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Since there's no court scenes, and thus no 'guilty' or 'not guilty' verdict, how do you think these cases will end? Probably with a confession from someone, and maybe a sly, "I'll see you in court" from Edgeworth? I mean, the criminal is going to have a trial. So technically the cases are going to the end before the story does. Am I making sense?
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Or, they could possibly end the cases at the beginning of the trial?
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It could end with a confession. If Edgeworth gets a confession out of the criminal during the "interrogation" phase and they come to some kind of plea bargin, there wouldn't even be a need for a trial would there?
Good point. But, and forgive me if I'm wrong, isn't it guaranteed in the Bill of Rights that there will be some sort of trial? Like, even if they're just pleading guilty, you do still have a trial, right? Oh well. XD
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What happens is that the person pleading guilty does so in the presence of the prosecutor and judge. They have to agree with the prosecution's version of what occurred, and sometimes have to describe exactly what their crime was. The judge then gives them their sentence.
(Obviously, this is the real world American legal system I'm talking about.)
I'd imagine that, like a normal mystery story, the case will end with the criminal being completely pinned down and unable to weasel their way out of it, possibly ultimately confessing. They'll then be arrested, and we may get some afterword telling us about their trial (if they didn't confess) or something like that.
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No no having a trial after a guilty plea would be silly and a waste of the court's time.
What happens is that the person pleading guilty does so in the presence of the prosecutor and judge. They have to agree with the prosecution's version of what occurred, and sometimes have to describe exactly what their crime was. The judge then gives them their sentence.
(Obviously, this is the real world American legal system I'm talking about.)
I'd imagine that, like a normal mystery story, the case will end with the criminal being completely pinned down and unable to weasel their way out of it, possibly ultimately confessing. They'll then be arrested, and we may get some afterword telling us about their trial (if they didn't confess) or something like that.
What happens is that the person pleading guilty does so in the presence of the prosecutor and judge. They have to agree with the prosecution's version of what occurred, and sometimes have to describe exactly what their crime was. The judge then gives them their sentence.
(Obviously, this is the real world American legal system I'm talking about.)
I'd imagine that, like a normal mystery story, the case will end with the criminal being completely pinned down and unable to weasel their way out of it, possibly ultimately confessing. They'll then be arrested, and we may get some afterword telling us about their trial (if they didn't confess) or something like that.
Oh, ok. My vision of the legal system is ultimately fuzzy. XD
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In comparison to other countries in the developed world, Japan has a unique prosecutorial system. Ninety-nine percent of criminal defendants are convicted in Japan, and almost all are convicted following their own confession. Prosecutors tend to bring charges only when they have a signed confession from the accused, and such confessions often occur after long questioning by police. Although defendants have a right to counsel, it is generally not possible for them to obtain counsel between their arrest and indictment. This makes it difficult to judge the true extent of criminal activity in Japan, since many possible criminals refuse to confess and are thus never indicted.
Normally the games contradict this entirely - hardly any of Phoenix's clients confess, and of course the evidence is always very skeevy. However, when working the game from the prosecutor's POV, it makes sense to make a confession the primary concern.
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Granted this is Wikipedia knowledge, but still worth considering:
Normally the games contradict this entirely - hardly any of Phoenix's clients confess, and of course the evidence is always very skeevy. However, when working the game from the prosecutor's POV, it makes sense to make a confession the primary concern.
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In comparison to other countries in the developed world, Japan has a unique prosecutorial system. Ninety-nine percent of criminal defendants are convicted in Japan, and almost all are convicted following their own confession. Prosecutors tend to bring charges only when they have a signed confession from the accused, and such confessions often occur after long questioning by police. Although defendants have a right to counsel, it is generally not possible for them to obtain counsel between their arrest and indictment. This makes it difficult to judge the true extent of criminal activity in Japan, since many possible criminals refuse to confess and are thus never indicted.
Normally the games contradict this entirely - hardly any of Phoenix's clients confess, and of course the evidence is always very skeevy. However, when working the game from the prosecutor's POV, it makes sense to make a confession the primary concern.
Wow. Fascinating. I didn't even guess that... So that's why not losing a single case in 40 years is even possible.
It seems there's power imbalance, though.
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In that kind of environment it almost makes sense why von Karma (or since it's Japan, Karuma~) would value perfection so much: a single loss reflects even worse on a prosecutor there than it does in America.
Of course, I can't speak to how accurate these things are, and with Japan reintroducing juries relatively soon, it's likely going to change. But interesting nonetheless.
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Maybe it'll be one of those crime drama endings where the police haul the criminal while he's saying "I'll get you for this, Edgeworth."
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Croik wrote:
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Maybe it'll be one of those crime drama endings where the police haul the criminal while he's saying "I'll get you for this, Edgeworth."
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Croik wrote:
hyperguy152 wrote:
Maybe it'll be one of those crime drama endings where the police haul the criminal while he's saying "I'll get you for this, Edgeworth."
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Now to get to the endings. The cases in UC end with a "Final Report" in which you report your findings to your boss. You lay out who did it and why. Your boss gets the warrant ready and the arrest is made. In the end, you talk about motive and the exact modus operandi with your fellow investigator and the chief.
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Croik wrote:
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Maybe it'll be one of those crime drama endings where the police haul the criminal while he's saying "I'll get you for this, Edgeworth."
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Dastardly Dylan wrote:
Every case must end with Edgeworth and Gumshoe dancing to the YMCA song, and they're walking down the street dancing with characters from the previous games following along, dancing.
Edgeworth approves.
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Detective Bloom wrote:
Dastardly Dylan wrote:
Every case must end with Edgeworth and Gumshoe dancing to the YMCA song, and they're walking down the street dancing with characters from the previous games following along, dancing.
Edgeworth approves.
Strangely, I approve as well.
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No no having a trial after a guilty plea would be silly and a waste of the court's time.
If I remember correctly (and I probably do)
was pleading guilty in the detnetion center but 
still defended her anyway. Whoops! I forgot to shout objection.
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Every case must end with Edgeworth and Gumshoe dancing to the YMCA song, and they're walking down the street dancing with characters from the previous games following along, dancing.
Hahaha. This would be full of win. XD
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ILikeShinyMirrors wrote:
Hahex makes a really good point. In PW world, you can still be defended if you're pleading guilty...Ron DeLite was sort of pleading guilty too.
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Millini wrote:
Detective Bloom wrote:
Dastardly Dylan wrote:
Every case must end with Edgeworth and Gumshoe dancing to the YMCA song, and they're walking down the street dancing with characters from the previous games following along, dancing.
Edgeworth approves.
Strangely, I approve as well.
As do I.
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The criminal confesses, and Edgeworth turns to the police chief and says, "That's your man, sir." He smirks and walks out of the room with the Perry Mason Theme plays.
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Billiards Koopa wrote:
The criminal confesses, and Edgeworth turns to the police chief and says, "That's your man, sir." He smirks and walks out of the room with the Perry Mason Theme plays.
Haha, nice. Don't forget the cravat rustling in the breeze. XD
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Croik wrote:
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Maybe it'll be one of those crime drama endings where the police haul the criminal while he's saying "I'll get you for this, Edgeworth."
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? If that's true, damn you Capcom(or whoever is responsible for this)! I wanted to see how the kid would react when Spoiler:
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divinityx wrote:
I'm not saying you should put this on the FAQ, but so since they've confirmed they're releasing GK, does that mean it's the end of ? If that's true, damn you Capcom(or whoever is responsible for this)! I wanted to see how the kid would react when . I'll miss polly. Hope he appears in GK somehow.
? If that's true, damn you Capcom(or whoever is responsible for this)! I wanted to see how the kid would react when Spoiler:
We don't know much about GS5, but I guess one can say it will be made. That's where Polly comes back in (probably). GK is a spin-off game, could be called a different series. I don't think Apollo will come into GK, but it certainly isn't the end of him.
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divinityx wrote:
I'm not saying you should put this on the FAQ, but so since they've confirmed they're releasing GK, does that mean it's the end of ? If that's true, damn you Capcom(or whoever is responsible for this)! I wanted to see how the kid would react when . I'll miss polly. Hope he appears in GK somehow.
? If that's true, damn you Capcom(or whoever is responsible for this)! I wanted to see how the kid would react when Spoiler:
We don't know much about GS5, but I guess one can say it will be made. That's where Polly comes back in (probably). GK is a spin-off game, could be called a different series. I don't think Apollo will come into GK, but it certainly isn't the end of him.
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Exactly. Plus, GK takes place after case 3-5 so Apollo would be like, 15 years old then.
We'll just have to wait and see.
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Im thinking probobly the arrest of the criminal.
Or, they could possibly end the cases at the beginning of the trial?
Or, they could possibly end the cases at the beginning of the trial?
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