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I just had the idea pop up into my mind when I replayed case 1-5 when Damon Gant jokingly makes a reference to Edgeworth's salary being "higher than a detective's". We also hear constantly about how Gumshoe's salary is taking a hit due to his antics (or that he barely makes any money at all whatsoever). There might be some light spoilers =/.

It's a pretty vague area to discuss, and I'm sure our mileage would vary more than anything, but does anybody have any idea about how the main attorneys have their salaries at?

:phoenix: - It's made pretty clear that he doesn't take many cases, but he seems to manage keeping his office and name out. I think it's mentioned that he often gets defense requests that he turns down, as well? On the other hand, I'm a bit confused about how he goes about
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making a sound living for himself and Trucy during the Apollo Justice game... it's mentioned that Trucy's shows are a form of income, but do we ever figure out what kind of salary he makes through his "piano playing"? It's stated that there's no money involved, so I always thought he had some sort of low, fixed salary handed out by the borscht bowl or something. :/


:edgeworth: - I think it's pretty obvious that he makes a killing compared to a majority of the other law-practitioners we see in Ace Attorney (his office for one seems to reflect that, and he has a nice car), but we never seem to see anything beyond his frilly suit, office and car? Maybe we'll find out more during AA: Investigations?

I'm also curious regarding :godot: and :franny: 's incomes and lifestyles outside the court (whether they live on the fringe or lavishly, especially considering that :godot: barely seems to win?

Other than that, though, I've already formed in my mind that :maya: :pearl: :odoroki: have mooched off of Nick at one point or another, and that :larry: probably isn't too good in terms of economic stability either.

It's a pretty pointless topic, but a little interesting (at least I thought so :() !
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you make a good point!

How come phoenix always mentions only having enough to keep the office going, while edgeworth has a sports car and fancy office? Do prosictors get paid loads more or something?
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yeah it is interesting. i mean phoenix is usually in some spot of bother and in apollo he cant even really play the piano.however,when playing poker people sometimes stupidly place ridiculously high bets being confident that they'll win though phoenix has never lost. godot will drop all of his other cases just to fight with phoenix, but, since you can not get a not guuilty verdict to win,he never succeeds. prosecutors still payed quite well though,even if they arent that great. nd he probably wins against everyone else.just not phoenix.franzy is like loaded- prosecutor at 13 and really good at her job...
hey have you noticed how phoenix gets the blame and everyone 'want to do battle' with him- godot and franzy.
omg!!! 3rd game last case!!!! so sad...*cry*

anyways... we no from sl-9 that edgeworth has money(enough with the pricing!)
ema would rather be payed in snackoos than actual cash and gumshoe seems to be living on next to nothing.gloomy bunch!

prosecutors get payed loads.phoenix always is in hospital, upset or cant be bothered to work.and gets impersonated- that cant help much. and he doesnt ask his friends to pay for their legal help.
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Well, I think Nick ends up not getting much money for his cases, and Maya also gets a sizeable chunk.

Remember, Grossberg is well off despite the fact he's an attorney. I just think Nick isn't much of a businessman.
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yeah
grossbergs business is quite big though and he had mia and diego working for him wich has gotta help, i mean they were both really good.phoenixs business was just starting up and he is always ill due to something or other. and being the only attorney at wright and co means you cant take loads of cases at once. yeah and phoenix is really quite unorganised and doesnt know how todo business. maybe if he had read the law boks in his office... :hobohodo:
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I hope that Gumshoe returns in GS5 with a well paid job, maybe even chief of police. Nick gets money for piano playin, it's the poker that has no exchange of money. Godot probably didn't care about money, he was just doing it to meet up with phoenix, and Franny probably lives off of her father's vast wealth (I'm sure he must have been rich).
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yeah thatd be really good

turnabout gumshoe!!!
he should look really smart and have a good vocabulary and everything... then you could make hima murderer and when he loses his composure in court he could suddenly slip back into his old self...
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Gumshoe really should get a better pay...living off instant noodles cant be good for his brain. But whats worse, Edgey doesnt even seem to care! Bit snobby of Egdeworth not to give him a raise when hes living the good life and poor old Gummy cant pay the power bill! And no-one ever seems to pay Phoenix at the end of his cases they just talk about how the after party is Feenie's shout! Shows how cruel the world of Ace Attorney can be money-wise! :)
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I can imagine Godot (Not Diego... Wait, that makes no sense, thank god for inner monolouge) having plenty of money from his DA days.

He wasn't outfor winning either, there's a whole topic for that. I can see his lifestyle outside of prosecution involving a lot of coffee and plotting for erm... T&T's finale. Other than that, he probably looks at pictures of Mia and throws darts at a picture of Phoenix.
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poor gummy. You know, Instant noodles get tiring after a while, especially if you don't cook them right....
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He got sick of them and moved on to irregular cans though.
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canned soup is icky. it's all like....... gelatinous.

I like my grandma's homemade soup. that stuff is love <3
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I imagined the von Karmas to be filthy rich (no doubt through smugling Nazi riches... :yuusaku: ). Between their arrogant attitudes which imply that they are well off, they also have absurdly fancy suits and just about any random thing you could ask for (the taser? the high-tech tracking device? the means to take in an orphan and raise him to be filthy rich?). Obvously I think Edgey is rich too, possibly because of the Karmas. Maybe when Edgey was living with them they gave him lots of money. I can easily imagine Manfred being the type to bribe Edgey with suits, cars, etc. as a substitute for emotional support -- it would certainly explain some of Edgey's emotional problems in the first game.

As for Godiego (this thread should be spoiler marked for all the 3-5 stuff), I think that he probably had a fair amount of money before the *incident*, being the rising star at a filthy rich law firm and all. But with the long-term medical expenses, by T&T he probably was poor as could be. 3-5 shows such haphazard desparation and carelessness for his own well being that Godot probably had almost no money left -- he may well have been homeless, given how much of his attitude was an act. It just would not make sense for him to be wealthy in the least, as he wouldn't be given much money as the new unknown, and seemingly unproven guy at the DA's office. What little he had would have to go towards ongoing treatment. During the six years to pay the bills the doctors would have had to take everything of value he had to keep him alive.
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edgeygavin wrote:
you make a good point!

How come phoenix always mentions only having enough to keep the office going, while edgeworth has a sports car and fancy office? Do prosictors get paid loads more or something?

Indeed, as I shall now prove.
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I've heard that in real life, prosecutors don't really get paid well.

I wonder if Edgeworth got the money from his father, von Karma, or earning a ridiculously large salary.
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Mystic Mia wrote:
Reasons for Richness

Prosecutors: Government
:edgeworth: :karma: :franny: :godot: :kyouya: :payne: :king:

King of Prosecutors Trophy confirmed as a prosecutor in GS5?
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JasmineJustice wrote:
edgeygavin wrote:
you make a good point!

How come phoenix always mentions only having enough to keep the office going, while edgeworth has a sports car and fancy office? Do prosictors get paid loads more or something?

Indeed, as I shall now prove.
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moonfall wrote:
I've heard that in real life, prosecutors don't really get paid well.

I wonder if Edgeworth got the money from his father, von Karma, or earning a ridiculously large salary.

Were we talking about real life? No, we were discussing the game.
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JasmineJustice wrote:
moonfall wrote:
I've heard that in real life, prosecutors don't really get paid well.

I wonder if Edgeworth got the money from his father, von Karma, or earning a ridiculously large salary.

Were we talking about real life? No, we were discussing the game.


:yuusaku: I'm sure moonfall knows you were on about the game, she was just saying......


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I've heard that in real life, prosecutors don't really get paid well.


Haha really? On like... TV shows and stuff they all seem to be quite well off hahaha

Hmm I wanna meet a real prosecutor and ask them what they earn =P


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I wonder if Edgeworth got the money from his father, von Karma, or earning a ridiculously large salary.


Yeah his dad must have left him some money! I most of his money is what he's earned himself though.
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moonfall wrote:
I've heard that in real life, prosecutors don't really get paid well.

I wonder if Edgeworth got the money from his father, von Karma, or earning a ridiculously large salary.

Were we talking about real life? No, we were discussing the game.


:yuusaku: I'm sure moonfall knows you were on about the game, she was just saying.....

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Nurio wrote:
Mystic Mia wrote:
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Prosecutors: Government
:edgeworth: :karma: :franny: :godot: :kyouya: :payne: :king:

King of Prosecutors Trophy confirmed as a prosecutor in GS5?


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Mystic Mia wrote:
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Prosecutors: Government
:edgeworth: :karma: :franny: :godot: :kyouya: :payne: :king:

King of Prosecutors Trophy confirmed as a prosecutor in GS5?


No it isn't. I just put the :king: to signify prosecutors. Plus the Magatama isn't a Fey, it's an amulet that belongs to the Feys. Does that explain it?

Oh I know that. I am just joking around. :godot:
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:franny: I see her as the kind of girl that goes out on saturdays and buys designer boots.
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:franny: I see her as the kind of girl that goes out on saturdays and buys designer boots.

...Huh. I see her as the kind of person who works through the weekend...
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I can see :franny: doing both (buying expensive items and overworking)- I don't see Edgeworth doing quite the same myself, since even though he has nice things, I just can't picture him going out to expensive stores... but that's just my feeling- he probably does, lol.

I think it's been established to some degree that he's obsessed with the Steel Samurai, so maybe he buys that sort of thing when he thinks none of his friends are watching? :D

I can also imagine Godot having nothing better to do with his time than [prepare for his cases]/[throw darts at pictures of] Phoenix. I'd also think a pretty big chunk of his money must go into coffee :D
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Wait, Edgeworth's obsessed with the Steel Samurai...?
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Wait, Edgeworth's obsessed with the Steel Samurai...?

I think it's been mentioned that it's implied, but I don't think they go any further than that... I think in one of the "promotional" comic strips too, he turns out to be a super-expert in just about anything steel-samurai related while Maya and Cody are talking about it?... But of course we can't tell if that's supposed to be considered taken with salt, I guess.
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...Oh. I mean, there's a doll in his office, but I always thought that was because he's too refined and mannerly to just throw away a gift, even one from Oldbag.
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Edgeworth? Refined? MELANCHOLY?!?!?! (hahaha)

back on topicke:
PROSECUTORS get paid WAAAY too much*, as we all know. (1-5 confirms this.)
DEFENCE get paid significantly less, probably depending on experience/rates/etc. Phoenix, being the lovable pushover he is, usually is bullied into defending people for nothing at all.
DETECTIVES seem to get paid different salaries. Gumshoe's usually whining about having to subsist on instant noodles, but Ema never complains about low salary, despite always being in a bad mood (and not seeming to do as much as Gumshoe does).
REGULAR PEOPLE (e.g. Larry, Maya) don't seem to have regular jobs**. Some do, though (Mimi was a nurse, etc.)
REGULAR POLICE OFFICERS probably get about Gumshoe's salary or less (or more?!?!).

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I think a prosecutor's salary in this game depends on their record. Compare Winston's clothes with Edgeworth's/ Manfred's/Franziska. Payne's clothes look like a recolored version of Phoenix's. Godot/Diego's clothes... well, he is famous in a way he works with Grossberg.
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Edgeworth? Refined? MELANCHOLY?!?!?! (hahaha)

Where are you getting 'melancholy' from?!
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Edgeworth? Refined? MELANCHOLY?!?!?! (hahaha)

Where are you getting 'melancholy' from?!

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Edgeworth? Refined? MELANCHOLY?!?!?! (hahaha)

Where are you getting 'melancholy' from?!

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Yes, of course :edgeworth: is refined. Either you've seen something that we haven't or you need to look up the meaning of refined.
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I think a prosecutor's salary in this game depends on their record. Compare Winston's clothes with Edgeworth's/ Manfred's/Franziska. Payne's clothes look like a recolored version of Phoenix's. Godot/Diego's clothes... well, he is famous in a way he works with Grossberg.


But Winston will have been well paid considering he was unbeaten for 7 years. If his pay went down after he started getting his arse kicked he wouldn't have suddenly become poor.
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:phoenix: Not much salary. Take this, Larry didn't pay him, nor Maya, Powers possibly was broke and problably Edgeworth not too. Lana didn't requested for his defense, and etc. And in one of the official arts for GS, we see Wright entreing his house, filled with spider webs.
:edgeworth: Edgy is rich, probably, eh? We could see it by his office.
:karma: Very rich, you could assume. Taking a year-long vacation (or it was more? I cant remember) and maintaning a record for 40 yrs!
:godot: Averagey, maybe.
:payne: Rich. In 2-1, there's a possible reference of him being a Socialite. (when he talks to Wellington about the high class restaurant)
:kyouya: Rich, for being a prosecutor plus a rocke band star.
:garyuu: Rich too.
:grossburg: Rich. Just look at his "expensive book" etc.
:odoroki: Poor, like Wright. Wright maybe has paid him, Winfred, maybe, Tobaye, don't know and Vera...
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:eh?: "I found someone with less money in the wallet than me!" :takao: 58 cents in da wallet.

We all know about the state of Gumshoe's salary...
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:edgeworth: Detective...Can you not afford to pay your electric bill?
:sadshoe: How did you know, sir?


LOL I found this one so heartbreaking. Edgey can be a right bastard :redd:
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I fail to see how Gumshoe's salary cuts are Edgey's fault rather than the consequences for Gumshoe's failures... :yuusaku:
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JasmineJustice wrote:
I fail to see how Gumshoe's salary cuts are Edgey's fault rather than the consequences for Gumshoe's failures... :yuusaku:


Hmm I guess you're right. Though there's nothing wrong with Edgey being a bastard. ;)
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