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- I don't believe for a minute that this would ever happen in real life, and not 1-2, due to the whole 'Maya channelling Mia to save Phoenix' bit right at the end).Out of those, I'd say that the first one was the most realistic...
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So what remains and is imaginable in RL:
1-2
1-4
2-4
3-1
3-3
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None of the other ones, really (spoiler alert):
1-2... lotsa unrealistic bribery, also a bit convoluted with all the fake witnesses.
1-3: Because a random child always just happens to be there to take decisive pictures.
1-4: Waaaay too convoluted.
1-5: How exactly did Gant get Goodman's body to Edgy's car? Also, odds of 2 "murders" happening at once?
2-1: Too many plotholes
2-2: Too much spirit channeling.
2-3: This one was just one big coincidence.
2-4: Spirit Channeling, thus unrealistic.
3-1, 3-4, 3-5: The entire thing happened 'cause of the Fey clan and spirit channeling. Thus, unrealistic.
3-2: Too convoluted.
3-3: Tigre should've known about the bottle correctly because he was the fake attorney previously.
4-1, 4-4: This was all over a game of cards. Going super-mental over that is a bit... unrealistic.
4-2: As is having 3 little crimes directly tie into one big one. And a doctor not taking someone's pulse.
4-3: Same goes for all the fake blindness, fake not-blindness, and murder by song.
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Bad Player wrote:
4-1, 4-4: This was all over a game of cards. Going super-mental over that is a bit... unrealistic.
It wasn't over the game of cards. You're the second person to say that.
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DramaticaXIV2 wrote:
Bad Player wrote:
4-1, 4-4: This was all over a game of cards. Going super-mental over that is a bit... unrealistic.
It wasn't over the game of cards. You're the second person to say that.
I know it wasn't over the card game itself; it still was about a game of cards, though. But let's discount that, and look at everything else:
4-1: Zak Gramarye is in hiding, he's famous, and he wants to come back quietly, and leave. That's obviously why he went and contacted a professional card dealer to ruin the life of the man who raised his daughter (AGAIN)
4-4: Death by stamp after 7 years. Super-realistic.
Flashback Case: You'd think in a famous troupe, the "death" of one member wouldn't been a bit more... publicized. And it would've been a bit difficult to hide a body. And every father would send away his daughter just to force two men to kill him.
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Bad Player wrote:
Only 1-1, really: Guy goes into unlocked apartment, woman comes home, he clocks her. (Yes, pun intended.) Nothing more, nothing less. And he was a bad liar.
Pretty much, yeah - everything else is eliminated in some way, often simply by the use of spirit channeling alone, without even going into actual plotholes, contrivances, and other assorted oddities.
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Bad Player wrote:
3-3: Tigre should've known about the bottle correctly because he was the fake attorney previously.
If he admitted in being a fake laywer, it would basically be confessing to murder. Because there is no reason to fake the attorney gig other then him being the killer.
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Waiting For Godot wrote:
Bad Player wrote:
3-3: Tigre should've known about the bottle correctly because he was the fake attorney previously.
If he admitted in being a fake laywer, it would basically be confessing to murder. Because there is no reason to fake the attorney gig other then him being the killer.
Tigre doesn't need to admit that he was the fake attorney; it was already established. And you don't need a reason to do anything in the AA world. For instance...
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Bad Player wrote:
Waiting For Godot wrote:
Bad Player wrote:
3-3: Tigre should've known about the bottle correctly because he was the fake attorney previously.
If he admitted in being a fake laywer, it would basically be confessing to murder. Because there is no reason to fake the attorney gig other then him being the killer.
Tigre doesn't need to admit that he was the fake attorney; it was already established. And you don't need a reason to do anything in the AA world. For instance...
Spoiler: 4-4
It was established in everyone's head, but the Judge said that he could necessarily testify that that was the case, therefore it was thrown out as part of the plot
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and maybe 1-5..coincidence is still a possibility
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Mechashadow wrote:
Ppl..may really disagree but 4-2..he could have forgot pulse checking due to panic..I felt it was a properly established case even if the execution was a bit lacking..
and maybe 1-5..coincidence is still a possibility
and maybe 1-5..coincidence is still a possibility
Meraktis wasn't a fool. Although Apollo deducts that Pal Meraktis thought she was dead, I always thought he was trying to kill her by throwing her body in the river.
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With the exception of 1-1, of course. Which was open-and-shut anyway.
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-Car doesn't work so you steal your neighbor's noodle stand, which you'll have to return.
-Spend precious time taking out and moving the bowls, knowing you'll have to put them all back when you return the cart.
-Make noise in the process of moving the bowls, increasing the chance of getting caught.
-Leave bowls in the lobby of your clinic where anyone can see them.
-Start dragging the body in the cart, which would theoretically take a while. Anyone could see you, and people are generally bound to notice such a thing. Also, since Eldoon does his job everyday, it would seem strange to see him pulling the car, especially at that hour.
-Head for the river...which happens to be in front of the house owned by the gangsters whose son is on the verge of death because of you. And don't forget the dead woman in the back of your cart is said son's soon-to-be wife.
He would have been better off just putting on a hoody, picking her up, and running to throw her in the river.
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TheSteelSamurai wrote:
Case 3-1's not so out there, is it?O_o
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I agree, as a standalone case it is realistic, but not in the wider scheme of things.
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So it has a very very very little to do with spirit mediums.
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And that's looking way too much into things. By that logic, none of the cases are realistic, because none of them would have happened if it weren't for a past incident that involved spirit mediums and such. If Mia had never become a laywer, Phoenix would probably have been convicted in Doug's death, thus never becoming a laywer either.
However, I believe it is possible Mia would have become a laywer regardless of her mother's disappearance, as she was interested in that and did not want to have to go against Maya for the title of the next head of the family. Of course, then she probably would not have worked for Grossberg, so the result might still be the same.
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TheSteelSamurai wrote:
Case 4-2 is unrealistic, but hardly because of the pulse thing. He panicked. It's a perfectly logical, believable explanation. It was everything else.
-Car doesn't work so you steal your neighbor's noodle stand, which you'll have to return.
-Spend precious time taking out and moving the bowls, knowing you'll have to put them all back when you return the cart.
-Make noise in the process of moving the bowls, increasing the chance of getting caught.
-Leave bowls in the lobby of your clinic where anyone can see them.
-Start dragging the body in the cart, which would theoretically take a while. Anyone could see you, and people are generally bound to notice such a thing. Also, since Eldoon does his job everyday, it would seem strange to see him pulling the car, especially at that hour.
-Head for the river...which happens to be in front of the house owned by the gangsters whose son is on the verge of death because of you. And don't forget the dead woman in the back of your cart is said son's soon-to-be wife.
He would have been better off just putting on a hoody, picking her up, and running to throw her in the river.
-Car doesn't work so you steal your neighbor's noodle stand, which you'll have to return.
-Spend precious time taking out and moving the bowls, knowing you'll have to put them all back when you return the cart.
-Make noise in the process of moving the bowls, increasing the chance of getting caught.
-Leave bowls in the lobby of your clinic where anyone can see them.
-Start dragging the body in the cart, which would theoretically take a while. Anyone could see you, and people are generally bound to notice such a thing. Also, since Eldoon does his job everyday, it would seem strange to see him pulling the car, especially at that hour.
-Head for the river...which happens to be in front of the house owned by the gangsters whose son is on the verge of death because of you. And don't forget the dead woman in the back of your cart is said son's soon-to-be wife.
He would have been better off just putting on a hoody, picking her up, and running to throw her in the river.
I don't think it's quite so out there as you're making it sound. It was night out - there's nothing that unusual about seeing a noodle cart out on the streets, and shielded the body from view, just like it was supposed to. If Meraktis hadn't gotten shot before he could go through with his plan, he would have had time to empty the cart, transport the body, dump it where no one would see, and return it without anyone really noticing. Even if the whole neighborhood saw a man pulling a noodle cart, that wouldn't indicate him in a murder, especially if the river washed Alita's body downstream.
Even though the bowls were visible in the lobby of the clinic, they were still inside the building. No one would be able to go inside and see them if the clinic was already closed. And even if Meraktis made noise emptying the cart, Eldoon himself didn't notice it was gone until early the next morning.
It was pretty dumb of Meraktis to go anywhere near the Kitaki house considering he knew Wocky was out to kill him, but the river was his best, quickest chance to hide the body. He almost didn't have a choice.
The fact that panty thievery got mixed up in a murder trial makes it kind of unrealistic, along with Trucy's fake kidnapping etc etc, but I don't think it's bad as some of the other ones.
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I may be remembering wrong, but I believe that Dahlia and Iris' dad left with them long before the DL-6 Incident, because Misty became the head of the family instead of Morgan.
You are remembering wrong. Morgan's relationship with her husband was strained by Misty ursurping the title of Master, but the DL-6 Incident and the shame that came with it was essentially the last straw.
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I don't think it's quite so out there as you're making it sound. It was night out - there's nothing that unusual about seeing a noodle cart out on the streets, and shielded the body from view, just like it was supposed to. If Meraktis hadn't gotten shot before he could go through with his plan, he would have had time to empty the cart, transport the body, dump it where no one would see, and return it without anyone really noticing. Even if the whole neighborhood saw a man pulling a noodle cart, that wouldn't indicate him in a murder, especially if the river washed Alita's body downstream.
Even though the bowls were visible in the lobby of the clinic, they were still inside the building. No one would be able to go inside and see them if the clinic was already closed. And even if Meraktis made noise emptying the cart, Eldoon himself didn't notice it was gone until early the next morning.
It was pretty dumb of Meraktis to go anywhere near the Kitaki house considering he knew Wocky was out to kill him, but the river was his best, quickest chance to hide the body. He almost didn't have a choice.
Even though the bowls were visible in the lobby of the clinic, they were still inside the building. No one would be able to go inside and see them if the clinic was already closed. And even if Meraktis made noise emptying the cart, Eldoon himself didn't notice it was gone until early the next morning.
It was pretty dumb of Meraktis to go anywhere near the Kitaki house considering he knew Wocky was out to kill him, but the river was his best, quickest chance to hide the body. He almost didn't have a choice.
Eldoon's regulars would know he shouldn't be out that late and would likely recognize that a different man was pulling the stand. In general, a man in a suit pulling a noodle stand at night, in the rain, is bound to attract unwanted attention. Plus, even if he had not been killed, there was no guarantee he would have had enough time to get the stand back, put all the bowls back in, and so on, without anyone noticing.
Moving the bowls took time and was noisy, and from what we see, the clinic has large glass windows and doors. Anyone could look through and see the bowls inside.
Also, he puts Alita into the stand with her slippers still on, stating the name of his clinic, and doesn't bother to put her sandals in.
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1-1 is probably the most realistic, even though the whole statue / clock business is completely improbable.
Oddly enough, it's arguably the worst case of the series.
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It would probably have been 2-1 if it weren't for how amazingly dumb the police were.
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Hardly any of them, of them would work in the real world, not even 1-1. The Police would easily have worked out who the true killer was with a bit of serious investigation.
I don't know about that. If I remember correctly, the killer only gets caught because his testimony is full of lots of contradictions, and he goes crazy once Phoenix points them out. If he hadn't testified, I don't think there was any evidence to suggest he might have done it.
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jwai05n wrote:
Hardly any of them, of them would work in the real world, not even 1-1. The Police would easily have worked out who the true killer was with a bit of serious investigation.
I don't know about that. If I remember correctly, the killer only gets caught because his testimony is full of lots of contradictions, and he goes crazy once Phoenix points them out. If he hadn't testified, I don't think there was any evidence to suggest he might have done it.
Yeah, but remember that the police would interview him in real life, and find the contradictions then. Also he probably would have left DNA evidence behind.
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For most of the cases, the suspects somewhat make sense, except case 3 in Apollo Justice.>_>
In 1-1, Larry was arrested because Sawhit claimed to have seen him leave the apartment just before finding the victim dead. And the woman was Larry's ex, who broke up with him, so there was a motive.
In 1-2, the police arrived to find two people by the body-Maya and Phoenix. Bloody note aside, they again had a witness who claimed to have seen Maya commit the crime.
In 1-3, Will Powers was believed to have been witnessed heading towards the crime scene, and no one else.
In 1-4, shots rang out on the lake, and the police arrived to find Edgeworth getting off a boat, with a gun bearing his fingerprints. And the victim was the lawyer who he believes let his father's killer walk free.
In 1-5, there was a witness to Lana stabbing the detective, as well as a photo of her where the body was hidden. And didn't she confess? I can't recall.@_@
In 2-1, written message aside, there was again a witness to Maggey allegedly committing the crime.
In 2-2, a bunch of witnesses entered the sealed room where only Maya and the doctor should be, where they saw who they believed to be Maya, covered in blood and holding a gun.
In 2-3, a witness saw who they believed to be Max standing by the victim's body.
In 2-4, well, the police weren't exactly wrong...>_> It was also known there was a bitter rivalry between Engarde and the victim, and we again have a "witness" seeing him going into the victim's room.
In 3-1, Phoenix was at the scene of the crime, and there was evidence that he had assaulted the victim at the very least. Also, the victim was holding his medicine.
In 3-2, the police were again sort of right. They really were trying the true theif, but for the one heist he had not committed. And he actually told them he was the theif, and for the crime of murder, it was proven he was at the crime scene by Phoenix, in the process of proving he was innocent of theivery.O_O
In 3-3, it was a little sloppy. If Maggey were the killer, why would she faint or even pretend to faint, then let herself be found holding the poison? And Armstrong at least was known to have been there at the time, and he was there while she was out alone, or so it would seem, while the witness called the cops.
In 3-4, Terry was a convicted killer, and the victim was the woman he'd made plans to meet with who had been responsible for getting him convicted.O_O Plus, there again was a witness.
In 3-5, Iris was caught by a witness in a rather compromising position, and her clothes had the victim's blood on them. I think the believed murder weapon also had her prints on it.
In 4-1, there were only three people in the area/room when the murder was committed, and the believed murder weapon had Phoenix's prints on it. There was also a witness, and while she was also in the room, she probably was viewed as too weak to kill a man in that manner, and Phoenix probably vouched that she was unconscious during the crime.
In 4-2, Wocky was at the crime scene, had a motive, had spoken of wanting to kill the doctor, owned the murder weapon, and didn't bother to deny doing it.
In 4-3, well...>_> Yeah, the police were idiots on this one. Now, not finding the true culprit was not their fault, since it did seem like he had no motive and a solid alibi, but they arrested one of the least likely suspects.
In 4-4, I viewed the reporter as more suspicious, but Vera vouched he didn't go near the coffee, she made and served it, and she was the only other person there.
The police arrested, in most of the cases, the most likely suspects, based on witnesses and the evidence.
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If that were true, we'd never have "Not Guilty" verdicts in real life.
A few "Not Guilty" verdicts are on the grounds of insanity or something like that, and occasionally the police do just make a mistake/ don't find reliable witnesses etc. But most verdicts in murder cases are "guilty" ones.
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For most of the cases, the suspects somewhat make sense, except case 3 in Apollo Justice.>_>
I never said that they were wrong to have their suspicions, in fact a few times the defendant has done something wrong, includin Machi in 4-3. I was just saying that it would be likely that after a full investigation the police would prosecute somone else in most case.
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It proves that reality is REALLY boring.
I also thought that 2-3 was somewhat realistic, but not very. (Or is it just my love for that case?)
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