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SS Tier
Meta Knight 15.00

S Tier
Snake 13.91

A Tier
Falco 13.03
King Dedede 12.94
Mr. Game & Watch 12.50
Marth 12.09
Diddy Kong 11.94

B Tier
Wario 11.47
R.O.B. 11.38
Lucario 10.94
Olimar 10.94

C Tier
Pikachu 10.34
Kirby 10.16
Donkey Kong 10.06
Ice Climbers 9.59

D Tier
Zero Suit Samus 8.88
Toon Link 8.47
Pit 8.44
Peach 8.16
Wolf 7.91

E Tier
Luigi 7.41
Zelda 7.03
Bowser 6.91
Fox 6.66
Sheik 6.44
Ike 5.91

F Tier
Mario 4.56
Lucas 4.50
Ness 4.50
Samus 4.41
Sonic 4.16
Pokémon Trainer 3.94
Yoshi 3.66

G Tier
Link 2.28
Jigglypuff 2.03
Ganondorf 1.88
Captain Falcon 1.63
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Alright, so I know this has been done to death, but I may as well post my ideas for the next game (should that come around).

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Characters that would be great in the next game
Travis Touchdown - The Otaku Assassin: This would be an excellent one. His moveset is attributed for in the game. Rather than the, at times, bland grabs the other Brawlers have, he'd be able to use his patented wrestling moves. Commanding the Schpeltiger like Wario's bike move is a must. His beam katana could be upgraded via grabbing the other beam swords from item drops. So he'd start with the Blood Berry, but if he picked up a Beam Sword it would turn into a Tsubumaki MK-1, and if he picked up another one it would be the MK-2, and if he took another it would be the MK-3. His Final Smash would consist of Roulette, which opens up some other options: Dark Side Mode, which turns the screen monochrome and gives Travis the ability to Instant KO anybody unfortunate to come across him, drawback is that it only lasts twenty seconds and he can only walk; STRAWBERRY ON THE SHORTCAKE! which turns Travis superfast and able to take down HP in an instant, though he can't KO anyone in this stage or move ANYONE for that matter; or THIS IS THE END! where he just has higher damage power.
Phoenix Wright - Ace Attorney: YAY OVERUSED IDEAS :D In all honesty, his combat spectrum is very limited. He could be unlocked by obtaining every other character, then as the screen is about to go 'YAY YOU UNLOCKED EVERYBODY' you hear Phoenix's OBJECTION! and you get to fight him. Given Phoenix's alleged strength, I could see his fighting style as a sort of street fighter; focusing on hard, accurate but slow hits so that the opponent doesn't get up. Mind you, Phoenix does not fight as much as the other combatants and should reflect that. The shoulder ram displayed in Justice For All could be put to good use here. His primary ranged attack would be TAKE THAT! where he throws a random piece of evidence that shatters upon hitting an enemy. However, if it does not collide, it drops to the ground where somebody else can take it. His Final Smash I can see one of two possibilities: The Dream Sequence from Justice For All where the Demon Judge pounds the gavel that knocks all the opponents, or a Super Objection with Mia that sends opponents in a short state of paralyzation, allowing Phoenix to knock them out. His recovery special should be
Albert Wesker: Tyrant: Wesker's moveset would be a fast hitter, though only short bursts and with plenty of damage to boot. Given that he's incredibly powerful, with strength rivalling a Tyrant. His specials should consist of either POWERFUL attacks or weaponry such as pistols. A Final Smash for Wesker would be calling upon a Tyrant such as Nemesis from RE3 to rampage around the stage damaging anything that comes into contact.

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I want these people in the NEXT game;
Phoenix Wright
Miles Edgeworth
Apollo Justice
Tails from Sonic
Klonoa and Huepow
Spyro the Dragon (or is that too SONY for them?)
Waluigi
Krystal from Star Fox
Roselina from SMG and MKWii
Nester from Nintendo Power
Nintendo DS (which in colors you can give it a Lite or DSi look)
Nintendo Wii

and maybe... Mii compatiblity!
Unless the next game is for DS or DSi or A NEW DS (or Wii) OF SORTS. :O
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Spyro is way too sony....and crap too but at least Snake and Sonic have a place in nintendo Spyro ain't been on any of the major platforms...though maybe there is a DS or GBA game with Spyro? I dunno.
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Herr Blondie wrote:
Spyro is way too sony....and crap too but at least Snake and Sonic have a place in nintendo Spyro ain't been on any of the major platforms...though maybe there is a DS or GBA game with Spyro? I dunno.

Yes There are a few GBA and DS games with Spyro,
I have one of them actually, Spyro season of ice.

I think the best Spyro games were before all this Legend of Spyro new stuff,
Those games were; Spyro the dragon (PS1), Spyro Riptos' rage (PS1), and Spyro year of the dragon (PS1), Which does make Spyro WAAAAAAAAAY too Sony for a Nintendo game like the Smash Bros. series.
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I think the best Spyro games were before all this Legend of Spyro new stuff,


Spyro started going downhill after Year of the Dragon. To be honest, the reboot of the series isn't bad, but it's just repetitive.
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I have my Brawl videos on there, mostly my Clan team matches. And yes, that is my Youtube account.
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Well, I kinda' have a lot of people I play with...
Let's list!

Marth, Shiek, Lucas, Ice Climbers, Luigi, Toon Link, Captain Falcon, Kirby, Peach, and I'm starting to get better with Yoshi.
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I mainly play with Pit, His recovery is brilliant and his arrows come in handy too
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Ike is overrated.
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Link.

Bitch.

Also, next Smash should go to our favorite portable. Come on, who WOULDN'T buy Super Smash Bros. DS!!! WITH NEW CHARACTERS! AND NO FUCKING ICE CLIMBERS!

Speaking about characters, this is my list for the next SSB:
-Megaman (He should have been in Melee. Come on, you know you want it)
-Goku/Any reasonable DBZ character. (It's a fighting game, people. Where the hell is Goku!?!? AND I DON'T EVEN LIKE DBZ!)
-Eliwood, from Fire Emblem, for non-knowers (Goodbye, Marth. YOU SUCK.)
-Gant :|
-Some Castlevania char (It got popular.)
-A joke char (like R.O.B.), maybe... Luis DeNonno? (Hotel Dusk stickers=Clue???)
-It's not even likely they add an AA character.

Oh, and Team Final Smashes. You know, Mario + Luigi = Mario to the right, Luigi uses Negative Zone or sth, paralizes both enemies and throws them to the middle, jumps behind Mario, Mario uses his actual super-flamey Final Smash.
Yeah, I had that idea a long time ago.
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-A joke char (like R.O.B.), maybe... Luis DeNonno? (Hotel Dusk stickers=Clue???)

A joke character like R.O.B?
Hmm... R.O.B is a Nintendo game console-like thingy, so... how about a Nintendo DS as a joke character? and you could also change its costume to Lite, just like how you can change Normal Wario into Warioware Wario in Brawl.
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Link.

Bitch.

Also, next Smash should go to our favorite portable. Come on, who WOULDN'T buy Super Smash Bros. DS!!! WITH NEW CHARACTERS! AND NO FUCKING ICE CLIMBERS!

Speaking about characters, this is my list for the next SSB:
-Megaman (He should have been in Melee. Come on, you know you want it)
-Goku/Any reasonable DBZ character. (It's a fighting game, people. Where the hell is Goku!?!? AND I DON'T EVEN LIKE DBZ!)
-Eliwood, from Fire Emblem, for non-knowers (Goodbye, Marth. YOU SUCK.)
-Gant :|
-Some Castlevania char (It got popular.)
-A joke char (like R.O.B.), maybe... Luis DeNonno? (Hotel Dusk stickers=Clue???)
-It's not even likely they add an AA character.

Oh, and Team Final Smashes. You know, Mario + Luigi = Mario to the right, Luigi uses Negative Zone or sth, paralizes both enemies and throws them to the middle, jumps behind Mario, Mario uses his actual super-flamey Final Smash.
Yeah, I had that idea a long time ago.

1. Has it not been made abundantly clear that SSB only features characters created originally for video games, that have some significance to nintendo? No Goku.
2.Marth certainly does not suck, as most avid players will tell you, and I am not even one of them.
3. Have you ever played as R.O.B? He plays too well to be a joke character.
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Well, yeah, he isn't a console per se. So, a joke character could be, like R.O.B., something absolutely non-fighting. Turning Mr. Saturn into playable, adding Gant as an assist trophy, (if your enemy is Lucas or Ness, the damage is double, since they die once for Teh Glare O' Doom and once running away. Adult characters don't run, but die with Teh Glare.) or adding Dunning Smith as an assist trophy too ("YE MUST PAY FAR YA NITE OR YA'LL SLEEP OUTSIDE, BUDDAY". And all enemies die in an explosion of WTF, then he turns around and kills you. Twice. The price of awesome.)

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1. No. It hasn't been clear. And if it has, all "Phoenix for Brawl" hype is idiot and so are its promoters, you say. And I don't see why Goku couldn't make it.
2. He does. Ike is enough. Ike > Marth. Everything > Marth. And I am an avid player. I've played with all characters, and my main ones are Link, Snake and R.O.B. And my least used ones are Mr. Game & Watch, Marth and Wario. All in that order.
3. I don't mean how he plays. R.O.B. rocks. It's even my third main. See above. But they added him as a joke. No matter how well he plays, he's still as much as a joke character as Sonic a fanservice character.

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And I am an avid player.

Avid =/= good.
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1. No. It hasn't been clear. And if it has, all "Phoenix for Brawl" hype is idiot and so are its promoters, you say. And I don't see why Goku couldn't make it.


As I recall, there were two seperate requirements for 3rd Party characters to be included in Brawl.
1. The character had to have appeared on a Nintendo console at some point.
2. The character had to have originated from a video game or game franchise.


Under those requirements, someone like Goku would not be acceptable as he did is not originally from a video game, but Phoenix Wright would. I'm not saying Phoenix Wright would be any better of a pick for SSBB than Goku (and really, I don't think either of them are very good picks), but simply that he did have much more of a chance. And please, know what you're talking about before putting words in other people's mouths.


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2. He does. Ike is enough. Ike > Marth. Everything > Marth. And I am an avid player. I've played with all characters, and my main ones are Link, Snake and R.O.B. And my least used ones are Mr. Game & Watch, Marth and Wario. All in that order.

I fail to see how you being an "avid" player has anything to do with how good a character is. Marth may not be as "good" as Ike, but that hardly makes him a bad character. I mean, I can beat Ike with the Ice Climbers, so does that mean the Ice Climbers are better than Ike?


And R.O.B. is not a joke character. Pichu was a joke character. R.O.B. is fanservice, and a reference to Nintendo's past. Simply because the actual toy can't hover or fire laser beams doesn't make the Brawl version a joke character.
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I'd like to see Neku Sakuraba and Claus from Mother 3 to appear in SSB4: Scrap!

I bet that'll be the name.
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I'd like to see Neku Sakuraba and Claus from Mother 3 to appear in SSB4: Scrap!

I bet that'll be the name.


Nah it'll be Frenzy as the next title.

Umm....I'd like to see...Chrono from Chrono trigger in it, I mean it was on the SNES and now DS right? Plus he seems pretty awesome.
Plus I love Toriyama's artwork and he's a good fighter to fit in right? :yuusaku:

Though apparently one of Lucas' colour changes is Claus...though I've no idea what Claus looks like or if mother was good or not.
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Goodbye, Marth. YOU SUCK.

He does. Ike is enough. Ike > Marth. Everything > Marth. And I am an avid player. I've played with all characters, and my main ones are Link, Snake and R.O.B. And my least used ones are Mr. Game & Watch, Marth and Wario. All in that order.


Marth doesn't suck, all characters are all the same, it depends on the player not the character. Everyone has different styles and opinions, such as tiers and rankings, (I guess those are the same O_O) But none of the characters suck just to tell you, it's just the players' view of the character.
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I mostly play as: Kirby, Toon Link and Jigglypuff.

Well my list for appearing characters:
Apollo or Phoenix
Daisy (mario series)
Tails
Neku and Shiki as a sort of ice-climber like duo.
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In fact, I see Ike way TOO slow. Though he's pretty strong, I give you that. But come on. When I play with friends and the Smash Ball appears and I'm using Ike, I can't get the damn thing because the guy is too slow and heavy. In Sudden Death, the only way to kill with him is use the down smash, one of the few semi-fast attacks the guy has. Don't try the A>A>A> combo. It doesn't work.
Oh, and Marth is not bad. Geez, there isn't a bad character. I just CAN'T use Ice Climbers, and that doesn't mean they're bad. I LOVE using Samus, and that doesn't mean she's good.

And the "R.O.B is a joke character" thing. I think he/she means R.O.B was a character that nobody wanted (at least here in Europe, when it was known that R.O.B was in Brawl, some people nearly killed themselves. no kidding), and it wasn't meant to fight. Just like Mr. Game & Watch in Melee, if I'm not mistaken.
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In fact, I see Ike way TOO slow. Though he's pretty strong, I give you that. But come on. When I play with friends and the Smash Ball appears and I'm using Ike, I can't get the damn thing because the guy is too slow and heavy.


If Ike was strong AND fast, he'd pretty much be a gamebreaker. Besides, all powerful characters are slow anyway (just as weaker characters are also usually the fastest).

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In Sudden Death, the only way to kill with him is use the down smash, one of the few semi-fast attacks the guy has. Don't try the A>A>A> combo. It doesn't work.


Really? I just use his Counter move and it works like a charm. :psycho-matt:
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Haru_San wrote:
In fact, I see Ike way TOO slow. Though he's pretty strong, I give you that. But come on. When I play with friends and the Smash Ball appears and I'm using Ike, I can't get the damn thing because the guy is too slow and heavy.


If Ike was strong AND fast, he'd pretty much be a gamebreaker. Besides, all powerful characters are slow anyway (just as weaker characters are also usually the fastest).

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In Sudden Death, the only way to kill with him is use the down smash, one of the few semi-fast attacks the guy has. Don't try the A>A>A> combo. It doesn't work.


Really? I just use his Counter move and it works like a charm. :psycho-matt:



Of course he HAS to be slow, I never said he has to be fast and strong. That would make him just cheap. But he could be a little weaker and a little faster... or maybe not. He'd probably be a Marth clone.

And for the second. Yeah, well. But Ike's counter is a bit too predictable. I usually use the counter with Marth in Sudden Death, but just because his is faster. And I'm not very fond of Ike and I don't use him much, so I don't know how to use him properly, let alone do the counter at the right time. I use him sometimes, but he's not one of my mains.
I prefer the down smash because it has a great reach, it's powerful and fast.
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Captain Falcon always struck me as the unusually strong AND fast character with an alright moveset.
I ain't denying he's strong and fast hell he's got the falcon punch but I don't know what makes him not a game breaker is he light?
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Yes. He was toned down a bit in Brawl, too.
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Captain Falcon always struck me as the unusually strong AND fast character with an alright moveset.
I ain't denying he's strong and fast hell he's got the falcon punch but I don't know what makes him not a game breaker is he light?

They took away a lot of his killing power. Essentially what he is now is a guy that moves really fast with a ton of weak, slow as balls moves. It also doesn't help that characters are generally harder to kill in this game anyway and that his moves gradually get weaker with the stale move mechanic.

Ah yes, the stale move mechanic; a bigger joke of a thing there has never been.
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the main problem with falcon is that his priority sucks ass!!! :(, stupid sakurai!!
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I don't know what makes him not a game breaker is he light?

More like the game breaks him.

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Captain Falcon always struck me as the unusually strong AND fast character with an alright moveset.
I ain't denying he's strong and fast hell he's got the falcon punch but I don't know what makes him not a game breaker is he light?

They took away a lot of his killing power. Essentially what he is now is a guy that moves really fast with a ton of weak, slow as balls moves. It also doesn't help that characters are generally harder to kill in this game anyway and that his moves gradually get weaker with the stale move mechanic.

Ah yes, the stale move mechanic; a bigger joke of a thing there has never been.


Yea I guess...he doesn't seem as powerful as he was in melee not by a long shot and I find his final smash hard to hit with.

On another note what do people think of Sonic in terms of ability?
I'd heard he wasn't particularly good but me and my friend find him fun to use and not bad either plus his final smash is fatal.
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Herr Blondie wrote:
On another note what do people think of Sonic in terms of ability?
I'd heard he wasn't particularly good but me and my friend find him fun to use and not bad either plus his final smash is really cheap.


Fixed for accuracy. :keiko:
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On another note what do people think of Sonic in terms of ability?
I'd heard he wasn't particularly good but me and my friend find him fun to use and not bad either plus his final smash is fatal.

His FS is his best move. Everything else about Sonic is quite meh.
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Sonic's brilliant when you can use him properly!




Like every other character, but I think Sonic is kinda hard to use. When I pick him, I always end killing myself because he's very fast!
I seriously admire anyone who can master his speed xD
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I didn't find his speed that devastating, his up B recovery is great should you accidentally run off a ledge.
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Herr Blondie wrote:
I didn't find his speed that devastating, his up B recovery is great should you accidentally run off a ledge.



Sonic + Mario Circuit = Epic Fail.
Same goes for the Bridge of Eldin.
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I know how to use most of the characters including Sonic, buit Sonic isn't that hard to use. To me, he's not that fast O_O His moves are slow, but he's quick getting around to places, so I would say he's like everyone else.
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Haru_San wrote:
Herr Blondie wrote:
I didn't find his speed that devastating, his up B recovery is great should you accidentally run off a ledge.



Sonic + Mario Circuit = Epic Fail.
Same goes for the Bridge of Eldin.


Bridge of Eldin I would thought would work for him, after all a nice flat surface you can just use his Down B or Side B to just blast through opponents.
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