Well, since Ceres locked my new topic, as I wasn't sure of myself if I should revive this old one, I will do so. Anyways, let's move on with the sprites.
(Thanks, Ceres, for locking my topic.)

Timeline:
Late 2008 - November/December.

Early 2009 - January/February





Early 2010: January/February







[what's happened so far:]
- 01/20/2009: Topic posted, Julie Law and first PW work added
- 01/28/2009: "Comment begging", added Godot+Larry mix.
- 01/29/2009: First comment in topic
- 01/30/2009: Johann Isaacson added to the gallery.
- 02/02/2009: Johann Isaacson edited
- 01/09/2010: New topic created and locked; posted new OC Chris Toll.
- 17/01/2010: New unnamed OC. Edited it.
- 19/01/2010: Added a few new poses to new OC, John Shades.
- 21/01/2010: More new poses for John Shades; Another OC Hugo Craise.
- 23/01/2010: Added a few new poses for Hugo.
- 28/01/2010: New OC Rosa Stone.
- 31/01/2010: New OC Doug Deep.
- 03/02/2010: Added John Shades (Revamp Version)

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Last edited by Hybrid~Fusion on Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:38 am, edited 26 times in total.

Well, I don't exactly know what to say, because...no one commented at all. ^^'
Well, it may sound rude...but I really want to know why hasn't anyone commented yet...I mean, I know I'm not the greatest spriter in the world, but I did some works that are better than others, and still those others had criticism. Are my sprites so bad that you guys really don't want to comment or it's something else? I just want to know this. Anyway, I added a simple edit, a mixture of Larry and Godot. (Please comment! XD)

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Pro-tip: No one likes a comment begger. Also, black text does not make the easiest read on this forum skin! It helps to say in your post that you're looking specifically for critique as well.

As for that critique, they do look like first time efforts - not horrible, but a little rough. Your OC Julie looks like she's got her boobs up way too high. It makes her look a little preggers or something XD.

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Well, I'm not exactly begging for comments...It's because 8 days passed and no one commented...
Anyway, I promise I won't beg anymore, if that's what you guys are thinking I'm doing.
(Thanks Croik! Oh, do you prefer it white?)
Well, for Julie, it's because her dress wasn't exactly made for court...I took it from Alita and edited it a little bit. However, she'll be getting an upgrade sonner this year.

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Well, there's not so much to comment on. But that Larry-Godot is pretty funny.

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Time to enter again.
Abaut ya'r new avy...It's pretty nice, however, it hase the basic mistakes in it.
- That lil pocket on wrong side
- Buttonups on wrong side

But othervise...(?)...I like it.

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The buttons I can understand...but what's the problem of a pocket being on the other side?(Be glad I didn't post him with the attorney's badge XD.)

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Why not just leave it the forum default color?



Most male suits have the pocket on the left breast.

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Maybe its a female suit ;D

Naw I kid.
I learned that thing about buttons and such, and I was like WTF XD

But anyway, its pretty good.
I looks a bit to much like Apollo still though.

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Yeah, I know it, but I have to start somewhere, right? Well, I'll try fixing the pocket later and I'll edit with the result.

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wow, you made him with a touchpad? Nice, I don't have the patience for that.
He could use some more forehead though.

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Well, I updated Johann's sprite. Now the buttons are on the right place and the pocket is now on the left side of the suit. As for the forehead...it's because he has too much hair.

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After a year of absence, I tried to start again by creating a new topic. However, since I now know I couldn't, I'm reviving this one. Constructive criticism is always welcome.

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I like the Larry/Godot one.

Well, I've posted another OC. He hasn't gotten a name yet (Open to suggestions), but I can say he's a detective.

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He sort of looks like he's scared of someone grabbing his tits or something, but it's a good start.

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Crap...there's always an issue with something. Anyway, I tried to fix it.


EDIT: New poses added, better left arm:

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His arms are really small.

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Well, I tried to fix that, but I'm not sure about his arms yet. For updates, I've got new poses:

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Sorry for double posting, but I've got another update for the day.

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Triple posting, yeah... two days have passed without a single comment. But I'm not giving up. To prove it, I have more poses for Hugo

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Oh, I like your OCs<3

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New OC Rosa Stone:

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I like the new sprite but most of your customs seem a little 2D, but great start

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I think you're OC's are pretty good, but there is some room for improvement.
Try giving them some shading, so they don't look too flat.
For the Godot+Larry Edit, I think you've done a good job on it.

I hope to see you improve further more!

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New OC! Doug Deep joins the team:

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John Shades arms are terrible :(

No offence, but they're so thin they look like sticks.

Also as for the pose, look at yourself in the mirror with your arms folded... they don't just cross each other completely straight, they fold a bit at the wrist, tuck behind each other etc.

Your ideas look good, I'd just suggest a little shading, and making sure you have proportions down. Perhaps use some of the existing sprites and edit them to look more like your OCs.

Well, yeah, that's what I'm trying to do right now, TR_Wolf. John and Chris were early projects, I'm trying to fix them right now (Although I can't promise to post ASAP). Thanks for the tips anyway.

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NEW - John Shades Revamp!

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Hello there. Before we start, I'd like to ask you not to get offended. I'm sorry if I'll come off as blunt or even rude sometimes. My intention is not to make you feel bad, but to give you an impression of what should you work on.

First of all, comparing Julie Law to your newest sprites, I see that you've improved a lot and your grasp of anatomy is better. However, without beating around the bush, it's still very poor.

Let's start with Chris Toll. The anatomy is horrible. The arms connect to the body in a scary, unnatural way; the proportions are way off - it looks like his hands would reach his knees when he has his arms down. The hands look more or less like sporks.

The colouring and shading is fairly nice, but the overall sprite looks more or less flat. Actually, the whole character looks pretty much like a cheap figurine - he doesn't look like he's wearing an actual shirt nor that his hair is real. Your shading gives us an impression that the clothes are a part of his body and he's wearing a helmet. I know that it might be quite hard to make believable hair. Try not to make angular hairstyles; it's hard to pull them off realistically. While shading, try to define the individual strands.

Clothes... Remember that they tend to fold, the contour of the shadow changes depending on what it's covering. Guessing from the shading of your sprite, his body should look like this:
= ?
I'm sure that's not what you had in mind while shading that sprite. Look at Gumshoe here:

Notice the round edges of the shadows. They give us an image of a round, slightly barrel-like body. Not angular!

Hugo Craise is much better. The anatomy is better, I guess you could make his neck wider, but it doesn't stand out all that much. The clothes look good. The real problem here is his face, especially the nose. Try to stay away from cigar shaped ones, as much as you should try to stay away from angular hairstyles. Focus on vase-like noses first, they'e easier to get right. Leave the more outrageous shapes for when you feel really confident with the 'standard' ones.

I'd suggest you make your shading lighter and more delicate in that area as well.

Rosa would have to be my overall favourite. It's a very nice sprite, just make her head slightly rounder.

There aren't many problems with Doug Deep either. All he really needs is a bigger space between his eyes. And a less angular hairstyle.

John Shades... I see you've worked on the folds here, really nice. I'm not really sure about his torso... There's a large space between it and his arm on one side and none whatsoever on the other one. Try to balance it out more. Stay away from the line tool as well; use bezier, the effect is much more natural.



Overall? I applaud you for free-handing your sprites, still I would go back and look at the official one again; you have a very poor grasp on anatomy and it is a serious problem if you want to make sprites entirely from scratch. I suggest you study anatomy a little; there are many good tutorials there on internet. DeviantArt is full of them!

If you don't want to do that... There is another way, but it won't help you forever. I don't know what kind of program do you work with, but if it has layers, you will have to make use of them. Before you start your work, make up a pose using the parts of official sprites. I'd suggest you do that for the face as well. Then, you make a new layer and start your work from there, using the 'frankenstein monster' sprite as a sketch. Still, it's not a very viable method. Better grab these anatomy tutorials.

Also, the outlines of your sprites are way too sharp. Try using the antialiasing technique.

So... Thank you for putting up with me and I hope my post was of any use to you. Keep up the good work and practice ;)

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