The Plane in Case 2 *Spoilers 2-3, 2-4, 3-5*

Sat Nov 15, 2008 3:51 pm

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The plane we see in case 2 screenshots looks remarkably similar to the one we see edgeworth going to board at the end of case 2-3.

Capcom said this game takes place around T&T but what if case 2 took place around 2-3, 2-4? and the murder on the plane (i think it was the plane where the murder was) was that plane?

then maybe case 1 (the murder in his office) could be too do with why he left the prosectutors office leaving a fake suicide note. the rest of the game could then lead up to the point before he goes back to defend iris.

these are just my thoughts though and there are probably some problems with it.

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Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:15 pm

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I don't know if youv'e played 1-5
Just in case

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You could be right about the plane but there might not have been time for him to solve a murder then rush off to 2-4.
Good theories but yeah a few flaws.

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Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:43 am

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I really like the idea of it taking place between JFA and T&T. There are a few flaws, yeah. But nothing that couldn't be worked out somehow.

Oooh, maybe a plane will mean we get to see Edgeworth in his sexy blu-ish coat again. :-DDD

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Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:42 am

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yeah i guess the murder in the office couldn't have been related to edgeworth leaving but

Case 2-3 takes place Dec 28-30 2017
Case 2-4 takes place March 20-23 2018

that's a 3 month gap. surely if phoenix can solve a murder in 3 days then edgeworth could in just under 3 months.

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Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:30 pm

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He'll probably solve the case before the plane lands, for what it's worth.

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Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:16 pm

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FabuVinny wrote:

He'll probably solve the case before the plane lands, for what it's worth.

Looking at the screen shots makes me doubt that.

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Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:22 pm

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Yeah I was just looking at them, the case could be after the plane lands explaining why Gumshoe and Franziska are at the airport. That would be kind of weird though if the case took a couple of days or whatever and he (Edgeworth) never bothered to contact Phoenix. Also my memorys not good but was Franziska surprised to see Edgeworth in 2-4?

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Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:26 am

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In the demo, the age given in Gumshoe's profile matches his age in T&T. The game definately takes place after JFA.

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Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:28 am

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Ben X2 wrote:

Also my memorys not good but was Franziska surprised to see Edgeworth in 2-4?

My memory's not good either, but didn't she come to America to find Edgeworth? So, I don't think she would have been surprised, but it's been a while since I've played, I could be wrong.

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Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:27 pm

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Croik wrote:

In the demo, the age given in Gumshoe's profile matches his age in T&T. The game definately takes place after JFA.

Unless...
...the cases are not all in chronological order. Kinda like with 2-1 and 2-2. 2-1 takes place after 2-2 according to the court records timeline. Although that is unlikely, it's still a possibility. So P-2 could take place before P-1 for some reason. (Since the demo only showed case P-1 as far as I know.)

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Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:34 pm

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Contradiction wrote:

Unless...
...the cases are not all in chronological order. Kinda like with 2-1 and 2-2. 2-1 takes place after 2-2 according to the court records timeline. Although that is unlikely, it's still a possibility. So P-2 could take place before P-1 for some reason. (Since the demo only showed case P-1 as far as I know.)

That's what I'm starting to believe will be the case. It would make sense that Edgeworth is returning from America/Europe to Japan/America, but the case itself is too complicated to serve as a demo so they put it second. However, I don't think they would make a huge jump in time. If the second case takes place before the first, it will probably be that they are few months apart from each other rather than a few year.

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Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:06 pm

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Lunaria42 wrote:

That's what I'm starting to believe will be the case. It would make sense that Edgeworth is returning from America/Europe to Japan/America, but the case itself is too complicated to serve as a demo so they put it second. However, I don't think they would make a huge jump in time. If the second case takes place before the first, it will probably be that they are few months apart from each other rather than a few year.

That was the reason why 2-1 and 2-2 were swapped around so if the same went for this game then that would probably also be the reason.

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Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:36 pm

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I kinda hope they don't mix the game into T&T. It'd be really awkward to say now "Edgeworth returned home to help Franziska/help Phoenix (whether it was for 2-4 or 3-5, take your pick) and just happened to solve a murder on the way!" It's another of those minor "It would have been nice to know that at the time" retcons.

Plus I hate it when cases are presented out of order >:I

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Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:51 pm

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Croik wrote:

I kinda hope they don't mix the game into T&T. It'd be really awkward to say now "Edgeworth returned home to help Franziska/help Phoenix (whether it was for 2-4 or 3-5, take your pick) and just happened to solve a murder on the way!" It's another of those minor "It would have been nice to know that at the time" retcons.

Plus I hate it when cases are presented out of order >:I

I hope they don't mix these cases in with T&T either. I don't remember, but it might have been implied that he and Franziska returned to America/Europe after the last case.

Another theory could be that after the events of the first case, Edgeworth decides he needs a vacaction. Maybe the second case is him returning from that vacation.

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Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:15 pm

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Lunaria42 wrote:

Another theory could be that after the events of the first case, Edgeworth decides he needs a vacaction. Maybe the second case is him returning from that vacation.

Maybe that explains the Gyakuten snapshot with the sexy picture of Edgeworth and Franziska (and Gummy!) on the cruise ship? :hotti:

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Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:46 am

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Maybe that explains the Gyakuten snapshot with the sexy picture of Edgeworth and Franziska (and Gummy!) on the cruise ship? :hotti:

But that wouldn't entirely explain why Edgeworth is suprised to see Franziska in that one screen shot.

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Wed Nov 19, 2008 2:39 am

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But that wouldn't entirely explain why Edgeworth is suprised to see Franziska in that one screen shot.

Hrm, that's true. I guess we'll have to wait and see. ^_^;;

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Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:59 pm

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Croik wrote:

I kinda hope they don't mix the game into T&T. It'd be really awkward to say now "Edgeworth returned home to help Franziska/help Phoenix (whether it was for 2-4 or 3-5, take your pick) and just happened to solve a murder on the way!" It's another of those minor "It would have been nice to know that at the time" retcons.

Plus I hate it when cases are presented out of order >:I

Wouldn't be for 3-5, he chartered a private jet to get back to America for that one. It might work for 2-4, but it would end up being kind of ridiculous.

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Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:04 pm

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To be honest, I couldn't care less when exactly it takes place, it's not like we're aware of Every case Edgeworth has been on, and it would'nt surprise me if he had multiple one's between the games or during them.

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Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:32 pm

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^
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Same thing with me...

And...The whole "murder in the airplane" -thing...I hope it won't go like he being able to realize the criminal before it lands...
It would be too much like Case Closed...(Detective Conan...ya know that anime...right?...no?...Well there was a case in flying plane.)

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Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:39 pm

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y'know...it just occured to me, didn't edgeworth and frannzy get on the same plane at the end of 2-4?

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Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:11 am

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i was actually on about the plane at the end of 2-3 since in the screenshots the 2 planes seem almost identical. 2-4 could work aswell though i guess

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Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:50 pm

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Because no two objects have ever looked alike, even when dealing with a company that regularly reuses character sprites...? :shoe:

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Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:37 pm

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Also, all planes from a particular airline are going to look pretty much the same (so long as they're the same type and size and all). So the fact that the planes look "identical" wouldn't be surprising. That airline probably has dozens of planes like that.

Just because we happened to see Edgeworth in the context of an airplane a couple of times in the past, doesn't mean that this time has any relation to it. And also, the information we know about the case (and the game) strongly suggests that it occurs after any of the events in the first 3 games.

Which, really, is the best time for it. What do we care about random cases Edgeworth may have had in the past? We want to know what became of him after T&T ended, and that's what it appears this game will be telling us. :edgy: