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Well as you may have seen in Japanesegirl's report two new characters have been revealed in this months famitsu. Rou Shiryuu, an "international investigator" and his assistant Shiina. They appear to be in the water park case.

Shiryuu looks very similar to Tigre in my opinion, but given one of his kanji means wolf, I'd say they are aiming for another animal-like character. Shiina is foreign according to Japanesegirl and is looking very attractive so far, she looks like the quiet type. Perhaps these two will have a similar sort of relationship as Tigre and Viola.

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Like I said in another thread, this guy reminds me of the parody of Dog the Bounty Hunter from Reno 911 for some reason.

I guess from his looks he looks like one of those private investigators that come in to make the real cops and detectives look bad. He seems like he might care abou appearance more than actually solving a case (probably only in it for fame and money).

I agree that his companion looks like the quiet type. If she is foreign I wonder if they'll go for American again like they did with the Karumas and Garyuus (von Karmas and Gavins). Also, I wonder if they'll go with German as her ethnicity in the American version. It seems as is if that trope is over used in these games. I hope they pick another European country (there are so many to choose from). For that matter in the Japanese version she could be from Europe too. Not all foreigners are American.

Does the scan reveal their ages?
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Japanesegirl said she hasn't seen the full article yet, so I'd expect to find out the ages in a few days.
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Japanesegirl said she hasn't seen the full article yet, so I'd expect to find out the ages in a few days.


Awesome, thanks for the info.
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The guy does look an awful lot like ol' Furio. It's the hair and the angry eyebrows.
He has to be one of the cocky and mean but terribly attractive guys, there's no other way with that character design. The girl does indeed look like the quiet type. I bet she's stunningly pretty, but very secretive. Maybe even Ice Queen-y. They make a good pair. D:
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Yeah right now we don't have much to go on. We'll have to wait for the full scan.

Though I wonder what their appearance does for the theory that Makoto Yuuki is a recurring character throughout the game. I mean, just how many rivals can you have, hmm? :keiko:
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Yeah right now we don't have much to go on. We'll have to wait for the full scan.

Though I wonder what their appearance does for the theory that Makoto Yuuki is a recurring character throughout the game. I mean, just how many rivals can you have, hmm? :keiko:


Maybe... Maybe they're going to be Gumshoe's rival? They are investigators after all... Actually...

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I think that they will become useful to Edgeworth, and find more clues than Gumshoe ever could. Gumshoe, depressed and feeling useless, quits as Edgeworth's partner. However, he sees something that makes him suspicious and leaves Edgeworth a note about it. Edgeworth ignores it for a while but eventually decides to investigate. He goes and finds Gumshoe, and there's some heartwarming scene where Edgeworth convinces him that he is useful. Together they investigate the pair and find out that they are actually the murders in the last case. Perhaps the investigation of them carries over for more than one case, and sometimes seems fruitless, but everything comes together in the end to convict them of some terrible crime.... and Gumshoe gets a raise. (Just had to add that...)
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These look like the bad guys. Also strangely not PW.
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I predict a killer. A painfully obvious one like Tigre.

Animal based characters are always killers (I.e. Tigre and Daryan)
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I predict a killer. A painfully obvious one like Tigre.

Animal based characters are always killers (I.e. Tigre and Daryan)


What about Phoenix? That's an animal too.
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Croik wrote:
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I predict a killer. A painfully obvious one like Tigre.

Animal based characters are always killers (I.e. Tigre and Daryan)


What about Phoenix? That's an animal too.


If you want to get technical, a phoenix is a mythical being. I'm sure mythical beings are exceptions to this rule.
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But phoenix doesn't actually look like a phoenix, really....

Unless he secretly sets himself on fire outside the courtroom...

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:yuusaku: The chic looks kinda like that one soul calibur character with the whip sword that liked to say "strangle" alot... what was her name... Ivy?
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I BET THE GIRL IS THE OLDER VON KARMA SISTER.

YOU KNOW.

BECAUSE SHE'S FEMALE.

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mabey these rivals of gumshoe but since gumshoe works with mr.edgey they become rivals with him and key girl to my idea is that wolfie suppose to be the opposite of gumshoe and quite girl suppose to be the opposite of key girl


wolfie ( my nickname for him cause im to lazy to learn his real name) looks like the over self confident (and lucky) unhonest rich asshole type who only thinks about himself who opposite to gumshoe the very honest sweet poor guy who tries his hardest for others but doesn't have the best of luck

quite girl kinda gives of the cold indifferent and overly calm vibe why key girl kinds gives off the cheerful overly curios and michevous vibe

but again im just making assumption based of picture it's just a guestiment

i also think there going to end up being the killers in something though they just give of that genaric villian feel :eh?:
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new scan (check the news), it appears that they both wear sunglasses as well.
But given the character's jobs do you reckon we'll get some sort of indirect Letouse reference?
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From the new scans it LOOKS like they're all standing in the middle of some large stadium thing. I would guess that this is the Concert venue that we've seen the concept art from. However, you can't see much of it and it doesn't look very much like the thing in the concept art so I'm not completely sure. :yuusaku:
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These look like the bad guys. Also strangely not PW.

I guess the investigators have to fight with the dangerous criminals , and that's why they look like Street Fighter characters. :gangsta:
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Hmm... the kanji for Rou (狼) means "wolf" ("ookami").

The kanji in Shiryuu (土龍) are the kanji for "earth" and "dragon" (interestingly, the same kanji for dragon as is in both Ryuuichi Naruhodo and Kaminogi Souryuu's name, rather than the more common 竜). Those two kanji (土龍) written together, though, mean "mole" ("mogura") as in the animal.
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These look like the bad guys. Also strangely not PW.

I guess the investigators have to fight with the dangerous criminals , and that's why they look like Street Fighter characters. :gangsta:


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I'm not really fond of these new designs. They look kinda plain to me. The names are not much better...

I'm guessing that the reason Rou hates prosecutors is because he works hard to get criminals, but if the prosecutor doesn't do their job well enough the guy can still go free--maybe an important criminal got away because of shoddy prosecution work? Though I do hope there's more to it than that.

I find it interesting that they describe Rou and Shiina as having a "strong bond of trust" in the same way Gumshoe describes himself and Edgeworth. Bets on if they're sleeping together? :hotti:
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Hmm... the kanji for Rou (狼) means "wolf" ("ookami").

The kanji in Shiryuu (土龍) are the kanji for "earth" and "dragon" (interestingly, the same kanji for dragon as is in both Ryuuichi Naruhodo and Kaminogi Souryuu's name, rather than the more common 竜). Those two kanji (土龍) written together, though, mean "mole" ("mogura") as in the animal.


Actually his name is 狼士龍 rather than 狼土龍, even 土 and 士 look really alike, they are totally different characters.

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These look like the bad guys. Also strangely not PW.

I guess the investigators have to fight with the dangerous criminals , and that's why they look like Street Fighter characters. :gangsta:


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火曜日 wrote:
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Hmm... the kanji for Rou (狼) means "wolf" ("ookami").

The kanji in Shiryuu (土龍) are the kanji for "earth" and "dragon" (interestingly, the same kanji for dragon as is in both Ryuuichi Naruhodo and Kaminogi Souryuu's name, rather than the more common 竜). Those two kanji (土龍) written together, though, mean "mole" ("mogura") as in the animal.


Actually his name is 狼士龍 rather than 狼土龍, even 土 and 士 look really alike, they are totally different characters.

Ah, my bad. An easy mistake to make.

That certainly makses the pronunciation make sense, however. 士龍 (Shiryuu) = gentleman dragon.

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He looks like a cocky, loud-mouthed hothead to me.
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I find it interesting that they describe Rou and Shiina as having a "strong bond of trust" in the same way Gumshoe describes himself and Edgeworth. Bets on if they're sleeping together? :hotti:


I would say that odds are high that Rou and Shiina are sleeping together. I'm sure the game won't come out and say it explicitly, but I think it will be heavily implied (think Redd White and April May--they shared the Hotel room together, so don't tell me they didn't use it for all its worth).
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I find it interesting that they describe Rou and Shiina as having a "strong bond of trust" in the same way Gumshoe describes himself and Edgeworth. Bets on if they're sleeping together? :hotti:


Either that or Shiina secretly hates her boss and wants him dead.

Or possibly both. :hotti:

Actually, yeah, I'm gonna go with both. She's sleeping with him, working together with him for years, gaining his trust, using his desire, manipulating his love.

All for the day when she can finally betray him at the most damaging moment. And as his life slips away, he will look into the eyes of his killer, and she will speak a single name.

And he will know.

He will remember.

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Haha, I'd go for that. XD

Croik wrote:
I find it interesting that they describe Rou and Shiina as having a "strong bond of trust" in the same way Gumshoe describes himself and Edgeworth. Bets on if they're sleeping together? :hotti:


Heh. I like the way you think, Croik. :hotti:
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I find it interesting that they describe Rou and Shiina as having a "strong bond of trust" in the same way Gumshoe describes himself and Edgeworth. Bets on if they're sleeping together? :hotti:
they totally are! i mean there matching fluffy scarfs just scream friends with benfits lol when i first read this i thought that you were taking bets on if gumshoe and edgey were sleeping together but thats impossible cause the game producers wouldn't put that in there because the p/e fangirls would burn down capcom headcorders that and other obvious reason to i don't think they'll actually mention anybody sleeping together more like hint it
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...why do I feel like I'm looking at a clone of Rei Ayanami and a clone of Gary Oak? They're both kinda generic...
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Clearly, Rou Shiryuu is a younger version of a 3rd member of the Gavinners!

... ... ...

Yeah but anyway, I'm totally pumped for these two. They look like they'll be really fun to interact with. Rivals of sorts, it looks like?
Shiina is gorgeous, too. They both look rather mysterious.

They don't seem like the type to enjoy hanging around waterparks, so I'd like to see what kind of role they play in the case.

(I'd also like to say that those are some REALLY snappy graphics in those two screenshots! ... and I REALLY hope that isn't is isn't the Edgeymobile on the bottom image)
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I can't wait for these two.

Rou is one good looking mother fucker. And Shiina is gorgeous. I hope they're around for more than that one case (I'm betting they're the murderers though...)

I hope we get into a little backstory about them.
They remind me of Tigre and Viola, so they hopefully will get a nice little story.
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...why do I feel like I'm looking at a clone of Rei Ayanami


It's got to be the red eyes. And the similar haircut. ^_^;;
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Rou Shiryuu looks a lot like Tigre, maybe he`s going to be a big pain in the ass but in the producer`s team they must be getting bored of the prosecutor/detective caught as the murderer so it makes me think he`s not going to be a killer.

Shiina... to start: SHE`S SOO HOT!!! :hotti:

Now seriously she looks like the cold, quiet type she also gives me the idea of being a murderer (instead of the badass being the killer, I suppose that`s switching roles when we have to talk about the Tigre/Viola reference).

I think this could happen: Makoto will be Edgy`s rival, Shiryuu will be Gumshoe`s rival and finally Shiina will be mikumo`s rival. That`s the best I could think about :phoenix:

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I think that they will become useful to Edgeworth, and find more clues than Gumshoe ever could. Gumshoe, depressed and feeling useless, quits as Edgeworth's partner. However, he sees something that makes him suspicious and leaves Edgeworth a note about it. Edgeworth ignores it for a while but eventually decides to investigate. He goes and finds Gumshoe, and there's some heartwarming scene where Edgeworth convinces him that he is useful. Together they investigate the pair and find out that they are actually the murders in the last case. Perhaps the investigation of them carries over for more than one case, and sometimes seems fruitless, but everything comes together in the end to convict them of some terrible crime.... and Gumshoe gets a raise. (Just had to add that...)


That sound just like your fic : Hahahahahaha! :gant: (It was a friendly laugh just for you to know)
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Rou Shiryuu looks a lot like Tigre, maybe he`s going to be a big pain in the ass but in the producer`s team they must be getting bored of the prosecutor/detective caught as the murderer so it makes me think he`s not going to be a killer.

Shiina... to start: SHE`S SOO HOT!!! :hotti:

Now seriously she looks like the cold, quiet type she also gives me the idea of being a murderer (instead of the badass being the killer, I suppose that`s switching roles whe we have to talk about the Tigre/Viola reference).

I think this could happen: Makoto will be Edgy`s rival, Shiryuu will be Gumshoe`s rival and finally Shiina will be mikumo`s rival. That`s the best I could think about :phoenix:


I think that would be cool if she was the murderer instead of him. I really hope this isn't just a copy of Tigre and Viola.

The rivals thing makes sense too... Heh... Now I want to see Shiina and Key Girl get into a slap fight.

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I think that they will become useful to Edgeworth, and find more clues than Gumshoe ever could. Gumshoe, depressed and feeling useless, quits as Edgeworth's partner. However, he sees something that makes him suspicious and leaves Edgeworth a note about it. Edgeworth ignores it for a while but eventually decides to investigate. He goes and finds Gumshoe, and there's some heartwarming scene where Edgeworth convinces him that he is useful. Together they investigate the pair and find out that they are actually the murders in the last case. Perhaps the investigation of them carries over for more than one case, and sometimes seems fruitless, but everything comes together in the end to convict them of some terrible crime.... and Gumshoe gets a raise. (Just had to add that...)


That sound just like your fic : Hahahahahaha! :gant: (It was a friendly laugh just for you to know)


Woah, it does now that I think about it. ^^;
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The rivals thing makes sense too... Heh... Now I want to see Shiina and Key Girl get into a slap fight.


I think Mikumo would be the only one interested in the fight. I think Shiina's the type of girl to grab Mikumo's hand before impact and somehow use this to break every bone in Mikumos body and just walk away. Leaving Edgeworth wondering what the fuck happenned.

I think it'd be cool if Edgeworth had a "Why is no one arresting these people?!" moment.
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I think Mikumo would be the only one interested in the fight. I think Shiina's the type of girl to grab Mikumo's hand before impact and somehow use this to break every bone in Mikumos body and just walk away. Leaving Edgeworth wondering what the fuck happenned.


Yeah, I imagine that as well. Shiina would definitely win. ^_^;;

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I think Mikumo would be the only one interested in the fight. I think Shiina's the type of girl to grab Mikumo's hand before impact and somehow use this to break every bone in Mikumos body and just walk away. Leaving Edgeworth wondering what the fuck happenned.


Yeah, I imagine that as well. Shiina would definitely win. ^_^;;


I wouldn't be surprised if she would beat Edgeworth up in one hit. She seems like the kind of person to be outrageously ripped but no one knows it.
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I wouldn't be surprised if she would beat Edgeworth up in one hit. She seems like the kind of person to be outrageously ripped but no one knows it.


Hahaha. I just got the image of her grasping onto Edgey's wrist and him being like, "Please don't hurt me!" XD

She probably trains in some sort of secret dark martial arts or something. O_o
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crouton wrote:
SaraVera wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if she would beat Edgeworth up in one hit. She seems like the kind of person to be outrageously ripped but no one knows it.


Hahaha. I just got the image of her grasping onto Edgey's wrist and him being like, "Please don't hurt me!" XD

She probably trains in some sort of secret dark martial arts or something. O_o


"Now I know how Gumshoe feels when he sees Franziska"

In a secluded area surround by mountains, she has her own dojo, of the most fearsome warriors in the world who she teaches how to fight with their bare teeth. Actually, Ryo is HER secretary.
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SaraVera wrote:
"Now I know how Gumshoe feels when he sees Franziska"

In a secluded area surround by mountains, she has her own dojo, of the most fearsome warriors in the world who she teaches how to fight with their bare teeth. Actually, Ryo is HER secretary.


Hahaha. XD Yes, just YES. XD
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