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@ Vitor-Leal - That's not breaking the fourth wall though I believe? I think that's just Hotti letting you know what that character hasn't moved at all before/when he left arrived (speaking about Phoenix).

I could be wrong though :doodle:.


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Wasn't that patient standing in the same spot the last time you came to visit? Doesn't look like they've moved any closer to the reception desk, huh? Is this clinic really doing anything!? Is that patient really getting better!? Hmm...


I believe it is breaking the fourth wall, since the background is static. :lana:
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Ah! I see. Thank you very much for cleaning that little 'thing' up. Seems like breaking fourth wall to me :gant-clap:.
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LOL. Dr. Hotti just moved up my rankings for Phoenix Wright characters. He's now beating Lotta Hart and various other unimportant characters.
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I've got another interesting one. Actually - I'm not sure people thought of it.

...Not that people will find it important or anything :(.

Out of every playable Attorney/Prosecutor - Phoenix & Payne use the nervous sprite the most times. Manfred Von Karma is the only one that's not used the nervous sprite a lot (we only see it when you try to prove if he has a bullet in his shoulder and when you prove that the bullet in his shoulder IS related to the DL-6 incident).

The Judge's bro has never ran a trial with Phoenix Wright as the Defence Lawyer. Maybe small.... but still :larry:.
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I know I shouldn't. But even if I double post - this thread won't go up the top. So after playing through the third game - I've came up with other stuff that I think most people have forgotten :doodle:.

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There has been at least more than once a person has poisoned themselves while on the stand. However - it's only worked once (twice if you count a certain 'ending').

3-1 - While it had no poison in it, Phoenix Wright still tried to poison himself while on the stand by swallowing a bottle that 'contained' poison before. Wether you count this as a attempted suicide is up to you :).

3-4 - Terry Fawls drank the container of the poison while he was nearly pronounced Innocent. The poison bottle he used is the same some Phoenix Wright swallowed a year later. Unlike 'another' ending, this one actually worked.

4-4 - Vera Poisoned herself by biting her nails by the nail polish (which was laced with poison). While the alternitive ending shows that she dies, in the official ending, the poison doesn't kill her.

^These has all happened while on the stand. Going through it canonly poison has only claimed a victiam once.

Terry Fawls is the only client to have never been pronounced Innocent. The reason? Suicide.

Dahlia is the only person who's not been pronounced Guilty. Well - she has, once..... but if you follow timeline (3-4 comes before 3-1), then she has been the only one to never be made Guilty.

Iris, Kristoph Gavin, and Larry Butz are the only people in the game who's Psyche-Lock's that never break. However, Unlike Kristoph (who's Psyche-Locks are black). It's possible that:

* Larry's Psyche Lock's break after we find out 'what' amazing thing we see in court. (day one of the trial in 3-5)
* Iris's Psyche Lock's break when we find out 'she' was the one that dated Phoenix Wright 5 years ago (end of 3-5)

^So I guess what I should have said is that these are the only three who's Psyche Lock doesn't break very easily. But as said earlier - only Kristoph's doesn't break (as his are black). Iris's and Larry's might have braken later on in court (but we never get the chance to do them).

Speaking about Psyche Locks - Wendy Oldbag & Detective Gumshoe are the ones who's Psyche-Locks's break the quickest. You only need to show them 1 piece of evidence and you've broken them completly.
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Andrew1989 wrote:
Terry Fawls is the only client to have never been pronounced Innocent.


Spoiler:
Matt Engarde was pronounced guilty.

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Burninator wrote:
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Terry Fawls is the only client to have never been pronounced Innocent.


Spoiler:
Matt Engarde was pronounced guilty.

I think he means of the all the innocent clients.
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Burninator wrote:
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Terry Fawls is the only client to have never been pronounced Innocent.


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Matt Engarde was pronounced guilty.


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But Matt wasn't even your client to begin with. Your forgetting that Phoenix only took that case because De Killer held Maya Hostage (and would kill her if Matt didn't get declared Innocent). The minute Phoenix found out the truth, he wasn't going to fight for Matt's innocence.


Edit: I guess you could have said I made an error though. Wether he was guilty to begin with or not, Matt was still your client. But in my book - he doesn't count :gant-clap:.
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i just realized! Lawrence "Moe" Curls is a reference to the three stooges!
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i just realized! Lawrence "Moe" Curls is a reference to the three stooges!

That's a pretty widely known fact, and I think it belongs more in the "Obvious things that you didn't notice right away" thread.
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Andrew1989 wrote:
Ah! I see. Thank you very much for cleaning that little 'thing' up. Seems like breaking fourth wall to me :gant-clap:.


Nevertheless, the fact is still wrong, because Hotti isn't the only character who breaks the fourth wall!
During the tutorial cases, your aide will usually teach you how to cross-examine by saying things like "touch the Court Record button". Hmm, whatever could they be talking about? There's no button on the defense's desk. It can only be a fourth wall break.


aaand to contribute: Edgeworth is the only character to have small court sprites (you know, the kind when it shows a view of the whole courtroom) in all three positions: prosecutor, defense, and witness. Forgive me if this has been posted before.
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Also, Phoenix and Larry broke the fourth wall as well. I can't remember the exact quotes, but here is the gist of it

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(Presenting Maya's profile to Larry in 3-2)

Larry: Woah! Maya you've changed so much!

Maya: Really?

Phoenix: I don't see it

Larry: What man? You can't tell? It's so obvious, she's so different than how she looked 2 years ago!

Phoenix: (Maybe it's because I'm always around Maya. But she still looks exactly the same as she did when we first met)


It was a crack at the fact that Maya had kept the same sprites. I think it counts if the Hotti reference counts...
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Burninator wrote:
Andrew1989 wrote:
Terry Fawls is the only client to have never been pronounced Innocent.


Spoiler:
Matt Engarde was pronounced guilty.

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However, there is the alternative ending to JFA, in which Matt is pronounced Not Guilty and Adrian is found Guilty in his place.

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That is true. I completly forgot about that :larry:.
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La Diable wrote:
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Ah! I see. Thank you very much for cleaning that little 'thing' up. Seems like breaking fourth wall to me :gant-clap:.


Nevertheless, the fact is still wrong, because Hotti isn't the only character who breaks the fourth wall!
During the tutorial cases, your aide will usually teach you how to cross-examine by saying things like "touch the Court Record button". Hmm, whatever could they be talking about? There's no button on the defense's desk. It can only be a fourth wall break.

SaraVera wrote:
Also, Phoenix and Larry broke the fourth wall as well. I can't remember the exact quotes, but here is the gist of it

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(Presenting Maya's profile to Larry in 3-2)

Larry: Woah! Maya you've changed so much!

Maya: Really?

Phoenix: I don't see it

Larry: What man? You can't tell? It's so obvious, she's so different than how she looked 2 years ago!

Phoenix: (Maybe it's because I'm always around Maya. But she still looks exactly the same as she did when we first met)


It was a crack at the fact that Maya had kept the same sprites. I think it counts if the Hotti reference counts...


I think... okay, Hotti is not the only one. I lost. :acro:
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Lind_L_Tailor wrote:
Burninator wrote:
Andrew1989 wrote:
Terry Fawls is the only client to have never been pronounced Innocent.


Spoiler:
Matt Engarde was pronounced guilty.

Spoiler:
However, there is the alternative ending to JFA, in which Matt is pronounced Not Guilty and Adrian is found Guilty in his place.



Spoiler: 2-4
Though, I think that should be considered as an AU as Phoenix quits becoming a lawyer and it doesn't seem to be part of a timeline with T+T (or AJ, really)


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I think... okay, Hotti is not the only one. I lost. :acro:


Well, you could say that Phoenix and Hotti are the only characters to break the fourth wall outside of tutorial cases.
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Well, you could say that Phoenix and Hotti are the only characters to break the fourth wall outside of tutorial cases.

Hum, yeah. I'll edit my post.
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Dahlia is the only person who's not been pronounced Guilty. Well - she has, once..... but if you follow timeline (3-4 comes before 3-1), then she has been the only one to never be made Guilty.

> Well, not exactly... in fact, no character (except your client in certain occasions) is pronounced Guilty in front of you. The culprits get arrested, but they still have to stand trial before they're found Guilty, a trial you don't get to see. However, we do know that Von Karma and Dahlia have been sentenced to death, so actually they're the only ones that are proven to have been found Guilty.
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Justice for All is the only game to have a testimony from the head detective in the first case.

In other news, Every case in Justice for All has a testimony from the head detective.
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In all four games, there's one case where you meet the victim before they...Well, become a victim.

AA-Mia Fey
JFA-Turner Grey
TAT-Elise Deauxnim
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In all four games, there's one case where you meet the victim before they...Well, become a victim.

AA-Mia Fey
JFA-Turner Grey
TAT-Elise Deauxnim
AJ-LeTouse



Also know as:

The pattern with PW is reversed in AJ. That is:

PW: One victim per game has a sprite.

AJ: All victims EXCEPT one have a sprite.
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I've got two interesting ones. Not sure if the first one has been mentioned before though ;/.

* 3-4 is the first time that a cross-examination goes longer than it normally does. For example - when you cross examine Dahlia, even when you present 'one' possible piece of evidence, the cross-examination still goes on (making it mean that you have to show two pieces of evidence). This trend continued on in the next game (Apollo Justice) and never stopped there (I think it ended in 4-4 so correct me if I am wrong).

* Speaking about that - Lamiror is the only witness you have to cross-examine (the same part) at least three times.

* For close-up animations - Klavier is the only one to be seen doing this the least times. Once in 4-3. Once in 4-4. And once again in 4-4 (the flashback trial).
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Three persons attempted suicide at the series. Only one person failed.

Four. Celeste, Adrian, Terry, Magnifi.

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Why didn't Franziska just Prosecute the whole case? She did at the start of it (I know she was just filling in). Was she too scared of Godot's 'arrogance' or was it that Godot bribed her to 'lay' off his prey? :sadshoe:

She had to work on the locks on the Sacred Cavern gate.
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If you look at Trucy's Cape at the bottom you can see the 4 card suits on it.
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If you look at Trucy's Cape at the bottom you can see the 4 card suits on it.


and each of the gramyres have their own card suit, except for trucy, who shares one with her (supposedly deceased) mother.

she also shares a color, because magnifi is the only one that does not have a primary color theme color.
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Not counting those who share a last name, their are 9 cases of shared initials:

Doubles!
Miles Edgeworth and Matt Engarde

Winston Payne and Will Powers

Larry Butz and Lisa Basil

Turney Grey and Thalassa Gramarye

Dick Gumshoe and Damon Gant

Richard Wellington and Redd White

Mike Meekins and Mimi Miney

Triples!

Gregory Edgeworth, Guy Eldoon, and Glen Elg

Max Galactica, Marvin Grossburg and Magnifi Gramarye
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The final witness in the third case of each game is a very tough nut.

Dee: Always calm.
Acro: Same.
Furio: Press him wrong and you get a penalty.
Daryan: Counters your theroies.
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If you look at Trucy's Cape at the bottom you can see the 4 card suits on it.


and each of the gramyres have their own card suit, except for trucy, who shares one with her (supposedly deceased) mother.

she also shares a color, because magnifi is the only one that does not have a primary color theme color.

Maybe the Gramarye's colours are references to the YCMB color scheme (yellow, cyan, magenta and black)? Makes sense. They cape colours are slightly these, black is the neutral color at this scheme and the "strongest" color, as Magnifi was...
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SaraVera wrote:
AJ: All victims EXCEPT one have a sprite.

WROOOONG!

Neither Magnifi nor Pal has a sprite.
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Lind_L_Tailor wrote:
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AJ: All victims EXCEPT one have a sprite.

WROOOONG!

Neither Magnifi nor Pal has a sprite.


pshhhh, flashback cases don't count... :grey:
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SaraVera wrote:
Lind_L_Tailor wrote:
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AJ: All victims EXCEPT one have a sprite.

WROOOONG!

Neither Magnifi nor Pal has a sprite.


pshhhh, flashback cases don't count... :grey:

Yes they do. :gregory:
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Well...These I find pretty interesting...
1. None of the AA1 characters (fifth case not included) have more than 15 colors used on their normal sprite.
2. Only Gumshoe and Penny have a total of 14 colors used (others have 15, including Polly, but not missile and some profile pics.)
3. Cindys profile pic has 13 colors, Gregorys 14, Mistys 12, Hammonds 14, Hammer 14 and Missile has 11 colors.
4. Joe Darke propably has most colors used in his profile pic. (black face) There is a total of over 100 colors in it.
5. Goodmans profile pic has 15 colors in it
6. If the fifth case is also count, then Angel has the most colors in the game. (Ema: 27, Lana: 29, Jake: 27, Angel: 30, Gant: 28, Meekins: 27)
7. BUT, Angel has one unnecessary pixel in her lips. This meaning, that it's color is SO CLOSE to one the one next to it, that it could wery well have been done with the other color...It's a funny thing to keep in mind, though not useful or something like that.

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Let's see... IIRC, Larry has the most costume changes. Jacket, Santa, Security Guard, Artist.


I disaggree....

Mia has the most costume changes with
Normal Mia
Young Mia
Maya-mia
Pearl-mia
Waitress Mia

*cornered variation plays*

I think... (correct me if im wrong)
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Essa_L_M.E wrote:
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Let's see... IIRC, Larry has the most costume changes. Jacket, Santa, Security Guard, Artist.


I disaggree....

Mia has the most costume changes with
Normal Mia
Young Mia
Maya-mia
Pearl-mia
Waitress Mia

*cornered variation plays*

I think... (correct me if im wrong)

Isn't Young and Normal Mia's clothes the same?
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76_trombone wrote:
Essa_L_M.E wrote:
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Let's see... IIRC, Larry has the most costume changes. Jacket, Santa, Security Guard, Artist.


I disaggree....

Mia has the most costume changes with
Normal Mia
Young Mia
Maya-mia
Pearl-mia
Waitress Mia

*cornered variation plays*

I think... (correct me if im wrong)

Isn't Young and Normal Mia's clothes the same?


Yes and no. There are differences between the two. Different belt, jacket is more open on normal Mia.
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Haileyvoir wrote:
In all four games, there's one case where you meet the victim before they...Well, become a victim.

AA-Mia Fey
JFA-Turner Grey
TAT-Elise Deauxnim
AJ-LeTouse



Spoiler:
In AJ Case 4, you also meet Shadi Smith/Zak Gramarye/Shadi Enigmar during the Mason system flashback with Phoenix.
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JFA is the only AA game (released in America, I don't know about AAI yet) that does not have an obligatory "man-eater"

Spoiler: Spoilers for AA, T&T and AJ
AA - April May
T&T - Dahlia Hawthorne
AJ - Alita Tiala


(I hope that one hasn't been posted already)
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JFA is the only AA game (released in America, I don't know about AAI yet) that does not have an obligatory "man-eater"

Sorry for stealing your thunder Lind, but

WRONG

I think you forgot our favorite little animal tamer. The one with the sparkles. Although Regina didn't do it on purpose like the others.
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Haileyvoir wrote:
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JFA is the only AA game (released in America, I don't know about AAI yet) that does not have an obligatory "man-eater"

Sorry for stealing your thunder Lind, but

WRONG

I think you forgot our favorite little animal tamer. The one with the sparkles. Although Regina didn't do it on purpose like the others.

Hah, don't worry about it. It's fun to laugh at someone else's joke instead of your own, even if you know you would have made it even if they hadn't.

Damn, i've become predictable.
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Haileyvoir wrote:
SaraVera wrote:
JFA is the only AA game (released in America, I don't know about AAI yet) that does not have an obligatory "man-eater"

Sorry for stealing your thunder Lind, but

WRONG

I think you forgot our favorite little animal tamer. The one with the sparkles. Although Regina didn't do it on purpose like the others.


Hmm, I didn't think of that, but I still don't think of Regina as a man-eater. She didn't try to use them for her own gain, she just got a lot of men to fall for her because of her actual innocence - not a facade like those others.
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