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Amy wrote:
According to this website, cute is a combination of cunning and precious. And Phoenix said 'She's so openly hostile it's almost kinda cute.'
Hostile means angry, savage. Almost/Kinda means not exactly, sort of.
Hostile means angry, savage. Almost/Kinda means not exactly, sort of.
So how does
fit in based on that?
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Now changing the subject of the word cute...
The other day I watched on TV about the way women fall in love (in a psychological sense, it's not my opinion so don't hate me if it's not true). That guy was saying something that women usually look for a "father figure". It's not that women fall in love with their parents but it's that when the "father figure is missing they look for an alternal way to recreate that feeling.
I was thinking... Could Franny have that case? If it is like that, that would be a psychological answer for all Franny pairings. Including MilesXFranny.
What do you say? (I repeat, that thing it's not my opinion it was said by a psychologist of my country, Chile)
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Nat wrote:
Somehow I don't think so. She did have Manfred until she was 17. I mean she doesn't think of Larry in that way and Edgeworth didn't really do anything like that. Neither Phoenix but that's because she's still obsessed with her 'perfect record' but she did stand up for him in front of Godot, a fellow prosecutor and she didn't give him the DeKiller card yet. And she followed him during the investagation and she never whipped him once in the plaza in case 2-3 etc. Franzy definetly has a crush on Phoenix even though that logic about the fatherly figure doesn't seem too possible but that's my opinion.
Thank you. I just wanted to know if that (in a psychological way) was a possible option for us to think about why would Franny fall in love.
But I know what you mean. Why would she stand for Nick against Godot if he is "the enemy"? It's love... yeah.
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Nat wrote:
If that doesn't show that they like each other than Phoenix/Maya is no more than baseless imagination.
And you say I insult your ships.
That's bashing.
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Amy wrote:
Nat wrote:
If that doesn't show that they like each other than Phoenix/Maya is no more than baseless imagination.
And you say I insult your ships.
That's bashing.
But this is a PHOENIX/FRANZISKA fanclub. And I was saying that to prove my point.
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Amy wrote:
So what? You don't see us bashing the Phoenix/Iris ship or your ship in our fanclub, now do you?
How can we know? It's not like I or anyone is going to look in the MAYA/PHOENIX fanclub to prove Nat's point. If you took that personal it's none of our business.
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But this is a PHOENIX/FRANZISKA fanclub. And I was saying that to prove my point.
As far as I think, that was just a way to show her own point, just like she said.
And even if I'm wrong with everything I just said, you should just calm down.
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It's my second favourite after Phoenix/Maya.There's a lot of evidence for PhoenixMaya btw. Just check out Icer's list. It has something solid for almost every case.
IMO, there isn't much evidence for PhoenixFran, but ...so what? xD IT IS WIN.
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moonfall wrote:
*imagines Franziska alone in the hospital room with the tulips*
He loves me, he loves me not...
He loves me, he loves me not...
YAY! I love that idea... but I most imagine her jumping on her bed thinking (Because she's still shy to admit it out loud) "He loves me! He really loves me!"
But wathever XD Crazy ideas.
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Nat wrote:
And what's up with this 'Phoenix/Maya day'? Do any other people even care that people who ship something different want nothing to do with it?
No one is being forced to participate and even acknowledge their fun day, so why do YOU care?
If you want to encourage more Phoenix/Fran media, that is totally fine.
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That way we'll have our day when no one will be able to complain, just like us with mayaXNick day.
It's a great idea to make a FrannyXNick day.
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I've been thinking... when is the moment when Franziska, Phoenix or both would realize they are in love? I've tried to imagine it but it's kinda hard to set a moment where Franziska was supposed to fall in love. Maybe when Phoenix brought her the tulips? Maybe when she decided to give him the evidence that helped him declare Engarde guilty? When she left back to Germany? There are too many chances but all of them as unreliable as a dog flying.
So... What do you think? When do you think they fell in love? GS2, GS3 or after that? If they did, what was the factor that made them notice each other?
(If there's something you don't understand, I'm sorry, even though I know how to speak and write english I'm still not THAT good at it)
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I see Phoenix/Franziska happening after GS3, maybe even after GS4. She needs a little time to grow up and realize where Phoenix and Miles are coming from about the meaning of being a lawyer. I'd actually like to see a case or fanfiction where he has to defend her from fake murder charges.
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But you may be missing the point of Phoenix/Maya day. It's for people who like the pairing to share the love with fic and art. All on the same day. United by the pairing.. 8D We have these advert sigs NOT to coerce shippers of other pairings to come Join Us. It's speaking to other shippers of the pairing.
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I think that if it was implied canon (PxF is not my headcanon though I do love the pairing)...on Franzy's side it probably evolved from 2-4 til 3-5. Love doesn't happen at once, I guess. And after that...I don't think she'd forgive him for the disbarring, sadly. T_T We know the disbarring happened approximately two months after 3-5, so they wouldn't be in an established relationship by then...maybe if they made up during the Seven Year Gap, she helps him with the Jurist System. Edgeworth has that kind of power so maybe Franzy does too.
If she stayed, of course. There doesn't seem to be any chance for an established relationship at any point in the timeline...Unlike Edgey and Maya, Franzy's existence isn't referenced in Apollo Justice. I can see her leaving after 3-5. Maybe she returns around the end of the Seven Year Gap without a clue about what happened? That seems to be the only canon-plausible explanation with a pairing with only a few scenes of proof to back it up.
Yeah, and I agree with Moonfall. She needs to grow up, or a relationship is impossible - she'd never admit to a weakness like love...with this pairing you've gotta tread carefully around the OOC'ness.
Sorry, going off on a tangent there ^^;
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Gray Godot wrote:
Something to change the subject and start a new idea tu discuss here:
I've been thinking... when is the moment when Franziska, Phoenix or both would realize they are in love? I've tried to imagine it but it's kinda hard to set a moment where Franziska was supposed to fall in love. Maybe when Phoenix brought her the tulips? Maybe when she decided to give him the evidence that helped him declare Engarde guilty? When she left back to Germany? There are too many chances but all of them as unreliable as a dog flying.
So... What do you think? When do you think they fell in love? GS2, GS3 or after that? If they did, what was the factor that made them notice each other?
(If there's something you don't understand, I'm sorry, even though I know how to speak and write english I'm still not THAT good at it)
I've been thinking... when is the moment when Franziska, Phoenix or both would realize they are in love? I've tried to imagine it but it's kinda hard to set a moment where Franziska was supposed to fall in love. Maybe when Phoenix brought her the tulips? Maybe when she decided to give him the evidence that helped him declare Engarde guilty? When she left back to Germany? There are too many chances but all of them as unreliable as a dog flying.
So... What do you think? When do you think they fell in love? GS2, GS3 or after that? If they did, what was the factor that made them notice each other?
(If there's something you don't understand, I'm sorry, even though I know how to speak and write english I'm still not THAT good at it)
Hmm it depends. I mostly imagine it to take place in some event after 3-5 where Phoenix and Franziska are stuck together and they bond more and Phoenix risks his life for Franziska and Franziska's thankful for Phoenix and starts to let herself admit that she has feelings for him and as gratitude, she kisses Phoenix and that's how I think that the relationship starts.
Though it's most likely to happen after AJ and I agree, Franziska wouldn't forgive Phoenix easily for losing his badge. But I think of this for two reasons, either a) she lost all chance to crush him or b) She's disappointed at the fact that his attorney's badge was what got them to meet. Obviously I agree with the second option, like all fans would to support their ships would. There's a lot to imagine but then, imagining is the best part of it!
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Phoenix is one of the men who got Franziska to get a glimpse of the true meaning of the Law. He attempted to teach her that justice and the truth, not perfection, matter. So upon learning that he was disbarred for forging evidence, she'd be mad as hell at him, crush or not. She's got a huge temper, and the whole 'Silence, fool!' thing going on so I figure she'd give Nick (who would be thoroughly depressed and wouldn't fight back) a royal bashing. And then would stalk out. That is just her. She's also an insecure 19 year old, so she'd feel like a solid point in her life had been shattered, and knowing her she'd take it out with anger.
(This is why PxF is not my head canon ^^;)
...that would make an interesting fic. I think i'll write it one day :D
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The moment when they would admit they are in love is after 3-5 just after they celebrate in Tres Bien, at least I imagine Fanny gives Nick, Maya an Pearls a lift. Maya and Pearls get out of the car in the train station and the when Franny takes Nick home she talks to him before he gets out and they kiss eachother. But that's just me.
The thing of Franny defending Nick against Godot is quite a good idea.
But there are better options, it may have been just common sense, to help someone who was doing something good.
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Phoenix/Franziska is really awesome, and also Edgeworth's reaction to it would be hilarious.
I grinned when Phoenix brought tulips to her in 2-4, and called her cute in 3-5. :D
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Hey Franziska. : Hello, Phoenix Wright.*Edgeworth is watching behind a random plant he found somewhere when he sees Phoenix and Franziska kiss.*
They were dating behind my back?!And he acidentally says it out so loud that they hear him.
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Yeah that's one of the cutest parts in AA in my opinion. And I agree with Gray Godot about the post 3-5 thing but I just imagine some cute event between Nick and Franzy that brings them together. But in reality, it would probably happen post AJ because of the whole losing attorney's badge thing. If it wasn't for Kristoph, we could have had more possibilities for Phoenix/Franziska.
That's right... but think about it, they could develop an awesome relationship but when he lost his badge she might think: "He used falsified evidence... he's not the man I knew and fell in love with" Then she'll dump him and be totally away of him fo the next 7 years... but when he starts working on the jurist system she helps him and when she finally finds out that he was innocent they come back together... (Am I that desperate to argue about a chance to see them together?)
Fuck Kristoph, he's taken 7 years of "foolish" love from Franny and Nick.
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Gray Godot wrote:
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Yeah that's one of the cutest parts in AA in my opinion. And I agree with Gray Godot about the post 3-5 thing but I just imagine some cute event between Nick and Franzy that brings them together. But in reality, it would probably happen post AJ because of the whole losing attorney's badge thing. If it wasn't for Kristoph, we could have had more possibilities for Phoenix/Franziska.
That's right... but think about it, they could develop an awesome relationship but when he lost his badge she might think: "He used falsified evidence... he's not the man I knew and fell in love with" Then she'll dump him and be totally away of him for the next 7 years... but when he starts working on the jurist system she helps him and when she finally finds out that he was innocent they come back together... (Am I that desperate to argue about a chance to see them together?)
Fuck Kristoph, he's taken 7 years of "foolish" love from Franny and Nick.
Seconded. Kristoph is one of my most hated characters is AA. Him and Dahlia. If only Klavier was more careful he would have helped Phoenix instead of made it worse for him! I have another thing to thank Polly for. Catching Kristoph was my favourite moment in AA4.
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