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...if the elevator that Gregory was shot in didn't have a window?

Like, instead of this:

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... the door looked like this? (like the kind you would normally see in a hospital or a hotel):

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How do you think things would've been different, just by changing that minor detail?
I mean, because without that window, von Karma wouldn't have gotten shot, therefore not going into a rage and shooting Gregory.

I just wanna know what you guys think. It just popped in my head the other day. :3

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The bullet from the gun would have probably lodged into the elevator door, and Miles, Gregory and Yogi would've fallen unconscious.

Ergo, no reason for 1-4 to exist.
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Agreed, then we would not have the epic-ness that is 4-1.
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I had a theory a while back about von Karma being the Most Important Character in the series. I will apply it to this.

So, if von Karma wasn't shot,
Spoiler: 1-4
von Karma would not have shot Gregory.
Edgey wouldn't have wanted to become a Prosecutor, thus not driving Phoenix to become a D.A. Also, they would not have called Misty Fey (Since there was no incident to solve) and she would not have been shunned from society, thus not driving Mia to become a D.A. and sending the Fey name down the toilet
Spoiler: 3-1
Dahlia may have succeeded in killing Phoenix.
Mia would have lived. Larry Butz, Will Powers, Lana Skye, Maggey Byrde, Max Galactica, and Ron DeLite might have been convicted for murder. (Although maybe not. They could have gotten competent attorneys)
Spoiler: 1-4, 2-2
Maya wouldn't have arrested either times, both had to do with the Misty being banished.

Spoiler: 1-4
Yogi and von Karma would have had no reason to kill Hammond

3-1 wouldn't have happened, seeing as Dahlia wouldn't have met Phoenix after
Spoiler:
poisoning Diego

Spoiler: 3-3
Maggey would already be in jail, Tigre would have no one to pin the crime on.

Spoiler: 3-4
Probably would have happened the same, except Fawles might have been arrested instead of committing suicide

3-5 wouldn't have happened at all.



So..yeah. That elevator not having a window = No AA series (Maybe AJ but Phoenix wouldn't have been there to help)
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I don't totally agree with you. For me even if von Karma wasn't shot,
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he could, however, have killed Gregory Edgeworth. He had a grudge against Edgeworth because the defense attorney had accused him of creating fake evidences. That had left a mark on him, and that's why he killed, in the game, Gregory Edgeworth. So even without getting shot, he could have killed Gregory.


Anyway, it's true that without the DL-6 accident, all of the Fey problems would have not been existing at all.
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Burninator wrote:
I had a theory a while back about von Karma being the Most Important Character in the series. I will apply it to this.

-snipp'd-


So..yeah. That elevator not having a window = No AA series (Maybe AJ but Phoenix wouldn't have been there to help)

Objection to the 3-1 and 3-4 stuff.

Spoiler: 3-1, 3-4, 3-5
The main reason Dahlia was taken from Kurain was because DL-6 ruined the Fey name. If that hadn't happened, her life probably would have turned out differently and there would have been next to no chance of ever even meeting Terry or Phoenix.


And didn't you say Gregory was the most important character before? I said it was Manfred and you argued it. :yuusaku:
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Burninator wrote:
I had a theory a while back about von Karma being the Most Important Character in the series. I will apply it to this.

So, if von Karma wasn't shot,
Spoiler: 1-4
von Karma would not have shot Gregory.
Edgey wouldn't have wanted to become a Prosecutor, thus not driving Phoenix to become a D.A. Also, they would not have called Misty Fey (Since there was no incident to solve) and she would not have been shunned from society, thus not driving Mia to become a D.A. and sending the Fey name down the toilet
Spoiler: 3-1
Dahlia may have succeeded in killing Phoenix.


Spoiler:
But wouldn't Dahlia not even try to kill Phoenix? She only tried to kill him because Mia Fey and Diego Armando almost got her found guilty for the killing of Terry Fawles. So she killed Diego to stop him from finding the truth or whatever.
Without Mia to find the truth, there would be no reason for her to try to kill Diego, thus she wouldn't have to use Phoenix to hide the poison bottle. Ergo, she wouldn't have to kill him.


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Burninator wrote:
I had a theory a while back about von Karma being the Most Important Character in the series. I will apply it to this.

-snipp'd-


So..yeah. That elevator not having a window = No AA series (Maybe AJ but Phoenix wouldn't have been there to help)

Objection to the 3-1 and 3-4 stuff.

Spoiler: 3-1, 3-4, 3-5
The main reason Dahlia was taken from Kurain was because DL-6 ruined the Fey name. If that hadn't happened, her life probably would have turned out differently and there would have been next to no chance of ever even meeting Terry or Phoenix.


And didn't you say Gregory was the most important character before? I said it was Manfred and you argued it. :yuusaku:


I have an objection to your objection!
Spoiler: 3-5
Dahlia's father takes them not because the Fey name is ruined, but rather, because Morgan Fey does not become the master of Kurain. Since she's a member of the branch family, neither will Iris and Dahlia so he leaves because he personally wouldn't get power.

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Reading this, I think that if that had never happened, the entire game would've never happened. ¬¬
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So what would happen if the elavator didn't have a window.....
well thus is what I think:
Spoiler: 1-4
Von Karma still would have shot Gregory, after all he said that the elavator door opened and a gun lay at his feet so he shot Gregory. But if th shooting of shoulder didn't happen then Edgeworth may not have been taken Von Karma's wing and Edgeworth would never get involved in the 1-4 case and Von Karma wouldn't be caught.

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FirexxxSaber wrote:
Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
Burninator wrote:
I had a theory a while back about von Karma being the Most Important Character in the series. I will apply it to this.

-snipp'd-


So..yeah. That elevator not having a window = No AA series (Maybe AJ but Phoenix wouldn't have been there to help)

Objection to the 3-1 and 3-4 stuff.

Spoiler: 3-1, 3-4, 3-5
The main reason Dahlia was taken from Kurain was because DL-6 ruined the Fey name. If that hadn't happened, her life probably would have turned out differently and there would have been next to no chance of ever even meeting Terry or Phoenix.


And didn't you say Gregory was the most important character before? I said it was Manfred and you argued it. :yuusaku:


I have an objection to your objection!
Spoiler: 3-5
Dahlia's father takes them not because the Fey name is ruined, but rather, because Morgan Fey does not become the master of Kurain. Since she's a member of the branch family, neither will Iris and Dahlia so he leaves because he personally wouldn't get power.

It's both.
Spoiler: 3-5
Bikini: After the clan leadership was taken from her by her sister, Mystic Morgan's life crumbled. It wasn't many years later that Kurain's reputation hit an all-time low. When Mystic Morgan's husband realized his wife would never become the Master... ...he left her and the village, taking their twin daughters with him.

I don't think I need to explain what the bold part refers to. Anyway, if Morgan's husband took off before DL-6, wouldn't Bikini mention that part first? The way she says it seems to heavily imply the DL-6 incident was the straw that broke the camel's back.
I think the part about him realizing Morgan would never become the master is more about the fact that Misty left town after the incident. Morgan was challenged for leadership and lost; she couldn't very well try to retake her position from someone who wasn't even there, and her husband wasn't going to wait 20 years for Misty to be declared dead by the village.

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My thoughts on Most Important Character were originally based on Gregory, but I soon realized it isn't his fault he got shot. If
Spoiler: 1-4
von Karma hadn't shot him, the series would not have happened


And I forgot that the reason Dahlia was planning to kill Phoenix was because of Mia, so I'll change it. But still, most of the series wouldn't have happened.
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All the O2 in the elevator would end up being used up as no new air would come in so the passengers would die of asphyxiation.
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But the amount of oxygen isn't affected by windows, is it??? :eh?:
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But the amount of oxygen isn't affected by windows, is it??? :eh?:


I was thinking the same thing. ^_^;;

...unless you're talking about the hole in the window, maybe?
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But the hole in the window was made just before the door opened....
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See what I mean about the tiniest detail making the biggest difference?? xD
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Purple Angel wrote:
But the hole in the window was made just before the door opened....


And why was the door opened, because Someone was shot, if the bullet didn't get through the door, there would be neither an air hole nor anyone opening the door. So yeah, no new air, asphyxiation, three dead people in the elevator.
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Uh, the doors to the elevator opened because the power just happened to come back on right after the shot. Having a hole in the window didn't have anything to do with it.

Spoiler: 1-4
:karma: The room was pitch black. The lights must have gone out. I went out in the hall and felt my way to the elevator. I pressed the button, and nothing happened. Then... there was a noise! I was in pain! A horrible, burning pain in my shoulder! Just then, the lights came back on. The elevator door opened before my eyes.

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Oh I missed that, eh, I'm gonna fall back on the butterfly of doom and say that the power wouldn't have come back nearly as soon if the windows weren't there.
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