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LOL these are great
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RandomJibberish wrote:
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It looks fine to me....


If that's what you meant, then nvm. Anyway, it looks fine to me. Keep up the good work, Jibbers! ^__^
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bump~ Sorry for disappearing (finals and such) and it's vacation time soon, so I might not have anything for another month. Hope this'll do in the meantime, and maybe i can fix it up before I go.

"His arms akimbo, facing full front, his head tilted back, a huge, smug grin on his face":

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Still a WIP, 'cause his cape is bugging me; it's definitely the most difficult part to sprite. Wanted to get some feedback on it before I try anything else. I think I'm gonna show his hands on his hips if I have the right angle going on.

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Detective guy's arms still look flat... Try adding perspective (as in, the elbow ends of the arms closer than hand ends)


his elbows were closer in the first draft, but the angle was weird.
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I understand completely, Sae (which I shall call you because it's hard to pronounce your name). I have finals soon myself, and graduation is pending. I also have a few events I have to attend, both being a senior and apart of the International Thespian Society.

Anyway, the sprite:

<3 Det. Simons more and more with each sprite, and I love how expressive it is. Though I can't help but feel the cape would hang off a little more from the elbows downward. Other than that's, it's perfect! :phoenix:

Suggestion from a friend of mine:

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Vertical lines beginning somewhere across from the elbow's approximate point...Maybe 2 on each side, stopping before the botton, the one farther out longer than the one on the inside.

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genodragon1 wrote:
I understand completely, Sae (which I shall call you because it's hard to pronounce your name). I have finals soon myself, and graduation is pending. I also have a few events I have to attend, both being a senior and apart of the International Thespian Society.

Anyway, the sprite:

<3 Det. Simons more and more with each sprite, and I love how expressive it is. Though I can't help but feel the cape would hang off a little more from the elbows downward. Other than that's, it's perfect! :phoenix:

Suggestion from a friend of mine:

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Vertical lines beginning somewhere across from the elbow's approximate point...Maybe 2 on each side, stopping before the botton, the one farther out longer than the one on the inside.


so I ( should ) be able to start back up on robert in about a week
(by then finals and such will be done with...I so want to get back on some major projects D:)
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Cold52 wrote:
genodragon1 wrote:
I understand completely, Sae (which I shall call you because it's hard to pronounce your name). I have finals soon myself, and graduation is pending. I also have a few events I have to attend, both being a senior and apart of the International Thespian Society.

Anyway, the sprite:

<3 Det. Simons more and more with each sprite, and I love how expressive it is. Though I can't help but feel the cape would hang off a little more from the elbows downward. Other than that's, it's perfect! :phoenix:

Suggestion from a friend of mine:

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Vertical lines beginning somewhere across from the elbow's approximate point...Maybe 2 on each side, stopping before the botton, the one farther out longer than the one on the inside.


so I ( should ) be able to start back up on robert in about a week
(by then finals and such will be done with...I so want to get back on some major projects D:)


*Nods* I can't wait until you and Sammie are back in business!
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I've got some new things waiting in the wings, but don't have time to work out the kinks. After school is out, there should be more to talk about.

By the way, where did everyone go? :larry:

For that matter, where's Ceres? He still owes me a base sprite...

Totally not a justified bump because someone's necroing every topic under the sun.
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Something I already PMed Geno with:
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Something I forgot:
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That is amazing :godot:

The only problem is that AAO won't let characters overlap the benches.

I'll have more time for Flash soon, as I'm finishing off a lot of other requests at the moment.
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RandomJibberish wrote:
That is amazing :godot:

The only problem is that AAO won't let characters overlap the benches.

I'll have more time for Flash soon, as I'm finishing off a lot of other requests at the moment.


well actually theres a simple solution for overlaping the bench...make both seprate like they would with the sweat sprite...and when you put it in it can overlap a certain part of the arm...
problem solved...if you want to do it that way :P

ow yea...also i think the nose needs fixing...maybe a tad to the left or something...i dunno...maybe thats just me.

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ok so then glace...I did this to show what i thought could be improved
(not that it wasnt already good) plus i think its easier than any explanation :P

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first off i moved the nose
(like I thought it was out of proper position in acordance to the normal face structure)

next i shaved abit off the head it seemed alittle big for some reason...also adding some hair going under ( I dunno why it just felt right to do so :P )

finally I used a teqnique i developed from my kisuke sprite i made awile back to bolden the lines on her shirt abit :P

sorry if that was long...but i hope that helps and you like geno :D
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RJ- <3

Thanks for letting me know, I've never tried any case makers so I have no idea. XD'''

Cold- Wow, that looks much better, thanks! n_n (Yeah, the nose was pretty misplaced; I'm used to drawing bigger noses XD'''''')
Might I ask what that technique was?
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well while making kisuke I had a major issue with his hat...vertical stripes
(remember when i first showed him >.>;;;)

anyway while i was fooling around with gimp i learned you could overlap colors by simply making one color less visible over another...not that i did that but it did give me the idea

I added a color between the background color
(in this case amy's shirt...which was easy since it was white so all i had to do was brighten it to a near white pink) and the dark line which although you might think it look off the dark is easy to see since its almost like the dark color absorbs the light and makes it more defined...sorry if its a bad explanation...im bad at explaining D:
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Actually, if you make the sprite with the bench on it, and put it on a custom background without the bench, it'll be fine.
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I came here to show the sprites off, but I see I'm happily too late. ^__^

Again, I don't know how I can thank, you Glace.

Also, thank you, Cold, I always appreciate it when spriters collaborate as well, since I think it sometimes brings the community together a little more. /Geno is so zetta cheesy.

This is why I <3 my spriters.~ All of you are awesome, and I say that very genuinely.

EDIT: Apparently someone from another site had a suggestion, and wanted me to post it here. Here we go:

XDGummyDX wrote:
Is this the part where we pick unfavorable details out of something that is completely fine? Yay.

Where the right arm bends in front of the body, it looks unnatural. Like it's 2-dimensionally leaning across a 3-dimensional body. That same shoulder sticks up a bit much to me, but I think for the pose she did it looks alright that way. One other problem I see is just how thick the body itself is. Like, immediately under the beginning of the left arm, it seems lick the back starts too far off to the viewer's right.

Other than that, it's beautiful, and I wouldn't be worried - That's me really looking for faults; they're barely worth the time it would take to play around with them enough to fix them.


Another comment someone asked me to relay (I is t3h mailman today >_< ):

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<Friend> (9:16:30 PM): The stripes need to blend in more.
<Friend> (9:16:41 PM): No offense to the guy who editted it
<Friend> (9:16:48 PM): But it looks like they were overlayed in MS paint
<Friend> (9:16:51 PM): overlaid.


Amenity was asked for by my friend, so I complied.
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Cold- Thanks!

Geno- I'm really glad you like it. <33

To Gummy's comment:
I agree with you about the arm. Foreshortening isn't my strong point. I'm not sure how to fix it, though. And, in retrospect, yeah, the back looks totally weird.

As for the stripes, I wasn't happy with them on mine either. I don't really have the patience to anti-alias them correctly right now. XD''
They would have looked a bit better in the first place had I not forgotten the lightest pink shade in the palette.

Here's a completely raw version of the resized drawing with the palette with the light color, in case it helps;
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I don't know if I'll get around to making the edits suggested, but everyone's free to help out and edit it. I just wanted to help make a base.
Tell Gummy and your friend thanks for me! <3 I love CC.
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Cold- Thanks!

Geno- I'm really glad you like it. <33

To Gummy's comment:
I agree with you about the arm. Foreshortening isn't my strong point. I'm not sure how to fix it, though. And, in retrospect, yeah, the back looks totally weird.

As for the stripes, I wasn't happy with them on mine either. I don't really have the patience to anti-alias them correctly right now. XD''
They would have looked a bit better in the first place had I not forgotten the lightest pink shade in the palette.

Here's a completely raw version of the resized drawing with the palette with the light color, in case it helps;
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I don't know if I'll get around to making the edits suggested, but everyone's free to help out and edit it. I just wanted to help make a base.
Tell Gummy and your friend thanks for me! <3 I love CC.


I'll be sure to pass the message along!

Cold, if you can do these edits, feel free to continue.

And de nada, Glace. You're an amazing spriter, and have helped me significantly not once, but twice now. ^_^ I just wish I could repay you! :keiko:
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The zoom sprite isn't the right style at all, I think it might be the huge borders.

And for the detective's latest pose, Godot has one like that to use for reference, mostly he needs more grin.
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RandomJibberish wrote:
Have I posted this yet? No? I should post things when I make them, this is from a week ago XD.

I improved the shock animation how you said:

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Sorry for double post, but this looks more shocked at Neal being stupid than OMG WHAT?!?. Maybe it could be exaggerated more? Either wider mouth or arms moving more like Maya's (they go up first, then around while stretched far as possible)
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Geno- You don't have to. I did it because I wanted to! n_n And I'm not so amazing. I just edit other people's ideas. XD'''

MrCheeze- The zoom is actually just the art I used to make the sprite cropped. I didn't draw it with a zoom sprite in mind, but realized when I went to resize it that it was about the right size. There's quite a few other issues with it; odd eyes, off-center nose and jagged pinstripes on the collar. I just figured, it's a better place to start then Mia. XD'''

If you need the full, big version of the art, I have that too, just for the record. (although it has no hands XD'')
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well geno...ive got good news...my finals are over and now i can do stuff :D
(im gonna try and get started on new stuff for robert tomorrow :D)
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dearp, disregard this post....I really need to read everything before I post

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Glace Leau wrote:
Geno- You don't have to. I did it because I wanted to! n_n And I'm not so amazing. I just edit other people's ideas. XD'''

MrCheeze- The zoom is actually just the art I used to make the sprite cropped. I didn't draw it with a zoom sprite in mind, but realized when I went to resize it that it was about the right size. There's quite a few other issues with it; odd eyes, off-center nose and jagged pinstripes on the collar. I just figured, it's a better place to start then Mia. XD'''

If you need the full, big version of the art, I have that too, just for the record. (although it has no hands XD'')


D'aw, don't be so modest. But I still thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule, though.

Cold52 wrote:
well geno...ive got good news...my finals are over and now i can do stuff :D
(im gonna try and get started on new stuff for robert tomorrow :D)


Awesome! And if you have some time on the side, there's some requested edits to Ami (though I think she's perfect as-is).
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Image >.> Slihgtly improved one over the one i pm'ed Geno >.>
i "Derped" when i started this one `_`
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Still having bit too squareish backhead.
But nice otherway.
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ike liberty wrote:
Image >.> Slihgtly improved one over the one i pm'ed Geno >.>
i "Derped" when i started this one `_`


Neal is a tad octagonal-headed, not to mention his expression is somewhat...constipated. Other than his head, the rest of it is coming along well. ^__^
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I got a new pose.
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It's not exactly right, as her hands aren't covering her mouth, but I thought this would make her look more shocked. Let me know if you want that or anything else changed. ^^
I thought the animation looked kind of odd, but that may just be me. Any other opinions?
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The animation is quite off. She keeps shifting backwards and forwards.
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Well she's supposed to move backwards in shock and the animation has to start over, so naturally she would have to move forward as well.
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foxxis wrote:
Well she's supposed to move backwards in shock and the animation has to start over, so naturally she would have to move forward as well.


I think what he means is that it looks like she's floating to the left, instead.

But other than that, it looks great. ^__^

EDIT: Also, as my friend has noted:

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Shawnifeathers (5:09:16 PM): A bit.... odd
Shawnifeathers (5:09:26 PM): Her expression mostly
genodragon1 (5:09:32 PM): How so?
Shawnifeathers (5:09:46 PM): Why is she looking off to the side?
Shawnifeathers (5:09:56 PM): If you're shocked
Shawnifeathers (5:10:12 PM): then wouldn't you look at the object of your shock?>



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Try having her move up a pixel or two, but come back down at the end of the animation. It might make her look more shocked, like she's jumping/flinching.
I love her face, though.
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Glace Leau wrote:
Try having her move up a pixel or two, but come back down at the end of the animation. It might make her look more shocked, like she's jumping/flinching.
I love her face, though.


Try it in this order...one up one right,repeat, one down one right

its like moving one leg back...as you lify your leg back you raise your body...and when you finally put your other leg down you lower it back a bit :P
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Ah, I see. I'll try those out. Thanks.
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Any better?
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Better indeed.
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foxxis wrote:
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Any better?


Yes, it is quite better. <3 However, can Victoria be looking forward (as if looking at the thing that surprised her), and have her pupils dilate slightly (but just enough to be noticeable)?
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I don't know if this is improved at all... I couldn't get the eyes quite right. :payne:
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foxxis wrote:
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I don't know if this is improved at all... I couldn't get the eyes quite right. :payne:


Hm...lemme see...could I ask that the arms or hands move, and the eyebrows move one or two pixels higher when her eyes widen? Idk if that'd work, but Victoria is rather subtle... sorry for being so picky. You're doing a great job, and I sorta feel bad about making so many directions... :payne:

Anybody else have any ideas to make her look more surprised, yet still...in character?
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Clench her hand a bit.
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Her arm movement could be that she goes from hands by her sides to where they are now during the animation.

CUT: Or a clench would be good.
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Ceres wrote:
Clench her hand a bit.

RandomJibberish wrote:
Her arm movement could be that she goes from hands by her sides to where they are now during the animation.

CUT: Or a clench would be good.


Both valid ideas! ^__^ Geno likes.
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