the stupid way Phoenix bluffed Tigre to death. She finally understood that she had been taken advantage of, had little to fear (her granddad would have got her off), and should have been ready to turn him in. I hoped that something like what you outlined would have happened, at which point Viola, convieniently in the courtroom, would have given the final piece of testimony. No cross examination or anything, she should simply confess the truth about Tigre. That would certainly save Maggey, and is the logical extension of the scene with Viola before the trial.
But then Viola would HAVE to be arrested as an accomplice. According to the end of the game, she's not in prison. I can only believe that it's because the "Paperwork got lost in the mail", so to speak. However, if she confessed about Tigre there, she would have no choice but to acknowledge her own crime... Or else Phoenix would make her, naturally... And if Phoenix made her confess on the stand, they'd have to arrest her right then and there, regardless of what Bruto would've wanted... He wouldn't want Viola in a "Concrete Room" for a second longer than never... I personally believe he's the reason that Viola Cadaverini wasn't taken to prison.
So again, we owe it to Tigre's "Lack of Intellect" that Viola Cadaverini wasn't convicted of the crime, OR that Capcom forgot to plug another plothole.
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I remember that when he's first called in to testify, Tigre states that he didn't attend Maggey's first trial. Now, working on the assumption that the trial was not broadcast and that no details about the bottle were released in news reports, Tigre could not use that as a way out.
I thought he said he "Never left the Office". But that is proven to be a lie, so he could just as easily use it again, as a "Oh, I just remembered..." scenerio.
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He couldn't have used 'I was the pretend lawyer' as a defence either because his entire plea of innocence relied on his not being the fake Phoenix. The Judge knew it was him, but couldn't declare officially that it was for some reason. If he admitted being the fake, that was as good as a full confession.
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If he admitted being the fake, that was as good as a full confession.
How so? All he had to say was, "I randomly got the urge to pretend to be a defense attorney and get someone declared guilty because I am a horrible human being."
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It was pretty much proved he had pretended to be Maggey's lawyer. So he was at that trial, so he could've said he knew that way....
No, because then he'd have to state WHY he went to that trial... which would've been the end for him... Also, it wasn't proven at all. We learned he COULD have done it, but the only evidence was the cardboard badge.
I can come up with a few reasons he could've used for that... Maybe Viola bought a suit for him? Maybe he wore that on Halloween? Maybe he Cosplays on weekends? I dunno... The Judge certainly couldn't say anything, since he's meant to remain unbiased...
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The Judge certainly couldn't say anything, since he's meant to remain unbiased...
Testifying to what he actually saw is kinda remaining unbiased.
Plus, even if the judge can't testify, there's still all the witnesses (although I guess it would only be Victor, and he might not even remember), Maggey, Payne, the bailiff(s), guard(s), and everyone in the audience.
As for why he did it, refer to my previous post.
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The Judge certainly couldn't say anything, since he's meant to remain unbiased...
Testifying to what he actually saw is kinda remaining unbiased.
Plus, even if the judge can't testify, there's still all the witnesses (although I guess it would only be Victor, and he might not even remember), Maggey, Payne, the bailiff(s), guard(s), and everyone in the audience.
As for why he did it, refer to my previous post.
1. The Judge couldn't say anything regarding it... After all, he can't "Confirm" it was Tigre, and without a confirmation, his claim is useless... Maggey can't, since "Now that you mention it" would discredit her judgement, and make it look like she's pushing the blame. Payne can't (He wouldn't! Currently, it says he has a win over Phoenix Wright! He'd go to his grave believing that was true), the bailiffs couldn't, nor could the people in attendance. The reason WHY is because no one can confirm beyond a doubt, that it was Tigre. You see a person with spiked hair, an attorney's badge, and a blue suit. Everyone thought it was Phoenix. if they suspected it was someone else, they would have thrown him out of court in the first place.
2. Victor couldn't testify it was Furio either! In fact, he's biased against Phoenix for the humiliation Phoenix put him through on the stand! The chance he'd lie to strike at Phoenix again, is highly likely.
Also, calling up ALL these people, would take too much time. Any PW fan knows that everything there occurs on a "Set Timeline", including the time it takes for trials... Calling up Payne, The Judge, Maggey again, Armstrong again, Victor again, Viola, and Furio again, would be simply ridiculous to imagine in terms of "All these people have testimonies"!
And even for PW, he'd need to explain himself more with that particular excuse... Remember, he would say that line in court...
Spoiler: 4-4
One could have someone press to learn more... The other could not.
And don't forget, during this whole case, Godot would be discrediting EVERY SINGLE WITNESS who went up to the stand.
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The reason WHY is because no one can confirm beyond a doubt, that it was Tigre. You see a person with spiked hair, an attorney's badge, and a blue suit. Everyone thought it was Phoenix. if they suspected it was someone else, they would have thrown him out of court in the first place.
He had orange skin, taller than average height, and a scar. Those are distinguishing marks. Get 30 people testifying that the "Phoenix Wright" that day had orange skin, was taller than average, and had a scar, and that pretty much confirms it. Don't forget they have videos and cameras in the detention center, where they can see the scar and orange skin, along with the fake badge.
And "they" may refer to the judge, Maggey, and Payne, but I don't think someone in the audience was in the position to yell out "Hey! That man isn't Phoenix Wright! Get him out of here!"
Also, about pressing... that's all Tigre had to say.
"I'm a horrible human being. That's why I did it."
"Hold it! There's got to be more to it than that!"
"There isn't."
"You did it to make sure Maggey was found guilty, didn't you?"
"No I didn't. I did it because I'm a horrible human being."
"But there has to be more!"
"Do you have proof that there's more?"
And Godot would step in somewhere along there for badgering the witness, anyway.
I know locating all the witnesses would be a pain and take forever, but they still had an extra day in court. I'm not saying it was likely that they could do that, but it's possible.
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The reason WHY is because no one can confirm beyond a doubt, that it was Tigre. You see a person with spiked hair, an attorney's badge, and a blue suit. Everyone thought it was Phoenix. if they suspected it was someone else, they would have thrown him out of court in the first place.
Don't forget they have videos and cameras in the detention center, where they can see the scar and orange skin, along with the fake badge.
He never went to the detention center according to Maggey. She said that she met him in the Defense Lobby... Yes, I KNOW that sounds stupid, and I think so too, but it's what the game says...
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Also, about pressing... that's all Tigre had to say.
"I'm a horrible human being. That's why I did it."
"Hold it! There's got to be more to it than that!"
"There isn't."
"You did it to make sure Maggey was found guilty, didn't you?"
"No I didn't. I did it because I'm a horrible human being."
"But there has to be more!"
"Do you have proof that there's more?"
"I'm a horrible human being. That's why I did it."
"Hold it! There's got to be more to it than that!"
"There isn't."
"You did it to make sure Maggey was found guilty, didn't you?"
"No I didn't. I did it because I'm a horrible human being."
"But there has to be more!"
"Do you have proof that there's more?"
You are hereby declared...
And are sentenced to re-write that entire thing as the corresponding PW characters... Say it in an Angry, Brooklynese Tone... This is also a problem you don't understand: Tigre is hot-headed. he simply COULDN'T act that calm to Phoenix. He is an intimidator by using fury, not intellect. Also, Armstrong HAD mentioned that Furio and him framed Maggey... That would make there be an official witness and thus, he would be forced to explain himself. I don't even think he would know what "Pleading the Fifth" was!
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And Godot would step in somewhere along there for badgering the witness, anyway.
I know locating all the witnesses would be a pain and take forever, but they still had an extra day in court. I'm not saying it was likely that they could do that, but it's possible.
I know locating all the witnesses would be a pain and take forever, but they still had an extra day in court. I'm not saying it was likely that they could do that, but it's possible.
Not really... They ONLY had the one day... Also, the case was supposed to have a ruling by that point anyways. Finally, Godot would get to round up the witnesses. HE'S in charge of them, not Phoenix or even the Judge... He could simply say "They all refused to testify" and Phoenix would be screwed... it wouldn't be surprising... Tigre would make it so that whoever went against him would regret it... and Phoenix never had "Definitive Evidence" to begin with...
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Wrestlemania wrote:
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Wrestlemania wrote:
The reason WHY is because no one can confirm beyond a doubt, that it was Tigre. You see a person with spiked hair, an attorney's badge, and a blue suit. Everyone thought it was Phoenix. if they suspected it was someone else, they would have thrown him out of court in the first place.
Don't forget they have videos and cameras in the detention center, where they can see the scar and orange skin, along with the fake badge.
He never went to the detention center according to Maggey. She said that she met him in the Defense Lobby... Yes, I KNOW that sounds stupid, and I think so too, but it's what the game says...
Really? I don't remember that.... I remember Maggey talking about how Xin Eohp just came to her and promised to get her acquitted, but I didn't see her say where, so I assumed it was the detention center... oh well ^^'
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Also, about pressing... that's all Tigre had to say.
"I'm a horrible human being. That's why I did it."
"Hold it! There's got to be more to it than that!"
"There isn't."
"You did it to make sure Maggey was found guilty, didn't you?"
"No I didn't. I did it because I'm a horrible human being."
"But there has to be more!"
"Do you have proof that there's more?"
"I'm a horrible human being. That's why I did it."
"Hold it! There's got to be more to it than that!"
"There isn't."
"You did it to make sure Maggey was found guilty, didn't you?"
"No I didn't. I did it because I'm a horrible human being."
"But there has to be more!"
"Do you have proof that there's more?"
You are hereby declared...
And are sentenced to re-write that entire thing as the corresponding PW characters... Say it in an Angry, Brooklynese Tone...
Why does everyone keep on declaring me guilty around here?! T_T
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This is also a problem you don't understand: Tigre is hot-headed. he simply COULDN'T act that calm to Phoenix. He is an intimidator by using fury, not intellect. Also, Armstrong HAD mentioned that Furio and him framed Maggey... That would make there be an official witness and thus, he would be forced to explain himself. I don't even think he would know what "Pleading the Fifth" was!
For someone who was hot-headed and didn't rely on intellect, he was pretty smart in all his last-minute excuses in court and making up the whole plan about recreating the crime scene to create a fake witness and then pretend to be Phoenix.
If Armstrong would testify that Tigre frammed Maggey, he would probably also testify that Tigre was the murderer.... Of course, there's no saying if he would testify, considering Tigre's hold on him.
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And Godot would step in somewhere along there for badgering the witness, anyway.
I know locating all the witnesses would be a pain and take forever, but they still had an extra day in court. I'm not saying it was likely that they could do that, but it's possible.
I know locating all the witnesses would be a pain and take forever, but they still had an extra day in court. I'm not saying it was likely that they could do that, but it's possible.
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Not really... They ONLY had the one day... Also, the case was supposed to have a ruling by that point anyways.
Court cases may last a total of 3 days. Tigre was called on the 2nd day. 3 - 2 = 1. (unless there was something I missed about retrials only getting 2 days
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Finally, Godot would get to round up the witnesses. HE'S in charge of them, not Phoenix or even the Judge... He could simply say "They all refused to testify" and Phoenix would be screwed... it wouldn't be surprising... Tigre would make it so that whoever went against him would regret it... and Phoenix never had "Definitive Evidence" to begin with...
He couldn't simply say "They all refused to testify" if they didn't refuse to testify. Yes, if they did all refuse, Phoenix would be screwed, but there's no saying they all would. Plus, it would be hard for Tigre to go round up 30+ in half a day and threaten them all into not testifying, especially when he doesn't have debts to coerce them with.
How come we keep on straying off topic for debates, Wrestle?
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Why does everyone keep on declaring me guilty around here?! T_T
Complete your senteeeeeence...
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For someone who was hot-headed and didn't rely on intellect, he was pretty smart in all his last-minute excuses in court and making up the whole plan about recreating the crime scene to create a fake witness and then pretend to be Phoenix.
I never said he was an idiot, but he doesn't rely on acting "Cool" in order to get himself out of trouble... He relies on the mental and emotional insecurities of others, and literally strikes at them... Unlike the other example we keep using.
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Not really... They ONLY had the one day... Also, the case was supposed to have a ruling by that point anyways.
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Court cases may last a total of 3 days. Tigre was called on the 2nd day. 3 - 2 = 1. (unless there was something I missed about retrials only getting 2 days )
)Well, in JFA, T&T, and AJ, all cases now last 2 days... Of course, even if it was 3 days, what I ended with still stands: All cases last 3 days, and they have 1 day left... I said they only had the one day, right?
*checks*
... Yup!
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He couldn't simply say "They all refused to testify" if they didn't refuse to testify. Yes, if they did all refuse, Phoenix would be screwed, but there's no saying they all would. Plus, it would be hard for Tigre to go round up 30+ in half a day and threaten them all into not testifying, especially when he doesn't have debts to coerce them with.
He managed to frighten Phoenix, Maya, AND the JUDGE!
...
But then again, frightening the Judge isn't that big of a deal when he's been intimidated by a Euro-Accented Rock Star, a Masked Coffee Addict, a frilly pink man, ANOTHER frilly pink man, some old dude, and some young chick.
... that has GOT to be the WORST description of Klavier Gavin, Godot, Jean Armstrong, Miles Edgeworth, Manfred von Karma, and Franziska von Karma EVER MADE!
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How come we keep on straying off topic for debates, Wrestle?
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Not really... They ONLY had the one day... Also, the case was supposed to have a ruling by that point anyways.
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Court cases may last a total of 3 days. Tigre was called on the 2nd day. 3 - 2 = 1. (unless there was something I missed about retrials only getting 2 days )
)Well, in JFA, T&T, and AJ, all cases now last 2 days... Of course, even if it was 3 days, what I ended with still stands: All cases last 3 days, and they have 1 day left... I said they only had the one day, right?
*checks*
... Yup!
It was explicitly stated in AA that trials may last a maximum of 3 days. In JFA, T&T, and AJ they only last 2 days because they are solved in 2 days; not because that is the maximum number of days the trial can last.
Tigre testified on the 2nd day of court. If Phoenix was bent on proving Tigre was the fake defense attorney, the judge could've postponed the trial to the final day, and during that day Godot/the police/Phoenix/whoever could've gathered up all the people at the trial. On the third day they could've testified, establishing that Tigre was the fake defense attorney, and then they could've continued from where they were on the second day.
...
Hold on a second... weren't we arguing about proving Tigre's motive in being the fake defense attorney, not if he was the fake one, anyway? o.o
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"Okay, Trite, there's a wound behind my mask. So what? Can you prove the wound is from being attacked by Dahlia?"
The only people at the Inner Temple were Maya, Dahlia, Pearl, and Godot, and the killer had a dagger wound. Even if Phoenix couldn't prove when Godot got his dagger wound, the fact that Maya and Pearl didn't have dagger wounds proves that Godot's dagger wound was caused by Dahlia.
So it wasn't just the fact that he had a dagger wound; it was the fact that he was the only one who had a dagger wound.
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There are lots of cases that ends in illogical ways. The villains always have a way of escaping Phoenix' claims in the silliest ways possible, like "do you have any proof that this world is real, and not illusionary? 'Cause if you, don't, you can't prove I commited the murder?". Until the ending of course, when they are suddenly rendered unable to say anything at all for themselves. I guess the pressure on the witness stand is too much to bear for a certain amount of time :P
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Boy am I glad that bag of filth finally gave in; when I was fighting him the first time, I felt as though I was fighting some RPG boss that took on a new form every time I dealt a finishing blow--not to mention letting Lana get convicted after going so far would leave a really bad taste in my mouth.
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I'm not sure if this counts as another testimony, but in 1-2...
Redd White: None of those names mean anything to me! How splendiforus!
Redd White: None of those names mean anything to me! How splendiforus!
The note Mia had wasn't related to the 1-2 case... remember, she wasn't going to give it to the court, but to the PRESS. It would have put a lot of dung on White's reputation...
... Now, HERE'S a good one for White:
"Actually, I didn't see the glass light stand there the week before the murder.
I saw it the day before the murder, while at the Gatewater Hotel.
Yes, I recall seeing Ms. Fey setting up the stand by the window.
This had happened before she placed it out of my field of vision."
Of course, the whole "THE MEDIA WILL HANG YOUUUU!" angle Mia had would still put a damper on the whole thing...
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Heck, he could've just let them take the bullet out and test it. :|
THe tests would probably take a day or two (thus letting him off due to the case being closed automatically).
And who's to say that the ballistic marks would've stayed on the bullet through all those years?
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VonKarma: When he got accused of the bullet in his shoulders being the one that was missing from DL-6, he could've said that it could've been from the same type of gun (4-4, anyone?).
Ballistic markings are specific to the actual gun, not just the type of gun.
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Heck, he could've just let them take the bullet out and test it. :|
But the ballistic markings would show the bullet was from the gun.
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THe tests would probably take a day or two (thus letting him off due to the case being closed automatically).
I don't think it would work like that... they'd probably say, "If it came from the murder weapon, Manfred is guilty. If it didn't, Edgeworth is guilty."
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And who's to say that the ballistic marks would've stayed on the bullet through all those years?
I believed ballistic markings are etched onto the bullet. They wouldn't just wear off.
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Bad Player wrote:
Ballistic markings are specific to the actual gun, not just the type of gun.
But wasn't that the problem in 4-4 when
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I don't think it would work like that... they'd probably say, "If it came from the murder weapon, Manfred is guilty. If it didn't, Edgeworth is guilty."
You missed my point: The ballistic marking test might've taken a day or two to complete. After that one day, the DL-6 case would've been closed for good (since the 15 years were up). Manfred would've been able to walk away scot-free.
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I believed ballistic markings are etched onto the bullet. They wouldn't just wear off.
After 15 years they might.
The bullet was made of metal, and after awhile it would probably rust (the oxygen in VonKarma's blood would do that) and then the markings would've probably been messed up.
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Ballistic markings are specific to the actual gun, not just the type of gun.
But wasn't that the problem in 4-4 when
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I don't think it would work like that... they'd probably say, "If it came from the murder weapon, Manfred is guilty. If it didn't, Edgeworth is guilty."
You missed my point: The ballistic marking test might've taken a day or two to complete. After that one day, the DL-6 case would've been closed for good (since the 15 years were up). Manfred would've been able to walk away scot-free.
And if the bullet didn't match, Edgeworth also would've been able to walk away scot-free.
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I believed ballistic markings are etched onto the bullet. They wouldn't just wear off.
After 15 years they might.
The bullet was made of metal, and after awhile it would probably rust (the oxygen in VonKarma's blood would do that) and then the markings would've probably been messed up.
Oxygen is chemically connected to the blood, not dissolved in it, so it wouldn't react.
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Bad Player wrote:
And if the bullet didn't match, Edgeworth also would've been able to walk away scot-free.
You missed my point again (and what's with you and Edgy? I never mentioned him).
There's no point in doing the tests in the first place; by the time the results got back (if they bothered to do the test) the DL-6 case would've been closed forever. It would be December 29, and the 15 years that everyone had to solve the case would be up. Manfred couldn't be arrested, and neither could Edgy.
Bad Player wrote:
Oxygen is chemically connected to the blood, not dissolved in it, so it wouldn't react.
Hmm. I didn't know that.
Although I still find it hard to believe that in 15 years of being stuck inside a body that's filled with fluids and whatnot, the bullet remained exactly the same as it was 15 years ago.
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"IF you had let me finish talking, you filthy piece of third rate trash... I WAS in the middle of saying what I was TRYING to hide this whole time. But NOW the truth finally comes out. That police officer. Dustin. The jail-Byrde's boyfriend...and MY ex! He dumped me for her, he cheated on me behind my back without even telling me, and then I see him with that girl, hear him talking about how he wants to MARRY her, and... the nerve! The nerve of him! He had it coming!"
"...so Mr. Wellington DOES love large bananas."
"YOU SHUT YOUR CAKE TRAP YOU MORONIC PILE OF FAILURE!"
"...so Mr. Wellington DOES love large bananas."
"YOU SHUT YOUR CAKE TRAP YOU MORONIC PILE OF FAILURE!"
I laughed. Hard. xD
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DJCruithne wrote:
Bad Player wrote:
And if the bullet didn't match, Edgeworth also would've been able to walk away scot-free.
You missed my point again (and what's with you and Edgy? I never mentioned him).
There's no point in doing the tests in the first place; by the time the results got back (if they bothered to do the test) the DL-6 case would've been closed forever. It would be December 29, and the 15 years that everyone had to solve the case would be up. Manfred couldn't be arrested, and neither could Edgy.
But Manfred's whole purpose in all of this was to get Edgeworth declared guilty of murder (either for killing Hammond or for DL-6) meaning letting Edgeworth walk away scott-free because the tests take too long, while it could free Manfred himself, would also free Edgeworth which would defeat the purpose of going through all that anyway.
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Bad Player wrote:
Wrestlemania wrote:
Bad Player wrote:
Also, about pressing... that's all Tigre had to say.
"I'm a horrible human being. That's why I did it."
"Hold it! There's got to be more to it than that!"
"There isn't."
"You did it to make sure Maggey was found guilty, didn't you?"
"No I didn't. I did it because I'm a horrible human being."
"But there has to be more!"
"Do you have proof that there's more?"
"I'm a horrible human being. That's why I did it."
"Hold it! There's got to be more to it than that!"
"There isn't."
"You did it to make sure Maggey was found guilty, didn't you?"
"No I didn't. I did it because I'm a horrible human being."
"But there has to be more!"
"Do you have proof that there's more?"
You are hereby declared...
And are sentenced to re-write that entire thing as the corresponding PW characters... Say it in an Angry, Brooklynese Tone...
Why does everyone keep on declaring me guilty around here?! T_T
Cos' you just are, period
Anyway..I'd at least say in the previous games it was somewhat more justifiable for them to breakdown at that point..I understand they wanted to make the game more exciting but in T&T it was ridiculous to get them by just the hook in phoenix's cases..it'd be very easy to slip by had they done so honestly..
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"I was not at KB Security at any time that night."
"There is no evidence that puts me at the crime scene"
"As far as knowing Mr. Delite was in the Demasque costume, don't forget I am a Ace Detective"
"Mr. Attorney, remember I was the one who told you about the blackmail letter.
"It's only natural that I would think he was in the Demasque costume."
So ZVARRI, I didn't need to be here to know that Ron was the costume.
PW: You're lying, that was the only time you could of seen Ron in the costume.
Atmey: Then Prove that was the only POSSIBLE time I could have saw or known about the costume.
PW: Ummmm.
Atmey: You can't prove it, Well it's time for me to go back to my other trial. It was fun Mr. Attorney.
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rydus65 wrote:
I'll try with Luke Atmey in 3-2
"I was not at KB Security at any time that night."
"There is no evidence that puts me at the crime scene"
"As far as knowing Mr. Delite was in the Demasque costume, don't forget I am a Ace Detective"
"Mr. Attorney, remember I was the one who told you about the blackmail letter.
"It's only natural that I would think he was in the Demasque costume."
So ZVARRI, I didn't need to be here to know that Ron was the costume.
PW: You're lying, that was the only time you could of seen Ron in the costume.
Atmey: Then Prove that was the only POSSIBLE time I could have saw or known about the costume.
PW: Ummmm.
Atmey: You can't prove it, Well it's time for me to go back to my other trial. It was fun Mr. Attorney.
"I was not at KB Security at any time that night."
"There is no evidence that puts me at the crime scene"
"As far as knowing Mr. Delite was in the Demasque costume, don't forget I am a Ace Detective"
"Mr. Attorney, remember I was the one who told you about the blackmail letter.
"It's only natural that I would think he was in the Demasque costume."
So ZVARRI, I didn't need to be here to know that Ron was the costume.
PW: You're lying, that was the only time you could of seen Ron in the costume.
Atmey: Then Prove that was the only POSSIBLE time I could have saw or known about the costume.
PW: Ummmm.
Atmey: You can't prove it, Well it's time for me to go back to my other trial. It was fun Mr. Attorney.
Sorry, he'd still have to explain his source for how he knew Ron DeLite was in-costume... He couldn't bypass it, even the JUDGE wouldn't let that slide... One last thing: He had to explain how he knew Ron was DeMasque... remember something: Atmey was trying to make himself look like DeMasque, so he couldn't use the obvious lines.
Also, recall that he doesn't have to prove how [Luke] isn't guilty... His previous testimony was meant to establish the guilt of RON... So he has to show that in further detail.
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Atmey: Ron's Guilt - The Last Testimony
Indeed, it is true that I was not at Lordly Tailor. I had to leave to see about another vitally important request. I had known about the date beforehard, so I had this photograph readied. My brilliant deduction was what informed me that the true culprit was Ron DeLite. And thanks to the key card and wallet, it was abundantly clear that he was there. I was also able to make a deduction from the buzzer, which only sounded once. The button did not have any fingerprints on it... Why? The victim would have left prints if he sounded it. Which means the killer sounded it. Mr. DeLite probably pressed it with the sleeve of his shirt, which is why he left no prints. And, the blackmail letter? The victim likely just mistook the color of the jewel. Zvarri! Therefore, all the evidence points to the poor boy!
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The Atmey testimony is pretty simple: He just doesn't have to mention Ron in the DeMasque costume.
But he already has. We're not talking about how what their last testimony should have been, but one more testimony that could be added on. At least, that's how I figured it was
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Atmey: Ron's Guilt - The Last Testimony
Indeed, it is true that I was not at Lordly Tailor. I had to leave to see about another vitally important request. I had known about the date beforehard, so I had this photograph readied. My brilliant deduction was what informed me that the true culprit was Ron DeLite. And thanks to the key card and wallet, it was abundantly clear that he was there. I was also able to make a deduction from the buzzer, which only sounded once. The button did not have any fingerprints on it... Why? The victim would have left prints if he sounded it, which means the killer sounded it. Since there were no prints, I deduced that Mr. DeLite was wearing gloves, which led me to believe he was wearing the Mask DeMasque costume! And, the blackmail letter? The victim likely just mistook the color of the jewel. Zvarri! Therefore, all the evidence points to the poor boy!
Indeed, it is true that I was not at Lordly Tailor. I had to leave to see about another vitally important request. I had known about the date beforehard, so I had this photograph readied. My brilliant deduction was what informed me that the true culprit was Ron DeLite. And thanks to the key card and wallet, it was abundantly clear that he was there. I was also able to make a deduction from the buzzer, which only sounded once. The button did not have any fingerprints on it... Why? The victim would have left prints if he sounded it, which means the killer sounded it. Since there were no prints, I deduced that Mr. DeLite was wearing gloves, which led me to believe he was wearing the Mask DeMasque costume! And, the blackmail letter? The victim likely just mistook the color of the jewel. Zvarri! Therefore, all the evidence points to the poor boy!
I think that is exactly what I would've said, except for the italicized part that I added in myself (since that makes it an additional testimony instead of a replacement)
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Bad Player wrote:
Mr. Bear wrote:
The Atmey testimony is pretty simple: He just doesn't have to mention Ron in the DeMasque costume.
But he already has. We're not talking about how what their last testimony should have been, but one more testimony that could be added on. At least, that's how I figured it was
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Atmey: Ron's Guilt - The Last Testimony
Indeed, it is true that I was not at Lordly Tailor. I had to leave to see about another vitally important request. I had known about the date beforehard, so I had this photograph readied. My brilliant deduction was what informed me that the true culprit was Ron DeLite. And thanks to the key card and wallet, it was abundantly clear that he was there. I was also able to make a deduction from the buzzer, which only sounded once. The button did not have any fingerprints on it... Why? The victim would have left prints if he sounded it, which means the killer sounded it. Since there were no prints, I deduced that Mr. DeLite was wearing gloves, which led me to believe he was wearing the Mask DeMasque costume! And, the blackmail letter? The victim likely just mistook the color of the jewel. Zvarri! Therefore, all the evidence points to the poor boy!
Indeed, it is true that I was not at Lordly Tailor. I had to leave to see about another vitally important request. I had known about the date beforehard, so I had this photograph readied. My brilliant deduction was what informed me that the true culprit was Ron DeLite. And thanks to the key card and wallet, it was abundantly clear that he was there. I was also able to make a deduction from the buzzer, which only sounded once. The button did not have any fingerprints on it... Why? The victim would have left prints if he sounded it, which means the killer sounded it. Since there were no prints, I deduced that Mr. DeLite was wearing gloves, which led me to believe he was wearing the Mask DeMasque costume! And, the blackmail letter? The victim likely just mistook the color of the jewel. Zvarri! Therefore, all the evidence points to the poor boy!
I think that is exactly what I would've said, except for the italicized part that I added in myself (since that makes it an additional testimony instead of a replacement)
I thought the same except you could make him say that when that statement is pressed in-game so he'd get his alibi in stone..
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