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Spoiler: referring to other spoilers referred to/GS4
I have three problems with what has been previously stated First issue- all persons found guilty of murder in PW:AA/JFA/TAT ALL receive the death sentence with about 5 to 6 years wait time (check the timeline in the game info sction of the site) and Phoenix clearly states in case 2-4 "I fight to save my client's life... because those accused guilty of murder are sentenced to death"
Second issue- a four years jail time sentence for Adrian is not possibe because she is free and well two years afterwards in TAT
Third issue- solitary for morgan is not possible because the whole point of solitary is no visitors and in case 3-5 Pearl visits Morgan where she gives her instructions to kill Elise Tenryuusai/Misty Fey so no.
and responding to a question somwhere else about why Kirihito was freaking out after the sentence in case 4-4 but not 4-1 being found guilty of one murder means death sentence in 5-6 years being found guilty of TWO murders means expedited death sentence

oh and what does 2nd degree murder mean?
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Inagtius Envieu wrote:
Spoiler: referring to other spoilers referred to/GS4
I have three problems with what has been previously stated First issue- all persons found guilty of murder in PW:AA/JFA/TAT ALL receive the death sentence with about 5 to 6 years wait time (check the timeline in the game info sction of the site) and Phoenix clearly states in case 2-4 "I fight to save my client's life... because those accused guilty of murder are sentenced to death"
Second issue- a four years jail time sentence for Adrian is not possibe because she is free and well two years afterwards in TAT
Third issue- solitary for morgan is not possible because the whole point of solitary is no visitors and in case 3-5 Pearl visits Morgan where she gives her instructions to kill Elise Tenryuusai/Misty Fey so no.
and responding to a question somwhere else about why Kirihito was freaking out after the sentence in case 4-4 but not 4-1 being found guilty of one murder means death sentence in 5-6 years being found guilty of TWO murders means expedited death sentence

oh and what does 2nd degree murder mean?

Spoiler: 3-5
so prosecutor Godot would get the death sentance even though he saved Maya?

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Inagtius Envieu wrote:
Spoiler: referring to other spoilers referred to/GS4
I have three problems with what has been previously stated First issue- all persons found guilty of murder in PW:AA/JFA/TAT ALL receive the death sentence with about 5 to 6 years wait time (check the timeline in the game info sction of the site) and Phoenix clearly states in case 2-4 "I fight to save my client's life... because those accused guilty of murder are sentenced to death"
Second issue- a four years jail time sentence for Adrian is not possibe because she is free and well two years afterwards in TAT
Third issue- solitary for morgan is not possible because the whole point of solitary is no visitors and in case 3-5 Pearl visits Morgan where she gives her instructions to kill Elise Tenryuusai/Misty Fey so no.
and responding to a question somwhere else about why Kirihito was freaking out after the sentence in case 4-4 but not 4-1 being found guilty of one murder means death sentence in 5-6 years being found guilty of TWO murders means expedited death sentence

oh and what does 2nd degree murder mean?
Means that they killed somebody in the heat of the moment or that there was no planning involved beforehand.
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Aetheryn wrote:
Something just donned on me.

If the statute of limitation for murder is only 15 years in the game (as compared to no limit in real life,) wouldn't some characters get off easier due to possible lower limits expiring for lesser crimes? (Perjury, tampering with stuff, assault, blah blah blah?) :gant:


Mabey they could as nobody seems to get in any real trouble for perjury and/or obstruction of justice except Adrian. Then again the leagal system in Japan is supost to be pretty tough on crime...I guess the statute for murder in AA was just for dramtic purposes.
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As for the death penalty, wasn't the only person who received it
Spoiler: AA Case 5
Joe Darke?

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As for the death penalty, wasn't the only person who received it
Spoiler: AA Case 5
Joe Darke?


He and Chinami are the only one's the game flat out says were executed. Some people say JFA implies Von Karma was but I didnt get that impression myself. :nick:
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HyperSomnia wrote:
Phantom Phoenix wrote:
As for the death penalty, wasn't the only person who received it
Spoiler: AA Case 5
Joe Darke?


He and Chinami are the only one's the game flat out says were executed. Some people say JFA implies Von Karma was but I didnt get that impression myself. :nick:


Spoiler: von Karma
The murder of Gregory Edgeworth was, IMO, 2nd degree--Karma was shot himself on accident and he overall had no intention of killing Gregory. He might even get off with easier with temp. insanity, and I do not think that they ever tied Hammond's murder to him since MvK took the note from Phoenix.

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I guess it is slightly implied. Since people keep saying he's "gone" and "never coming back". They really aren't very clear though as to happened to him. Don't they even say something to the effect of "Franziska lost her father"? Althought that could only mean that he was put in jail.
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Phantom Phoenix wrote:
I guess it is slightly implied. Since people keep saying he's "gone" and "never coming back". They really aren't very clear though as to happened to him. Don't they even say something to the effect of "Franziska lost her father"? Althought that could only mean that he was put in jail.


I took it as he would never be let out of prison muchless able to pratice law again. Phoenix's reaction to hearing he would have to go up agenst Von Karma in court (before finding out it was his daughter) lead me to think he was still alive and locked away in prison but there was some fear that he could find a way out AND get back in court being that he is THE Manfred Von Karma. :karma:
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I personally thought that von Karma got a life sentence...

Where does it say that Chinami was executed? I didn't catch that...

(TEH SPOILERZ OF GS4 OH NOEZ):/ Who else was slightly weirded out when Ayame spontaneously combusted? (END TEH SPOILERZ)
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ultrasaint4121 wrote:
Spoiler: 3-5
so prosecutor Godot would get the death sentance even though he saved Maya?


Pretty likely. But he's already dead, so I don't think the game makes and confirmation as to whether he died because of the Death Penalty or not.
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I personally thought that von Karma got a life sentence...

Where does it say that Chinami was executed? I didn't catch that...

(TEH SPOILERZ OF GS4 OH NOEZ):/ Who else was slightly weirded out when Ayame spontaneously combusted? (END TEH SPOILERZ)


in the timeline,
just before 3-5

that is why she is spirit channeled

V.K?
I think he is dead...
the language overly implies that...
also, i think the reason he killed gregory is because of partial revenge, after his perfect flawless win record was ruined, not just because he was shot..
otherwise he would have shot yanni yogi instead, because Yanni is the only one that could of been carrying a gun,
in logic,
V.K should have assumed Yanni shot him, and not gregory (even though neither did)

partial revenge could be used as a side-motive,
anyway
I think he was executed.
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[quote="Mikker"]
Spoiler: AA1
Marshall - Attempted theft, assault: 4 months for theft, 6 months for assault. A year (bailable)


:objection:

Since when did 4 and 6 add up to 12?
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Von Karma being dead is heavily implied in JFA and even more so in GS3.

Spoiler: "GS3 end spoilers"
At the end of 3-5 Fran asks how can Maya be so cheerful after having just lost her mother, and Phoenix thinks to himself, "That's right, Franziska lost her father..." Karma is dead.


And Adrian, for all she'd done, was out of prison 6 months later.

In short I think most of you guys are way off. :godot:
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Fleeka wrote:
Mikker wrote:
Spoiler: AA1
Marshall - Attempted theft, assault: 4 months for theft, 6 months for assault. A year (bailable)


:objection:

Since when did 4 and 6 add up to 12?


oh right.

Forgot '2 months for illigal consumption of alcohol in jail'.
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Mikker wrote:
Fleeka wrote:
Mikker wrote:
Spoiler: AA1
Marshall - Attempted theft, assault: 4 months for theft, 6 months for assault. A year (bailable)


:objection:

Since when did 4 and 6 add up to 12?


oh right.

Forgot '2 months for illigal consumption of alcohol in jail'.

Not to mention having contraband steaks smuggled in from Lunchland.
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Aetheryn wrote:
Something just donned on me.

If the statute of limitation for murder is only 15 years in the game (as compared to no limit in real life,) wouldn't some characters get off easier due to possible lower limits expiring for lesser crimes? (Perjury, tampering with stuff, assault, blah blah blah?) :gant:


Well, in case 16 of GS4, Gant breaks out of solitary confinement. Just thought I'd point that out.

Also, in case 15, it shows Jake in rehab.
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Does this make Angel Starr a criminal for assisting him? :karma:
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seastone130 wrote:
Does this make Angel Starr a criminal for assisting him? :karma:


Angel Starr becomes a member of the police force in case 10.
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IZSBHR wrote:
Aetheryn wrote:
Something just donned on me.

If the statute of limitation for murder is only 15 years in the game (as compared to no limit in real life,) wouldn't some characters get off easier due to possible lower limits expiring for lesser crimes? (Perjury, tampering with stuff, assault, blah blah blah?) :gant:


Well, in case 16 of GS4, Gant breaks out of solitary confinement. Just thought I'd point that out.

Also, in case 15, it shows Jake in rehab.

NOOO! MORE SPIOLERS!!! Curse you! :gant:

Gotta pity Lana though. In case, uh... 13 or 14, she got caught vandalizing the Blue Badger because it reminded her of Gant's pottery collection.
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Are those AA4 spoilers true? :ack:
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No
If you read the intruction I posted it says no GS4 (however, the forum users are making up fake spoilers for my, and other peoples general amusement
read in this quote somewhere about the real GS4 allowances (line 12 I think)

ultrasaint4121 wrote:
Right,
hey again
out of curiosity
what do you think the sentances of the villains should be / are...
Do they use or deserve the death penalty?
If so who'd get it?
Basically, I just want to know if it is possible for villains to return (after a lengthy prison spell/ or break out)
Anyway,
Its time for you, the people, to dole out the punishments to the accused for their crimes...
THIS WILL CONTAIN SPOILERS....
NO GS4
please...

I've seen a relativly the same topic before...
however, I want you to be udgey and dish out the punishments..
:udgy:
Go for it!
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My favorite scene is Sal Manella drunk.

In case 17.

Almost up to case 18 of 20!
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wait
would
Spoiler: 2-3
:acro:

get the death penalty?
surely a lengthy time in prison for the manslaughter of russel berry (unintentional)
and the attempted murder of regina berry?

isn't that life in prison or something?
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Acro teaches us all one thing:

If you're really nice, dropping a heavy metal object on someone is bailable.
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Spoiler: Chinami
Chinami
Murder x 4: guilty
Mass Genocide of the dinosaurs: not guilty
Obstruction of justice: guilty
Conspiracies against humanity: guilty
Being generally Evil: Guilty


Sentence: DEATH! :b33r:
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ultrasaint4121 wrote:
wait
would
Spoiler: 2-3
:acro:

get the death penalty?
surely a lengthy time in prison for the manslaughter of russel berry (unintentional)
and the attempted murder of regina berry?

isn't that life in prison or something?


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I think some leniencey would have been taken given the circumstances. Acro was in a horrible accident, deeply depressed and even suicidal. He clearly wasn't in a sound mental state. With an easy-going judge he might have gotten a prison sentence instead of the death penalty, or even sent to minimum security hospital or something.

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