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Well I know Iris was going to jail for some time after 3-5 but...considering it's Iris I think she would get off early for good behavior.
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Well let's look at Iris's likely charges.

Accesory To Murder
Tampering With Evidence
Descreation Of A Dead Human Body (For stabbing Misty Fey postmortem)

I would give her five years all things considered.
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Well let's look at Iris's likely charges.

Accesory To Murder
Tampering With Evidence
Descreation Of A Dead Human Body (For stabbing Misty Fey postmortem)

I would give her five years all things considered.

Barring the first, Adrian was guilty of the same things and she only got half a year, max.

Criminal punishment is kind of funny in AA World. Tampering with or stealing evidence, perjury, obstruction of justice, stuff like that, characters get a slap on the wrist for it, if that much. But if you commit second degree murder, you're locked up for five years before being hauled off to the gallows. :yuusaku:
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Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
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Well let's look at Iris's likely charges.

Accesory To Murder
Tampering With Evidence
Descreation Of A Dead Human Body (For stabbing Misty Fey postmortem)

I would give her five years all things considered.

Barring the first, Adrian was guilty of the same things and she only got half a year, max.

Criminal punishment is kind of funny in AA World. Tampering with or stealing evidence, perjury, obstruction of justice, stuff like that, characters get a slap on the wrist for it, if that much. But if you commit second degree murder, you're locked up for five years before being hauled off to the gallows. :yuusaku:


How was what Dahlia did second degree murder, rather than first?
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First degree is premeditated. Dahlia wasn't planning to kill Doug, it was spur-of-the-moment.

Valerie's murder was definately first degree, but she wasn't caught for that.
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Oh.

Well you do learn something new every day.

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I like to think that Kristoph helped get Iris a light sentence to earn Phoenix's trust.

You know, I don't think that Iris would be deceived by Kristoph's smiling facade. She is Dahlia's sister, after all. She'd probably keep an eye on him as penance for not being honest with Phoenix about Dahlia all those years ago. Actually, one of my theories for why she isn't present in GS4 is that Kristoph killed her, either because she was on to him or because he wanted to hurt Phoenix.

I wonder how Phoenix would react to Iris's death.

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Interesting theory. Rather grim, given how fluffy most Feenris fics are.

As far as Phoenix's reaction...well his favorite drink is "grape juice" isn't it?
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I just wonder if he'd break down in heart-wrenching sobs, or if he'd harden himself. By the time AJ comes around, he's pretty jaded.

He does drink a lot of "grape juice." :(
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I was thinking about that sometime ago...I mentioned it on the pairing debate thread I believe... :yuusaku:

If indeed Iris's absense is due to Kristoph, then that explains even more his personality change...

After all losing your attorney's badge doesn't seem that bad compared to the death of your loved one... :udgy:
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If Kristoph did kill her, I believe that she faced her death with dignity. She may have fought for her life, but I do not believe that she would have cowered.

There's no evidence in canon that Iris even knew who Kristoph was, but if she did, I have no doubt that she would have done everything in her power to protect Phoenix if she thought that Kristoph would try to kill Phoenix. That may mean warning Phoenix, or that may mean killing Kristoph. Either thing would be sufficient motivation for Kristoph to kill Iris.

Here are some other ideas I had tossing around in my mind:

1) Kristoph and Iris start 'dating.' Kristoph is only doing this to hurt Phoenix, and he smugly thinks about how dumb Iris is not to realize that he's just using her. Meanwhile, Iris knows very well of Kristoph's true nature, and she's secretly trying to get close to him in an attempt to protect/help Phoenix.

2) Phoenix cuts off all ties with Iris because he's afraid that Kristoph will try to hurt her.

So yeah. Iris VS Kristoph. It could be epic!
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If Kristoph did kill her, I believe that she faced her death with dignity. She may have fought for her life, but I do not believe that she would have cowered.

There's no evidence in canon that Iris even knew who Kristoph was, but if she did, I have no doubt that she would have done everything in her power to protect Phoenix if she thought that Kristoph would try to kill Phoenix. That may mean warning Phoenix, or that may mean killing Kristoph. Either thing would be sufficient motivation for Kristoph to kill Iris.

Here are some other ideas I had tossing around in my mind:

1) Kristoph and Iris start 'dating.' Kristoph is only doing this to hurt Phoenix, and he smugly thinks about how dumb Iris is not to realize that he's just using her. Meanwhile, Iris knows very well of Kristoph's true nature, and she's secretly trying to get close to him in an attempt to protect/help Phoenix.

2) Phoenix cuts off all ties with Iris because he's afraid that Kristoph will try to hurt her.

So yeah. Iris VS Kristoph. It could be epic!


This.... It's genius........... :edgy:
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If Kristoph did kill her, I believe that she faced her death with dignity. She may have fought for her life, but I do not believe that she would have cowered.

There's no evidence in canon that Iris even knew who Kristoph was, but if she did, I have no doubt that she would have done everything in her power to protect Phoenix if she thought that Kristoph would try to kill Phoenix. That may mean warning Phoenix, or that may mean killing Kristoph. Either thing would be sufficient motivation for Kristoph to kill Iris.

Here are some other ideas I had tossing around in my mind:

1) Kristoph and Iris start 'dating.' Kristoph is only doing this to hurt Phoenix, and he smugly thinks about how dumb Iris is not to realize that he's just using her. Meanwhile, Iris knows very well of Kristoph's true nature, and she's secretly trying to get close to him in an attempt to protect/help Phoenix.

2) Phoenix cuts off all ties with Iris because he's afraid that Kristoph will try to hurt her.

So yeah. Iris VS Kristoph. It could be epic!

WTH!Are u serious?
Sadly :sadshoe: do I gotta say that those assumptions sound kind of right , because I think that.NO,I am afraid that Iris would fall in love with such a pretty face
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(I object myself)
I think Iris has too deep feelings for Phoenix and I thimk she can´t easily drop such feelings . . .
At leas I couldn´t :yuusaku:
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If Kristoph did kill her, I believe that she faced her death with dignity. She may have fought for her life, but I do not believe that she would have cowered.

There's no evidence in canon that Iris even knew who Kristoph was, but if she did, I have no doubt that she would have done everything in her power to protect Phoenix if she thought that Kristoph would try to kill Phoenix. That may mean warning Phoenix, or that may mean killing Kristoph. Either thing would be sufficient motivation for Kristoph to kill Iris.

Here are some other ideas I had tossing around in my mind:

1) Kristoph and Iris start 'dating.' Kristoph is only doing this to hurt Phoenix, and he smugly thinks about how dumb Iris is not to realize that he's just using her. Meanwhile, Iris knows very well of Kristoph's true nature, and she's secretly trying to get close to him in an attempt to protect/help Phoenix.

2) Phoenix cuts off all ties with Iris because he's afraid that Kristoph will try to hurt her.

So yeah. Iris VS Kristoph. It could be epic!

WTH!Are u serious?
Sadly :sadshoe: do I gotta say that those assumptions sound kind of right , because I think that.NO,I am afraid that Iris would fall in love with such a pretty face
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(I object myself)
I think Iris has too deep feelings for Phoenix and I thimk she can´t easily drop such feelings . . .
At leas I couldn´t :yuusaku:


Remember, in this scenario, she is getting close to Kristoph to PROTECT Phoenix.

That is hardcore right there.... :redd:
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But she doesn´t even know Kristoph and Kristoph doesn´t know Iris either.
So . . . . :yuusaku:
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But she doesn´t even know Kristoph and Kristoph doesn´t know Iris either.
So . . . . :yuusaku:

Well it was just assuming that this happened.

There's no way of proving it really happened, it's just fun to imagine scenarios like that.

A lot of that gets seen around here too. :godot:
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Yaragorm wrote:
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But she doesn´t even know Kristoph and Kristoph doesn´t know Iris either.
So . . . . :yuusaku:

Well it was just assuming that this happened.

There's no way of proving it really happened, it's just fun to imagine scenarios like that.

A lot of that gets seen around here too. :godot:


Got a feeling a fanfic of this will appear soon :odoroki:
All of this Kris / Iris talk is reminding me of that pic' that was posted in the hentai thread ( i still prefer :chinami: / :garyuu: though) :hotti: .
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But she doesn´t even know Kristoph and Kristoph doesn´t know Iris either.
So . . . . :yuusaku:

Well it was just assuming that this happened.

There's no way of proving it really happened, it's just fun to imagine scenarios like that.

A lot of that gets seen around here too. :godot:


Got a feeling a fanfic of this will appear soon :odoroki:
All of this Kris / Iris talk is reminding me of that pic' that was posted in the hentai thread ( i still prefer :chinami: / :garyuu: though) :hotti: .


Same here. :hotti:
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Kartoon Kween, I think your fic idea is awesome, but my computer broke down so I can't try it. Someone else?

If any of you were wondering, the prompt she made was about how Larry and Pearl kind of made a "Loser's Alliance" in 3-5, and that they might work together to get Phoenix and Maya together so Larry can pursue Iris uninhibited while Pearl can see her OTP come to life. Unfortunately for them, Phoenix ends up falling for Iris somewhere along the road, Pearl accepts Iris as her sister, and Larry the loser just falls into oblivion.
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Aww, maybe Larry ends up with Maya or Franziska.

Maya and Iris are cousins, so if Phoenix marries Iris and Larry marries Maya, that makes Phoenix and Larry cousins-in-law.

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Only if he matures!

I think Larry was more composed at the beginning of 1-4 than he ever would be...EVER...again.
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Hmm...I'll consider doing this...only because I like seeing larry fail. :larry:
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You know, I'm pretty sure that more than one person can pick up the prompt.

And I also don't see any rules barring us from collaborating on one fanfic. Who wants to work together and contribute ideas??? :redd:
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Just make sure Larry gets a happy ending because I can sympathize with him....... :larry2:
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I kind of find Larry contemptible...a little too...erm...absurdly fervent...I guess would be the best description for why.

I can sympathize with Larry too, having love wrenched out of my hands again and again.

I don't know. I'm reconsidering my stance on relegating him to desolate loserhood...maybe he should pair up with...PEARL! Got it! Larry and Pearl fall in love!
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I kind of find Larry contemptible...a little too...erm...absurdly fervent...I guess would be the best description for why.

I can sympathize with Larry too, having love wrenched out of my hands again and again.

I don't know. I'm reconsidering my stance on relegating him to desolate loserhood...maybe he should pair up with...PEARL! Got it! Larry and Pearl fall in love!

OK, maybe not THAT. :beef:
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Let's get back on topic. Kartoon Kween has two prompts. And one prospective taker.

I will add a prompt. What if Morgan Fey were to summon Dahlia, commit suicide, and frame Iris for the murder?

I know it's the plot of my fanfic, but I'm not a terribly good writer, so I'd like someone more competent to try it out.

And you're allowed to take all my plot points for your story if you do. :edgy:
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Who wants to work together and contribute ideas??? :redd:


I'm in! :larry2:

Spoiler: My ideas
I propose that this fic takes place after the events of Apollo Justice. Maybe even a few years after, so that Pearl can be legal (so a potential Larry/Pearl plot would be less creepy).

Phoenix and Iris have fallen out of touch. After he lost his badge, Phoenix was too ashamed to face her. Meanwhile, Iris thought that Phoenix stopped visiting her in prison because he grew to resent her. She lied to him and did so many despicable things, not to mention the fact that she bore the face of the person who tried to kill him!

Fast forward. Phoenix has proven his innocence, and perhaps he has his badge back (that last part is optional). Iris is out of prison, and is perhaps currently residing at hazakurain. They both still do not get back in touch, because they both figure that after all this time, the other person doesn't want anything to do with them.

Meanwhile, Larry has been trying to win Iris's love, but with no luck. Larry is a painter with a few children's books under his belt, and although he grew up a bit, he still has terrible luck with women. Either Iris kindly rejects him, or she's completely oblivious to the fact that he still holds a flame for her. Anyway, Larry frequently crashes at the Heavenly Shack for "artistic inspiration."

I figure that Pearl goes back and forth from Kurain to help Maya, and to Hazakura to bond with Iris and Bikini. While she's with Maya, she's dismayed that after all these years, she and Phoenix STILL haven't gotten together! Now that Phoenix's name has been cleared, Pearl figured that NOW would be the perfect time for them to have their happily-ever-after. While she's at Hazakurain, she watches as Larry haplessly tries to woo Iris (he probably paints her portraits and writes her poetry).

Maya is concerned for her friend Nick. Sure, his name his cleared, but he somehow seems... lonely. Trucy has either gone of to college or she's on tour, so he lives by himself now. Maya's also concerned for her cousin Iris, who still carries a torch for Nick even though she won't admit it. And then Maya decides to invite both Iris and Nick over for the weekend so that they can get back in touch.

Pearl happened to be staying with Maya at that time, and when Larry learned that Iris was going to Kurain, he decided to follow her (and hey, he hadn't seen Maya in forever!) Iris, Larry, and Pearl were all surprised to see Phoenix there! And Phoenix was surprised to see Iris.

Maybe something sparks. Anyway, Pearl and Larry perceive this as a threat, so they decide to conspire together to keep them from getting back together.

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Iris

Iris has aged about seven years, so she isn't gonna look exactly the same as we remember her. She no longer looks like Dahlia, which is a good thing. Besides looking older, I suggest that we give her glasses and a new hairstyle. P/E fans like to give older!Edgey glasses, but I think Iris could pull off the look better! As for a hairstyle, I'm partial to her pulling her hair back into a low ponytail.

Larry

I picture him as being plumper and with a fuller beard. We've ALL seen those cute chubby bearded guys (think Seth Rogen), and I think that look has "Older Larry" written all over it. I also see him as wearing a pink sweater (but perhaps it doesn't have the monkey on it).

Pearl

I see her as being a combination of Iris and Mia. Her facial structure is similar to Iris's, but she has brown eyes and hair like Mia. Her build is somewhere in between Mia and Iris as well: more petite than Mia, but more curvaceous than Iris. Mostly, I think Pearl with boobs is funny. As for her hairstyle, I picture something in-between Maya's and Iris's old hairstyles. She has longer hair, but she pulls the top parts back into that pretzel thing while wearing the rest of her hair loose. She has the same bangs.

Maya

Maya's body is probably more filled out, in a good way. She's not a Mia clone, but I imagine that she gained a bit of weight and she carries it well. Hello, new curves! I don't really care about her hairstyle (it could be anything, really), but I imagine that she wears a nice kimono and that red talisman. Naturally, she also looks older and more mature.

Phoenix

Pretty much looks the same from when we last saw him in Apollo Justice, although maybe he dresses a bit nicer now. Whether or not he keeps the stubble is up to you guys.

Shipping notes:

The obvious pairing is P/I. In the end, Larry can either be paired with Pearl or Maya. If Larry is not paired with Maya, I personally like her with Edgeworth. However, I can totally see her rocking the independent career woman thing. I'd think it would be funny if Maya and Edgeworth were in a long-distance relationship that Pearl knew nothing about, though.

Other notes:

When Phoenix sees Iris for the first time in years, it should come as a shock. She looks different, but she's still stunningly beautiful. It's the little differences that intrigue him, though, and there's a ton of subtle things that he should notice over time as they get closer. Maybe she has a scar on her body that she acquired during prison, for example. Details like this make a romantic fic more convincing!

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That....was the most beautiful prompt I have ever read.... :redd:

I know you two will do a great job in this prompt! :gant:
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IM IN TOOOOOO

Spoiler: mah Ideas!
So when Iris and Phoenix first meet they exchange only a few words feeling ashamed to see eah other again. Mainly because they feel they beytrayed each oher by not keeping in touch. So they keep away from each other while at Kurain. However due to Pearls and Larry, Maya and Feenie(Screw the NICKname) go out on what they call a date to catch up on ol' times and to also to get to know each other However Maya tries to talk to Nck as to why he stopped keeping in touch with Iris. She knew he sill had feeling for her even if they were simply a small crush. Phoenix will explain about how he feels ashamed of seeing her afer what happend. Maya being helpfull will talk Phoenix into at least going over to her and talking.

Meanwhile Larry tries to butter up Iris when she's all alone. However when Iris is greiving about beytraying Phoenix he quickly changes his game plan and soothes Iris. She will badger herself calling herself a back stabbing beytrayer(bad grammer too). Larry will buff her up by saying that Nick was lucky to get a chance at you when you were in collodge and that you saved his life. How can you back stab somone like that? Iris theirs always somone that was meant for you ya just got to find him.(hes implying himself) Iris will feel better and then hug larry for his kindsness. Larry feeling as if this is a succses(which it's not) goes to tell Pearls the good news and plan the next idea(which will also be a failure)

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Eeee, I love your ideas, Kenneth!
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Heh *blushes* it's just a little idea I'll think of more siuations. Let's get s'more contributors as well! JOIN US! :larry: and his misattempts along with :pearl: and her seolf
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W-whoa...those are huge plotlines...

But I did kind of want to

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want to keep it where Iris and Phoenix didn't have to wait 12 years to rejuvenate their relationship. That would seem a little too...angsty?


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W-whoa...those are huge plotlines...

But I did kind of want to
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want to keep it where Iris and Phoenix didn't have to wait 12 years to rejuvenate their relationship. That would seem a little too...angsty?

could u perhaps spoiler right?Like this^?
and wth is angsty?
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want to keep it where Iris and Phoenix didn't have to wait 12 years to rejuvenate their relationship. That would seem a little too...angsty?


I personally don't think it would make it too angsty. I mean, Phoenix lived through seven years of angst, and now he's ready for some happiness.

Besides, crap like that happens in real life all the time. People have to go through hell before they deserve their fairy tale endings.
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I suppose so...:larry:

OK, I'm ready to contribute ideas.
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I just thought of something!

Okay, so Iris is at Hazakurain (Pearl and Larry are also there), getting ready to visit Phoenix. She's in the kitchen, baking him a surprise (like cookies! :edgy:). Pearl and Larry volunteer to "help", and when Iris's back is turned, they put an ingredient in there to make them taste bad.

Well, that ingredient ends up making Phoenix sick, and Iris stays by his bedside taking care of him until he gets better. Their bond as lovers grows stronger!

The roles could be reversed, of course, with Iris being the one to get sick. Larry would freak out if he found out that he made Iris sick, though.
Re: Phoenix and Iris: Cute or CUTE?Topic%20Title
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A beautiful world indeed.

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Kartoon Kween wrote:
Pure cuteness.


What are you, a factory of fluffy ideas and graphics?

Thats NSM speak for "I like that idea"
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Apparently so. Kartoon Kween! I hope you never leave this thread!
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Aww, you guys make me blush! :ayame:

Feenie was so adorable, and Hobo is so cynical. I'm thinking that time with Iris will bring out Phoenix's cute side again, but in smaller doses.
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