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do you think the Gramarye's will be in another case in GS5 and do you think apollo's dad will be too? because some topics in another forum Were discussing that
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might be apollo's dad so if he is won't it be a great way for him to find out about him, And hopefully the game be longer then the last one, because there where only 4 cases.
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Er... Really, edit this. They are called Gramarye, not Graymare. Similar to Grammar. Both are magic.
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Minnakht wrote:
Er... Really, edit this. They are called Gramarye, not Graymare. Similar to Grammar. Both are magic.

Sorry, I will correct it
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Well, they better be, they have a lot to clear up! I don't think anyone can say for sure, but it's a pretty big possibility that they'll be in GS5.
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I consider there to be a 50%/50% chance, depending on wether or not they go into Apollo's backstory or not.
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Yes. Trucy Gramarye.
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Yes. Trucy Gramarye.

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Not to mention
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lamoir. I doubt Drew Misham is Polly's dad though if he was at least it would stop polly/vera
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The age difference between Lamirior and Drew is too far, I can't imagine anything happening between them now. Unless they were both drunk... And I thought Apollo's dad died.
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And I thought Apollo's dad died.


Yeah, showbiz accident. Quite a few people think Apollo's dad is still alive, what with Lamiroir's "She died in an accident! Wait, no, she's alive!" thing.

Because, you know, considering she actually remarried would mean that she thinks he's dead, and then he'd just be Lamiroir all over again.

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:odo-objection: "He told me enough! He told me he died in an accident!"

:pft: "No, Apollo. I am your father."

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I think they´ll appear for sure..i mean one way or another i think the gramarye troupe are the fey clan of the apollo arc..
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Magnifi and Zak are dead. Valant is in jail.

Trucy and Thalassa will probably be there, but we probably won't go too much into the Gramarye backstory. (Even if they go into Polly's dad, the Gramarye background was dependent on that, not the other way around, so we won't need to get into it.)
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Uh, why is Valant in jail? Did I miss something somewhere?
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Didn't he turn himself in for the whole tampering with the murder scene thing?
But judging by Adrian he'll be back by the next game.
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I doubt that Drew Misham is Apollo's dad. Also doubt that Lamiroir had something with him.
However, that were the painting things. He - Drew - painted Polly's previous cases... How did he knew? I don't remember... =P

If he's Polly's dad, than, he, Vera and Trucy are brothers and sisters. And Vera/Apollo would be called incest, like Apollo/Trucy.

I think that Apollo's dad is dead. That's most probable than the Misham's theory.
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Claire wrote:
I doubt that Drew Misham is Apollo's dad. Also doubt that Lamiroir had something with him.
However, that were the painting things. He - Drew - painted Polly's previous cases... How did he knew? I don't remember... =P

If he's Polly's dad, than, he, Vera and Trucy are brothers and sisters. And Vera/Apollo would be called incest, like Apollo/Trucy.

I think that Apollo's dad is dead. That's most probable than the Misham's theory.


yes, but on another topic they where doing some reaserch on it, so did i, this is what i came up with:
Brushel quotes: 'Drew's talent was without compare'
and 'and then the star falls' (talking about drew) isn't all that strange? :yuusaku:
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If Lamiror is in GS5 - then yes, the Gramarye's will be in it *shot for being captain obvious*.

If Drew turned out to be Apollo's father, then not only will I be furious that my Apollo/Vera pairing would turn incest. But I'd also be 'very' displeased with Capcom and send a letter to 'demand' why they'd ruin my beautiful dream :chinami:.

Being serious now. Yes - I think they'll make a return.... well - Valant obviously.

...And how did :uh: 'really' know all about Apollo's cases? That's left me really curious for a long time :sadshoe:.
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I don't really mind if the Gramaryes don't feature as much as in GS4... I just want Thalassa to tell Trucy and Apollo already she's their mother and she's okay.

As for Apollo's father, I don't know. I'd like to see him alive and find out who he is by some kind of awesome and if, possible, non-obvious plot twist. But I'm not holding my breath. We never get to know anything about Phoenix Wright's parents and almost everybody seems to be okay with that.
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If Drew turned out to be Apollo's father, then not only will I be furious that my Apollo/Vera pairing would turn incest. But I'd also be 'very' displeased with Capcom and send a letter to 'demand' why they'd ruin my beautiful dream :chinami:..

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And I suddenly remembered a movie I watched once, where an art forger had an affair with a woman who worked as an entertainer for kids. As a magician, among other things. Uh.

But I hope the Gramaryes (Trucy, Valant and Thalassa) will be in GS5, I like them very much. <3
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Being serious now. Yes - I think they'll make a return.... well - Valant obviously.

...And how did :uh: 'really' know all about Apollo's cases? That's left me really curious for a long time :sadshoe:.


... Drew must be stalking Apollo!!!
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Hahex wrote:
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Being serious now. Yes - I think they'll make a return.... well - Valant obviously.

...And how did :uh: 'really' know all about Apollo's cases? That's left me really curious for a long time :sadshoe:.


... Drew must be stalking Apollo!!!


But, like Vera, he didn't liked the "world outside", didn't he?

How can Drew be stalking Apollo then?

The paintings are curious, indeed.
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Claire wrote:
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Being serious now. Yes - I think they'll make a return.... well - Valant obviously.

...And how did :uh: 'really' know all about Apollo's cases? That's left me really curious for a long time :sadshoe:.


... Drew must be stalking Apollo!!!


But, like Vera, he didn't liked the "world outside", didn't he?

How can Drew be stalking Apollo then?

The paintings are curious, indeed.

MAYBE DREW IS APOLLO'S FATHER. oh wait...
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Claire wrote:
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Being serious now. Yes - I think they'll make a return.... well - Valant obviously.

...And how did :uh: 'really' know all about Apollo's cases? That's left me really curious for a long time :sadshoe:.


... Drew must be stalking Apollo!!!


But, like Vera, he didn't liked the "world outside", didn't he?

How can Drew be stalking Apollo then?

The paintings are curious, indeed.


^How did Vera exist then?
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Andrew1989 wrote:
^How did Vera exist then?


What do you mean by that? :eh?:

She said that in GS4, didn't she?
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Claire wrote:
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^How did Vera exist then?


What do you mean by that? :eh?:

She said that in GS4, didn't she?


He means that if Drew didn't like the outside world, how did he have Vera? You see, when a mammy and daddy love each other very much, they take each other to bed and have rampant sex until a baby falls out of mammy's vagina.
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^How did Vera exist then?


What do you mean by that? :eh?:

She said that in GS4, didn't she?


He means that if Drew didn't like the outside world, how did he have Vera? You see, when a mammy and daddy love each other very much, they take each other to bed and have rampant sex until a baby falls out of mammy's vagina.


I was just proposing something :redd:
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^How did Vera exist then?


What do you mean by that? :eh?:

She said that in GS4, didn't she?


He means that if Drew didn't like the outside world, how did he have Vera? You see, when a mammy and daddy love each other very much, they take each other to bed and have rampant sex until a baby falls out of mammy's vagina.


couldn't you just put a link to a wikipedia article
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It's possible Drew didn't like the outside world AFTER Vera was born.
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It's possible Drew didn't like the outside world AFTER Vera was born.


Yes.

Or after...

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Vera was almost kidnapped


I dunno :yuusaku:
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DefenceLawer wrote:
couldn't you just put a link to a wikipedia article

Or an instructional video? :hotti:

Anyhow, Vera will probably become a regular character, but if Drew has anything to do with Gramaryes I think I would give up on the series. :nick:
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It's obvious that the Gramaryes will be in GS5!!! Is everyone forgetting about Trucy? And possibly Thalassa? If they don't put Thalassa in the game, then they're making a mistake and leaving a gaping hole in the story.
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It's obvious that the Gramaryes will be in GS5!!! Is everyone forgetting about Trucy? And possibly Thalassa? If they don't put Thalassa in the game, then they're making a mistake and leaving a gaping hole in the story.


Yeah, I would say the Gramaryes are as important as the Feys are in the first three GS games.

After all

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Apollo IS a Gramarye, at least on his mother's side. Then we have the whole incident when Thalassa was shot by either Valant or Zak (or even a third person!!!) and how Magnifi (who could be that possible third person) covered up the accident (there is NO way he didn't notice his daughter was alive and was sent/travelled to Borginia after going BLIND and losing her memory...). The whole shotting thing is very weird indeed and I think it's far from solved.

It's highly unlikely they will leave this untouched after the whole issue could be considered the "main plot" of GS4.

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It's obvious that the Gramaryes will be in GS5!!! Is everyone forgetting about Trucy? And possibly Thalassa? If they don't put Thalassa in the game, then they're making a mistake and leaving a gaping hole in the story.


Yeah, I would say the Gramaryes are as important as the Feys are in the first three GS games.

After all

Spoiler: Big spoilers for GS4
Apollo IS a Gramarye, at least on his mother's side. Then we have the whole incident when Thalassa was shot by either Valant or Zak (or even a third person!!!) and how Magnifi (who could be that possible third person) covered up the accident (there is NO way he didn't notice his daughter was alive and was sent/travelled to Borginia after going BLIND and losing her memory...). The whole shotting thing is very weird indeed and I think it's far from solved.

It's highly unlikely they will leave this untouched after the whole issue could be considered the "main plot" of GS4.


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I don't really mind if the Gramaryes don't feature as much as in GS4... I just want Thalassa to tell Trucy and Apollo already she's their mother and she's okay.

That could be the kind of secret that hangs on until GS6.
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We don't even know if there will be a GS5. If there is we don't know if Apollo will be the main character. AND KNOW YOUR TALKING AVOUT GS6. can't you wait for news about GS5 first before you even mention the idea of GS6.
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As far as I know it's being currently developed (and there is no way they won't be making a GS5 after all the success!), but yeah, GS6 still looks very (very!) far away to even think about it.

I personally do not think Thalassa will keep the secret for long from their children unless she is killed. I bet she is dying to tell them oh gosh two dead jokes in a row.
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I hope Thalassa will tell her kids the truth, it kinda annoys me that she didn't in GS4. She could have told them after the credits or something. Or maybe it could have just shown her approaching the two of them... I dunno. But there's no doubt that the Gramaryes (or at least direct descendants of them) will be in GS5. Unless Capcom have become retarded money grabbers. :meekins:
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: :acro: Trucy apollo and their mother.

If she dies it will be up to phenoix to spill the beans. Just like last time. Although trucy already knew that.

I still dont like trucy.. Shes a bit cryptic and seems a bit too smart for a child.. I don't like that.

As it was her who allowed Zak to escape. AS it was her who allowed phoenix to get debarred.

As it was her who kept phoenix straight mentally. As it was her who is in possession of the "Magic panties"

Never trust magicians. :hoboleft:

Not to mention i got duped by one. TWICE no 3 TIMES :hobohodo2:

Then again that's just a joke. :hobolaugh:

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