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http://vgchartz.com/swlaunch.php?reg1=J ... DS&weeks=5

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Here's a Japanese Comparison of all the 'firsts' on the DS (The site is missing sales for GS1-GBA). I'm glad to see Kenji doing well. But I wasn't expecting it's sales to cut off so sharply.
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Oh no! I can't believe Apollo Justice sold so many more copies than Ace Attorney! Now everyone will be getting the wrong impression about AA. :aliahands:
BTW, I think the horizontal axis means the time (weeks?) after the release, so people haven't all just suddenly stopped buying it.
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Oh no! I can't believe Apollo Justice sold so many more copies than Ace Attorney! Now everyone will be getting the wrong impression about AA. :aliahands:


But, it looks like this is just comparing the DS games. Remember that AA originally came out on the GBA, so they don't have those sales figures posted there.
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It's good that all three skyrocketed in the first week. And, those are only sales figures for Japan, not America and Europe.
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Don't forget, Japan had the GBA version and the PC version by the time they got the DS version, and later on a crummy Cellphone version. GS1 has been practically milked dry there.
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I'm a little surprised to see that Edgeworth hasn't outsold Apollo! Especially after the hype at TGS. Do you think it's because it's a spin off and not a new entry to the series? Lacks the shock of "what happened to Phoenix!?" Or could it be some fans dropped off after AJ out of disappointment? Lots of speculation to be had.
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It could be that Gk just didn’t have the “newness” factor, for the lack of a better term, which GS4 did. Japan had the original GBA releases, so they hadn’t seen anything fresh with the GS series for a while, GS4 had a longer gap between releases, was developed for a new platform (NDS exclusive) and had the whole new cast/hobohodo hook. That and spin-off series traditionally do worse than main product lines.

I really hope Capcom doesn’t pull the same crap that Nintendo of America did with Elite Beat Agents and say: “Well, sales were strong, but not strong enough! So there really won’t be a sequel *sinister laughing* …”

Also, I wonder how much piracy has an effect on sales. ROMs are ridiculously easy to find and nearly impossible to stop.
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The Red Dahlia wrote:
Oh no! I can't believe Apollo Justice sold so many more copies than Ace Attorney! Now everyone will be getting the wrong impression about AA. :aliahands:


You know what? Fuck it, if you don't like it, there's no need to make it clear all the time. I know I'm not the only one who thinks it's one of the best in the series.

Well, yeah. It sorta surprises me. GK looks so much more appealing than the rest of the series.
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You know what? Fuck it, if you don't like it, there's no need to make it clear all the time. I know I'm not the only one who thinks it's one of the best in the series.

Well, yeah. It sorta surprises me. GK looks so much more appealing than the rest of the series.


No need to be snippy. At first glance these sales figures are very surprising, no matter what you think about AJ. Personally I was afraid Edgeworth would blow AJ out of the water, thus paving the way for more spin offs and fanservice, but obviously that's not the case (though sales in the US are sure to be different).

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Also, I wonder how much piracy has an effect on sales. ROMs are ridiculously easy to find and nearly impossible to stop.


True, but they're not any easier to find now than they were two years ago when AJ came out. In fact I think the AJ rom broke even further ahead of the release date than the Kenji one did. But then, maybe the state of the world economy is encouraging more people to pirate than would normally.
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I am suprised on how good the sales were on Apollo Justices sales were and how ,uch more copies it sold than AA.
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Croik wrote:
I'm a little surprised to see that Edgeworth hasn't outsold Apollo! Especially after the hype at TGS. Do you think it's because it's a spin off and not a new entry to the series? Lacks the shock of "what happened to Phoenix!?" Or could it be some fans dropped off after AJ out of disappointment? Lots of speculation to be had.

I concur; it's quite odd that Apollo's sales were so substantial and that AAI hasn't surpassed that yet. AAI, I thought, would be an even larger success due to the *cough* somewhat unhealthy*cough* Edgeworth Fanbase.
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I'm a little surprised to see that Edgeworth hasn't outsold Apollo! Especially after the hype at TGS. Do you think it's because it's a spin off and not a new entry to the series? Lacks the shock of "what happened to Phoenix!?" Or could it be some fans dropped off after AJ out of disappointment? Lots of speculation to be had.

I concur; it's quite odd that Apollo's sales were so substantial and that AAI hasn't surpassed that yet. AAI, I thought, would be an even larger success due to the *cough* somewhat unhealthy*cough* Edgeworth Fanbase.


Maybe the fanbase in Japan isn't the same as it is on this forum?
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Personally, I think the sales issue has to deal with new beginnings. With GS4 you can pick it up and not have played any of the previous games. With AAI, while it is the first in a new series, it's also a direct spin off of Phoenix's Arc, which has had sequels galore; thus it's not the 'most' appetizing entry point for new gamers. For veterans, it has the Edgy safety net. I anticipate Apollo was more popular with the new fans, and Edgy with the old.
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See, this is just another reason to anticipate the release of AAI. I'm actually curious if the English figures will surpass the JP sales.
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I'm very surprised that so many people in Japan missed out case 1-5.
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Amy wrote:
It's good that all three skyrocketed in the first week. And, those are only sales figures for Japan, not America and Europe.


Possibly won't be higher than sales in Japan due to it still being relatively underground in both countries.
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I think one of the factors in GK's sales is the simultaneous release of Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days. KH isn't as huge in Japan as it is in America as far as I know but it's still a big hit and it's no surprise it ate up a good chunk of sales.

I don't know if there were any other big hits releasing around the time of GS4, so that could have something to do with it.
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I think one of the factors in GK's sales is the simultaneous release of Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days. KH isn't as huge in Japan as it is in America as far as I know but it's still a big hit and it's no surprise it ate up a good chunk of sales.


I dunno, I saw more than enough gigantic posters advertising the KH mobile game at a lot of the train stations when I was in Japan. >_< I'd say that it's probably pretty big over there.
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I think one of the factors in GK's sales is the simultaneous release of Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days. KH isn't as huge in Japan as it is in America as far as I know but it's still a big hit and it's no surprise it ate up a good chunk of sales.


Wasn't KH the only game to outsell Kenji on opening week?
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I concur; it's quite odd that Apollo's sales were so substantial and that AAI hasn't surpassed that yet. AAI, I thought, would be an even larger success due to the *cough* somewhat unhealthy*cough* Edgeworth Fanbase.


Maybe the fanbase in Japan isn't the same as it is on this forum?[/quote]

Edgeworth did win the only official Japanese character poll I've seen done for AA, though that was before AJ was released. Not sure how that matches up to the US fandom, but in our Edgeworth poll (done way back) 95% said they at least liked him. I think close to a third said he was their favorite character in the series.
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It hasn't occured to anyone that not every single sale of AJ was right after it was released?
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It hasn't occured to anyone that not every single sale of AJ was right after it was released?

That’s true, sales do continue throughout a games lifetime, but when comparing sales and the relative strength of a product, looking at the first few weeks are good enough.

Most games follow the same pattern: after the initial surge, sales will tend to taper off and not increase dramatically in volume. There are formulas you can follow to predict these sorts of things, which marketing departments use to determine how much product to manufacture. Of course there are factors that can influence sales, such as holiday seasons, which is why a lot of big name companies will push their developers to launch a game accordingly. Not every game follows the pattern however. The North American PW:AA release was a bit of an oddity. I remember reading an article where Capcom was a bit surprised with the continued demand for the game well past initial sales levels.
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Wait, I misunderstood the graph and thought it showed total sales, not sales per time.
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Well, I've played through the first case, and I've begun investigation on the second, and I can honestly say that the game is great thus far. Anyone in Japan who's on the fence about it needs to make the purchase--it's totally worth it! :edgy:
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Yeah, wasn't AA1 (PW: AA) quite the sleeper hit in Europe/N.America? I thought that originally it only had a very small run in Europe so they had to ship more (or something).
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I'm sad to see that AA's sales look almost pitiful compared to AJ, but perhaps this will convince Capcom that they should make another AJ.
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What type of game is Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days? Like an RPG or something?
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One: the Kingdom Hearts series are action-RPGs.

Two: there's something screwy with the charts -- I was curious, and was playing around with it. Picking ALL for the AJ sales doesn't increase the line, but if you show the US results you get a non-zero line. I'm wondering if those AJ sales are really total -- and if so, an eyeball on the graphs suggests that AJ and AAI would be very close.

EDIT: found the raw numbers. No, the plot's accurate, the ALL regions option just doesn't total properly.
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