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But.. really, I don't know if I want to see her with 26. *sigh*
I want to see them together, of course, and I want her back, but.. I hope she didn't change in the last 7 years.

P.S.: I'm not sure, I read somewhere that T&T isn't out in some countries. Is that true?

:nixiesob: It's not out in Australia (and whatever markets share those releases), and there's no confirmed release date either. All I can say is, they'd better not region-lock the DS-successor. The main reason I hate the delays, is because it's as if they're trying to retcon the existence of game 3, releasing game 4 eons before and all that.

The main thing we require is a proper mention of Maya still being intrinsic in Phoenix's life, beyond sending a few DVDs. I mean the reports thing is nice, but it's still not a reasonable followup from what we saw in 3-5. Even when Larry didn't appear in game 2, (which I didn't think was too weird because he was the kind of friend who you could imagine Phoenix meeting up with sometimes but not having to appear and be mentioned onscreen) we get some complicated story in game 3 about him following some girlfriend to Tibet to properly explain his absence in that game.

I think we also need a better fill-in over what happened with them sometime in the 7 years. GK developing into some kind of sub-series set in the 7 year gap where they get to show up is our only hope of this I guess. We just need one piece of evidence to sink those peoples' idea that they 'never saw each other for 7 years sob sob'.

Hmm. Maybe we need to start antagonising Capcom. :nick-sweat:

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If you can get me that, MAYBE I can get dirty and try to translate it. =p

Will add to my 'to scan list' ! :) It's in one of the fanbooks, it's a two-part story thing where the other picture and conversation is that very canon pairing Diego and Mia in a coffeeshop. However, I doubt there will be anything which can be called canonly shippy unfortunately...
do you want the Mia-Diego part as well? it might be required to put it in context since they are 2 halves of the same thing.
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Sure, why not. I can dig Miego too, as long as it doesn't interfere with my Nick/Maya. =p

And LOL @ pagebreaks. =p I get to start page 34.

And according to RULE 34, there needs to be sum pr0nz now here. XD
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The main thing we require is a proper mention of Maya still being intrinsic in Phoenix's life, beyond sending a few DVDs. I mean the reports thing is nice, but it's still not a reasonable followup from what we saw in 3-5.


I really don't understand why they mentioned Maya (or 'his assistant') and then don't say anything about her. That's stupid.

Apropos 3-5.. I hate it that no one said WHY Phoenix ran over the BURNING bridge. Franziska just said "He fell into a river, got a cold and had to sleep."

Hm, I really don't like it that I don't know what's happend with Phoenix and Maya. I don't think they never saw each other for 7 years ^^, because if you want to go to Kurain, you just have to drive 2 hours. Nick would do that. Except Maya isn't in Kurain..

Ah, btw, in the end of GS4 Phoenix said that he'll maybe do his exam again.
But Capcom won't make any new PW-games, will they? :/
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They need to, or I'm going to personally go over their place and meticulously kill each and every single one of them so WE can make the new games instead. =p
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They need to, or I'm going to personally go over their place and meticulously kill each and every single one of them so WE can make the new games instead. =p

Do that when they make, and flop, the Phoenix Wright Movie. :zennybw:
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...On second thought, you're right.


And to lighten up the mood a bit, I have a small surprise for y'all.


Oh what could it be, what could it be...
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OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGTHANKYOUSOMUCH!!!!

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third edit:

uh, really, I agree to Capcom, kill everyone and make a new PW-game. <3
But, really, they only will make Apollo Justice games, won't they?


WHAAAH, I love the stories :gant-jazz:

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Oh look, a magical bunny dropped by and left another surprise...



I wonder what could it be...
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Second page.

Pure genius.

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I rather preferred the third one if you ask me. I'd have woken up with my pants dirty. =p
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yey! an other one *o*!
Dominicam you cheer my day :D
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WOW, these are brilliant! Especially 3 and 4 are genius! Thanks a lot for translating them!
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I really don't understand why they mentioned Maya (or 'his assistant') and then don't say anything about her. That's stupid.

Apropos 3-5.. I hate it that no one said WHY Phoenix ran over the BURNING bridge.

But Capcom won't make any new PW-games, will they? :/ uh, really, I agree to Capcom, kill everyone and make a new PW-game. <3
But, really, they only will make Apollo Justice games, won't they


They didn't mention Maya because they didn't mention any of the other Phoenix-arc chars by name either, because they've basically 'ceased to exist' for plot and writing purposes. Originally the Apollo thing was supposed to be a totally separate arc but of course then Capcom demanded Phoenix be returned and then it ceased to really be a separate arc but they didn't bother integrating it properly with the original trilogy. Even though, as soon as they included Phoenix, it became a follow up to the old arc, not a new one.

They didn't tell Maya why Phoenix ran across the bridge, because every hint of that couple was shrouded in irony and obliviousness. ie. those nasty writers just liked to taunt us. Note Phoenix never got to see the card, either ;_;

Anyway, they seem to have committed to nothing for game 5, so I think it's still up in the air. Whether there's any possibility of Phoenix and any vestiges of his 3-5 life returning, I really think is up to fan outcry - probably Japanese fan outcry, since I doubt they pay much attention to minor Western markets, and I'm not sure that contact details for Matsukawa are exactly floating around? (Fact is - I can't bear Phoenix and Maya to be apart, even if there is never any official actual romance involved. I just want them to be together, dammit..)

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They need to, or I'm going to personally go over their place and meticulously kill each and every single one of them so WE can make the new games instead. =p

Oh yeah, you can just imagine my ideas for the game when I become GS5 producer! (English tagline: Justice For Phoenix) :snackood: Actually, I suddenly came up with this terrible epic and shippy-interpretable plot the other day, which combined a lot of popular fan ideas for game 5.. eheehe

Thanks again for the translations.. hmm.. page 4 is the best, simply for Phoenix's reaction. Actually, there's another comic by Cursor, in that 'Best Partner' book, which is set after either 4-4 or 4-1 and is actually not bittersweet. AWWWWWWWWWWWWWW. I'll scan it soon..
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Are there any of these doujins that don't take place after the disbarment, where Phoenix haven't seen Maya for years?
(yes, i know that there is, I read all of the ones that are translated so far)
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Before the disbarment?

-All three parts of Usotsuki todoku (parts 1 and 2 presumably before JFA, since Pearls doesn't even get mentioned)
-Flower Steal
-Lost Lamb
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-A Wise Man's Mistake

Those all happen before Phoenix's trial with Zak.
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Icer, I think you're forgetting another aspect to the whole 'Why won't they mention Maya and the rest of the cast in GS4' thing which everyone seems to overlook: Namely, that the game is being played through Apollo's point of view.

Think about it. Apollo doesn't know anything about Phoenix besides his reputation, and after 4-1 it's obvious he's not that eager to know him. So why would he be interested in the aquaintances from seven years ago of a guy he barely knows and isn't fully interested in talking to? Unless it's vital information to a case, why would Apollo even care?

And for that matter, why would Phoenix even tell Apollo about his old friends. Though he trusts Apollo, he doesn't know him that well, and Apollo never asks, so why bother telling him about Maya? When you meet someone new, do you instantly tell them about all your friends and family?
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Icer, I think you're forgetting another aspect to the whole 'Why won't they mention Maya and the rest of the cast in GS4' thing which everyone seems to overlook: Namely, that the game is being played through Apollo's point of view.

Think about it. Apollo doesn't know anything about Phoenix besides his reputation, and after 4-1 it's obvious he's not that eager to know him. So why would he be interested in the aquaintances from seven years ago of a guy he barely knows and isn't fully interested in talking to? Unless it's vital information to a case, why would Apollo even care?

And for that matter, why would Phoenix even tell Apollo about his old friends. Though he trusts Apollo, he doesn't know him that well, and Apollo never asks, so why bother telling him about Maya? When you meet someone new, do you instantly tell them about all your friends and family?



Yeah, but in the last case we played through Nick's point of view again.
He never stood alone in a trial, why wasn't Maya there? And at the investigations after the trial, Maya wasn't there, too..
And they mentioned "his assistant".
In my opinion.. it sounds like "since he isn't a lawyer anymore, his assistant left."
Maya wouldn't do that *sigh*
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And speaking of fan fiction, I just wrote another piece (longest one I've EVER written -- Christ, that was draining) which I think you guys might like. Go on, take a look.
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Icer, I think you're forgetting another aspect to the whole 'Why won't they mention Maya and the rest of the cast in GS4' thing which everyone seems to overlook: Namely, that the game is being played through Apollo's point of view.[...]

That's the reasonable explanation why he never mentions his friends to Apollo (he doesn't even give any proper details of cases to Apollo till he's forced to right at the end) but not for the flashback trial or the part where you play as Phoenix. It could have been as easy as something like "I couldn't expect my 'assistant' to get back at such short notice, but I should be okay.." or something. Just get rid of a few seconds of Meekins to make up for it (Okay, I hate Meekins.)
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He never stood alone in a trial, why wasn't Maya there? ...
In my opinion.. it sounds like "since he isn't a lawyer anymore, his assistant left."
Maya wouldn't do that *sigh*

It's easy to 'in hindsight' imagine plausible reasons why Maya wasn't there for the flashback, (though I think the writers were simply writing like she didn't exist) something to do with being busy taking over as Kurain Master or whatever and Phoenix not expecting her to rush back at the last minute. Actually, the murder trial in 4-1 is a bigger plothole, since I can't imagine Maya would let him be on trial for murder without showing her support, even if they hadn't seen each other for 7 years.. we can pretend she's offscreen somewhere, but of course there's nothing to actually hint at it..

I can imagine her, unwillingly, leaving for Kurain after he's disbarred, but I don't believe she'd abandon him, because it goes against every second of characterisation in the 1st 3 games between them. I also am not sure that Maya would want to stay permanently in Kurain, or that there is any need for the Kurain Master to stay permanently in Kurain. (Though of course, the excuse of being a legal assistant is gone.)
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I agree; in all honesty, I don't think she'd ever think of leaving her poor porcupine alone once he'd gone through that harsh of a moment. Plus, think about this: about all you see of Phoenix in AJ is when HE LETS you see him; in every other instance, he's off the screen, and albeit we're fed stories or speculations of where he is, there's nobody among US as players that can know that for sure. In my personal opinion, since he always kept information from Apollo and only released it on a need-to-know basis, I'm willing to think he didn't dare divulge his connection with the current Kurain Master for fear of getting Maya and potentially Pearls as well in trouble.
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Me adoras, lo sé. ¿Salimos? XD

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Me adoras, lo sé. ¿Salimos? XD

Uy cuidado no me tientes xD
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¿Y por qué no? Después de todo, el español es sexy, y no quieras tú saber la de cosas que te puedo susurrar al oído para hacer que te derritas... XD *rolls eyes*

As for everyone else that doesn't speak spanish: move along, boys and girls, there's nothing to see here. =p




And hey, nobody here liked my fic? I keep getting pageviews but still no replies... T_T
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¿Y por qué no? Después de todo, el español es sexy, y no quieras tú saber la de cosas que te puedo susurrar al oído para hacer que te derritas... XD *rolls eyes*


Miedo me das. XD

Anyway, I've read your fic, it's great! :butzthumbs:
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Delsy wrote:
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¿Y por qué no? Después de todo, el español es sexy, y no quieras tú saber la de cosas que te puedo susurrar al oído para hacer que te derritas... XD *rolls eyes*


Miedo me das. XD
Somehow I find this VERY appealing. =D After all, it feels rather better when my girl feels a bit overwhelmed and lets herself be led on while I prostrate myself and adore her body like a deity...


And now I'm just babbling... =p Pero en fin, a ver, a ver, a mover la colita, si no la mueves se te va a poner malita... XD


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Anyway, I've read your fic, it's great! :butzthumbs:
Glad to hear that. Anything that struck you as especially attractive?
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Somehow I find this VERY appealing. =D After all, it feels rather better when my girl feels a bit overwhelmed and lets herself be led on while I prostrate myself and adore her body like a deity...


And now I'm just babbling... =p Pero en fin, a ver, a ver, a mover la colita, si no la mueves se te va a poner malita... XD



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Glad to hear that. Anything that struck you as especially attractive?

No, but it's great anyway. ^^
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For some reason I've found myself in a writing spree lately. :O

So here's another story I just finished starring our favorite couple. I slipped in two cross-references in the story to two other massively acclaimed gaming franchises, one very obvious, one very, VERY subtle (extra cookies if you catch it). I hope you people like them. =D
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Double the posting for double the awesomeness.

I refuse to let this thread die to the second page, so here I come again with yet another fic. It's Maya's little diary, which she's kept since some time after the Hazakura case. It was certainly an interesting challenge trying to tell things from her point of view while still keeping her in character. =p
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^Wow , you're certainly on a roll here.. and way more creative with titles than I'll ever be. I remember that wedding proposal prompt. With the diary one, I'm not sure that Maya wouldn't know what was up with Phoenix for 2 years, [but maybe that was another prompt..] but I enjoyed it a lot.
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As for everyone else that doesn't speak spanish: move along, boys and girls, there's nothing to see here. =p

That means there is something to see... :udgy:

Not much inspiration for fanfic of this couple myself lately.. the last one I wrote was Phoenix and Maya, not Phoenix/Maya.. but being the evil, evil shipper I am I didn't interpret the prompt to the letter to prevent additional 'issues' for my ship hehehe :oops:
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Well, I added a small Omake section to Maya's Diary. I think y'all be pleased with it, so go read it now! XD
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If anyone ever can keep up with all these fanfics...

Tears of a Fallen Star, the last chapter
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I recently joined so I thought I would just pop in because I love the pairing. I love all the pictures, fanfics, and doujins that you guys found. You guys rock! :will:
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Heeeee! Hehe! when you make that Marshall face it makes me blush! :pearly:

I read the Diary fic! It was a really nice read, I did enjoy it. :maya: Though Maya seemed to ..." SO HARD!" things a lot haha. I really liked the touches with Edgeworth and Iris! Bit embarrassing that Edgeworth had to give him gas money :\ Made me cringe a bit.

Nick turns out to be a big slacker, leaving poor Maya running around after them, can't really see her doing that though! I imagined more of Trucy and Maya playing up to Phoenix's soft side and being a push over. :keiko:
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Well, I thought that after seeing Nick's current situation and moving in with him and Trucy, she'd get her act together and start acting all responsible and stuff. It happens rather a lot, and her personality is one of those types that has all the traits for that, so I decided to go that way. =p
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I adore Phoenix and Maya, just as characters in the game they have great dynamics and are an awesome team. As for her (and Pearl's) absence in AJ I was wondering about that too, But eventually my conclusions are:

for 4-1 to 4-3 the game is played from Apollo's point of view so theres really no reason for him to talk to them. In 4-4 the part thats from Phoenix POV is

Spoiler: 4-4
actually just a flashback to show the jury what happened via the MASON system. It wasnt meant to be a 100% accurate (for instance the fact that you had to use evidence from the future to break psyche-locks from the past.) Phoenix could have simply left Maya out so not to confuse the jury with things that have nothing to do with the case.


Im sure theyll make an appearance in AA5
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