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Re: Turnabout Substitution - DEMO AVAILABLE! (+ 1 hr gameplay)

Sat Jan 03, 2009 5:50 pm

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Ping' wrote:

btw, is that blonde-haired female attorney in Ceres' sprite topic going to be the prosecutor in this case? (I was wondering, since it's grouped with all the other sprites from here.)
> She's a defense attorney, and that's all I'm going to reveal for now.

I didn't even need that much; just a "no" :gymshoe:

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Spoiler: serial killings

It said (most probably in the game but I really forget where) that in the serial killings the murderer would make a bust and sign a piece of music "Charles Darwin". I didn't understand that :eh?:

If you could clarify that, it would be really great :oops:

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Oh, and your theories are just brilliant. Mostly wrong (like every other theory on this thread) but brilliant nonetheless.

Aw...

Oh well. You can't convince me that you aren't just saying, because it's easier to say that every theory is wrong than say one or a few is right and get flooded with messages asking which are right and which are wrong!

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Re: Turnabout Substitution - DEMO AVAILABLE! (+ 1 hr gameplay)

Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:22 pm

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It said (most probably in the game but I really forget where) that in the serial killings the murderer would make a bust and sign a piece of music "Charles Darwin". I didn't understand that If you could clarify that, it would be really great
> The murderer doesn't exactly "make a bust". Think of pictures of the victim scattered all around the floor in a way that, if you look at it from a certain angle, reminds you of a bust. As for the piece of music signed Charles Darwin, it is, quite literally, a piece of music signed Charles Darwin the criminal leaves at the scene as a sort of calling card.

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Re: Turnabout Substitution - DEMO AVAILABLE! (+ 1 hr gameplay)

Sat Jan 03, 2009 7:51 pm

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i get some kind of strange bug at the scene when you enter the supreme court building and i open the court record and try to close it I get this.
I can click what i want after thaht but nothing works

and pywright txt document say's this

(it is not realy a spoiler but it takes quite much space)

Spoiler:

Re: Turnabout Substitution - DEMO AVAILABLE! (+ 1 hr gameplay)

Sun Jan 04, 2009 8:42 am

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Hey, pretty good so far! I just got up to investigating the Supreme Court Building; I can examine the left half of the scene but when I click on -> to check the right half, nothing responds. I can click on <- and that scene works fine. Checking the court record on the right half seems buggy too.

Re: Turnabout Substitution - DEMO AVAILABLE! (+ 1 hr gameplay)

Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:23 am

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Most of the above reported engine issues are fixed in the latest auto-update, including examining the right side of the last scene. Don't forget to close and restart the program after the update, otherwise some changes won't be loaded.

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Re: Turnabout Substitution - DEMO AVAILABLE! (+ 1 hr gameplay)

Sun Jan 04, 2009 1:21 pm

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konakona wrote:

Hey, pretty good so far! I just got up to investigating the Supreme Court Building; I can examine the left half of the scene but when I click on -> to check the right half, nothing responds. I can click on <- and that scene works fine. Checking the court record on the right half seems buggy too.

If you can't wait for the update, the right side of the screen does react with the up, left, right and down keys. To investigate an area press the enter key.

Re: Turnabout Substitution - DEMO AVAILABLE! (+ 1 hr gameplay)

Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:56 pm

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Wow, I just found this, and its pretty good. I use PWLib myself, but this case demo created with PyWright is of rather impressive quality.
Haven't really noticed any glitches as of yet.

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Re: Turnabout Substitution - DEMO AVAILABLE! (+ 1 hr gameplay)

Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:01 pm

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I played it and it does have bugs, but not killing bugs. One very noticable bug is when you're examining. sometimes the examination shows the first sentence for the area but then say "no clues here".

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Re: Turnabout Substitution - DEMO AVAILABLE! (+ 1 hr gameplay)

Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:19 am

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Comments so far:

* Seems to nail the PW feel. Apollo's voice, so far, is just a little off. He sounds more like Phoenix.

* Even though making the "replacement assistant" a clone of the normal assistant is an expected PW trope, Rhea's still too Trucy-ish for my tastes.

* "Dont wan't" in the intro? Em-dash abuse as well? Needs close proofreading. Also, "Hercalitus" should be Heraclitus.

*

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* Presenting some objects and profiles to some people really ought to get a response. In particular:

Spoiler:

Quote:

Now, for those who played the game... can you guess what is going to happen next?
Knowing what you're expecting at this point will help me view the story from a different point of view. Any ideas?

*

Spoiler: Theories/deductions so far

How'm I doing?

Turnabout Bakeshop (fancase, complete!)

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Re: Turnabout Substitution - DEMO AVAILABLE! (+ 1 hr gameplay)

Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:27 am

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FerdieLance wrote:

* Seems to nail the PW feel. Apollo's voice, so far, is just a little off. He sounds more like Phoenix.

Ah, yes, I agree with the voice thing. In the beginning, Apollo seemed a bit out of character to me.

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Re: Turnabout Substitution - DEMO AVAILABLE! (+ 1 hr gameplay)

Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:18 pm

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YggdrasilsSword : Thanks!

KSA_Tech : Yes, you're right.

FerdieLance :
* Seems to nail the PW feel.
> Thank you!
Apollo's voice, so far, is just a little off. He sounds more like Phoenix.
> The same could be said of ~~all religions~~ AJ:AA itself. And yes, this Apollo is indeed a bit different. I tried to go for character development instead of relying solely on the lines he's given in the first game. But apparently, that is not to everyone's taste - and I can certainly understand that =)
* Even though making the "replacement assistant" a clone of the normal assistant is an expected PW trope, Rhea's still too Trucy-ish for my tastes.
> As with Ema in 1-5, there are crucial differences that will be revealed later on. Most of these new characters are deeper than at first glance.
* "Dont wan't" in the intro? Em-dash abuse as well? Needs close proofreading. Also, "Hercalitus" should be Heraclitus.
> Thanks for pointing it out!
*
Spoiler:
Several pieces of evidence (bullet hole, plate, and photo of Nathan) are not prominently visible enough.

>

Spoiler:

* Presenting some objects and profiles to some people really ought to get a response. In particular:
Spoiler:
*Asking Meekins or Shawn about the Wig. In particular, asking Shawn about the wig.

* Asking Shawn about Erlenmeyer's profile (ie, his resemblance to Erlenmeyer.)

* Showing your attorney's badge to people.

* Asking Shawn about the gun, the blood, or whether the prisoner ever had a chance to send a letter, a gun, and a costume.

> Absolutely. All this will be added in the next version.

Also, I'd like you to know that your theories are my favourite so far.
They could help me tie up every loose end.
Once again, thank you for your constructive comments!

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Re: Turnabout Substitution - DEMO AVAILABLE! (+ 1 hr gameplay)

Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:31 am

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You included all of PyWright instead of just the case. o.O Please don't.

Separating the music would also halve the download size.

Re: Turnabout Substitution - DEMO AVAILABLE! (+ 1 hr gameplay)

Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:51 am

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MrCheese: the download was for a wide audience, not just those who already have PyWright. If you already had PyWright, you should have just downloaded the case via the updater. Maybe this needed to be more clear.

Also, at ~40 mb, the 5 mb for pywright doesn't make that much of a difference.

You are right about the music being too big, (most of the space was the music). But telling people where to extract things to get the music was added complexity. I'll have to think about pywright distribution, I think it can be made a lot better. As is, with the updater there is no nice way to split up the case and the music.

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Re: Turnabout Substitution - DEMO AVAILABLE! (+ 1 hr gameplay)

Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:02 pm

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Alright folks, I need your help.

I'd like a list of
- spots you'd like to be able to examine
- evidence you'd like to be able to present (like Ferdielance did).

I'll add them in the game, release a 1.1 version and you'll be mentioned in the credits =)

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Re: Turnabout Substitution - DEMO AVAILABLE! (+ 1 hr gameplay)

Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:35 am

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Spoiler: stuff

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Re: Turnabout Substitution - DEMO AVAILABLE! (+ 1 hr gameplay)

Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:21 am

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Great ideas, added them to my todolist ^^
They would be even better if you could make the spoiler tags work, though.

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Re: Turnabout Substitution - DEMO AVAILABLE! (+ 1 hr gameplay)

Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:49 pm

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done, apologies to anyone who got spoiled.

Re: Turnabout Substitution - DEMO AVAILABLE! (+ 1 hr gameplay)

Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:43 pm

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Spoiler: Stuff

Re: Turnabout Substitution - DEMO AVAILABLE! (+ 1 hr gameplay)

Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:59 pm

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loewies wrote:

Spoiler: Stuff

...?

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Re: Turnabout Substitution - DEMO AVAILABLE! (+ 1 hr gameplay)

Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:45 am

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Thanks, added them all to my todolist. Looks like I have lots of work ahead of me.
DramaticaXIV2, if you don't understand what this is all about I suggest you read the few previous posts.

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Re: Turnabout Substitution - DEMO AVAILABLE! (+ 1 hr gameplay)

Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:04 pm

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I only just got the chance to play the case, but I have to say, great work!
That NickRoll was OVER NINE THOUSAAAND.

Eh... Yeah, the lack of things to present and examination possibilities does
kind of stand out. I'd say, some interesting stuff would be...

Spoiler:

Also, if you're ever in need of anymore spriting, feel free to ask me.
I really enjoyed having a part in this.

Also, that Rhea is one sassy character... And then I'm not just talking about her sprite! :P

Re: Turnabout Substitution - DEMO AVAILABLE! (+ 1 hr gameplay)

Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:00 pm

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Thanks! Added them to my todolist. No spriting needed for now, I'm focusing on making day 1 better.
So, that leaves me with 38 (!) new present and 6 new examine. Guys, I need more spots to examine :)

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Re: Turnabout Substitution - DEMO AVAILABLE! (+ 1 hr gameplay)

Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:03 pm

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Just got around to playing this. Pretty cool. THough I didn't expect Nick to tell you who the killer was, I still didn't expect his actual reaction. :gant:

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Re: Turnabout Substitution - DEMO AVAILABLE! (+ 1 hr gameplay)

Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:13 pm

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I'm having trouble with it. In PyWright 10.7 (it worked with earlier models) It always cuts off the last line of text for me.

"I think our police are excellent, probably because I have not done anything that has occasioned being beaten up by these good men."

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Re: Turnabout Substitution - DEMO AVAILABLE! (+ 1 hr gameplay)

Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:08 pm

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This is probably because the textbox in ts_demo/art/general is too small. Try replacing it with the textbox in your version of PyWright.

Since you bumped this topic, this is a good opportunity to remind everyone that we're finally making some progress with trial day 1. A new demo could be released as early as June :)

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Re: Turnabout Substitution - DEMO AVAILABLE! (+ 1 hr gameplay)

Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:02 pm

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June is still kinda far off =\ (I'm impatient. Yay! =D)

I want it NNNNAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
(And do you mean all of trial 1 or the first half? :eh?:

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Re: Turnabout Substitution - DEMO AVAILABLE! (+ 1 hr gameplay)

Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:47 pm

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The following function:

addev nathan$

The evidence.txt file does not include Nathan's name or description. I had to make the description from scratch.

Code:

set nathan$_name Nathan Wits
set nathan$_pic unknownman
set nathan$_desc Age: deceased Gender: Male{n}Rhea Wits' older brother, killed by Robert Erlenmeyer. A skilled computer engineer who lived with Rhea.

unknownman=

Also just to spice it up, I put an intro.txt for the game.

Code:

bg ts/ts_logo
bg main stack y=192 name=1
fg Begin x=0 y=192 z=46 name=begin
waitenter
sfx Gavel.ogg
pause 60
delete name=begin
sfx Scroll.ogg
casemenu

ts_logo=

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Begin=

Spoiler: My FG Begin

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Re: Turnabout Substitution - DEMO AVAILABLE! (+ 1 hr gameplay)

Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:11 am

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Bad Player > I'd say all of it, but you know who that depends on ^.^

Brawldud > Whoops, I had forgotten "addev nathan$" was still there.
Thanks, I'll try it with your additions as soon as I can.

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Re: Turnabout Substitution - DEMO AVAILABLE! (+ 1 hr gameplay)

Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:26 pm

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Oh, one thing.
The "sfx Scroll.ogg" was obtained with this method.

I downloaded [sfx general.zip] and extracted the sound effects. I then renamed "sfx-scroll.wav" to "Scroll.wav" and then used a program called [MP3 WMA Free Converter] to convert it to an Ogg Vorbis file extension.

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Re: Turnabout Substitution - DEMO AVAILABLE! (+ 1 hr gameplay)

Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:27 pm

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By the way, "char nothing" isn't a valid command - just use "char".

Re: Turnabout Substitution - DEMO AVAILABLE! (+ 1 hr gameplay)

Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:03 am

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The judge likes to bat his eyes at me alot... :x

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Re: Turnabout Substitution - DEMO AVAILABLE! (+ 1 hr gameplay)

Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:10 am

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∑ή¡gΜåг wrote:

The judge likes to bat his eyes at me alot... :x

He wouldn't if you gave Rhea googly eyes a bit less often. (Don't think we don't know.)

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Re: Turnabout Substitution - DEMO AVAILABLE! (+ 1 hr gameplay)

Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:13 am

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Bad Player wrote:

∑ή¡gΜåг wrote:

The judge likes to bat his eyes at me alot... :x

He wouldn't if you gave Rhea googly eyes a bit less often. (Don't think we don't know.)

I only played the first 3 minutes before my game crashed on me when I tried to save (I obviously didn't read the forums) so... no googly eyes here, he just bats away... XD

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Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:26 pm

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MrCheeze > Actually, "char nothing" is a valid command, as there is a character called "nothing" with a blank sprite in art/port. At the time I started doing this, "char" didn't work for me. Now it does, but I'm too lazy to go through everything once again.

∑ή¡gΜåг > Yeah, that is kind of annoving. Sorry for the crash ;(

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Re: Turnabout Substitution - DEMO AVAILABLE! (+ 1 hr gameplay)

Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:13 pm

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Oh and Bad Player, do you mind if I call you Bad Punster?

1. Yes.
2. Why would you want to call me that?!

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Re: Turnabout Substitution - DEMO AVAILABLE! (+ 1 hr gameplay)

Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:52 pm

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The whole bat / googly thing. But nevermind, back on topic... I have a long weekend, which means I might be able to get the whole first part of trial day 1 done by monday.

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Re: Turnabout Substitution - DEMO AVAILABLE! (+ 1 hr gameplay)

Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:08 pm

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There's no nothing character for me, probably it's just leftover from an earlier version. It's possible I deleted mine though, I'll check later.

Re: Turnabout Substitution - DEMO AVAILABLE! (+ 1 hr gameplay)

Sat May 02, 2009 1:17 am

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I'm annoyed that Your Honor on the characters section on CR is using the Suprised emotion. I have the Normal emotion profile right here.

To make it I pasted part of Your Honor's normal(blink).png onto a black evidence box.
This is just in case you wanted to use this in TS.

EDIT: As MrCheeze stated, they probably used the surprised look so that Your Honor is facing towards the player. He also stated that Your Honor would probably look better if they used the Angry emotion.
Fortunately I came up with the Angry pose. :will:

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Sat May 02, 2009 1:27 am

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I think it was used on purpose because it faces forward... the angry-ish one would've been a better choice though.

Re: Turnabout Substitution - DEMO AVAILABLE! (+ 1 hr gameplay)

Sat May 02, 2009 7:26 am

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MrCheeze wrote:

I think it was used on purpose because it faces forward... the angry-ish one would've been a better choice though.

> Yep, that's what I had in mind. The angry-ish one is good, but I also had other reasons for using the surprised emotion: I thought it really captured the essence of the character. Still, I'll consider changing it.

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