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Seconding what Sara said. And I know plenty of wider ladies who are gorgeous. Like Plum.


I could imagine Phoenix singing Big Girl You are Beautiful to cheer her up or something. (better yet Grossberg haha)
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Let's get back to the topic at hand. No more personal attacks on one another.
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Let's get back to the topic at hand. No more personal attacks on one another.

I've been waiting for someone to say that.......
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C.Gholy wrote:
Seconding what Sara said. And I know plenty of wider ladies who are gorgeous. Like Plum.


I could imagine Phoenix singing Big Girl You are Beautiful to cheer her up or something. (better yet Grossberg haha)


Aww. I can picture Phoenix singing that too -- I love that song. :)
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C.Gholy wrote:
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Seconding what Sara said. And I know plenty of wider ladies who are gorgeous. Like Plum.


I could imagine Phoenix singing Big Girl You are Beautiful to cheer her up or something. (better yet Grossberg haha)


Aww. I can picture Phoenix singing that too -- I love that song. :)


I know right? I could imagine Grossberg intervening or helping Phoenix because he has troubles with his weight too. At first Phoenix would be a bit like "WHAT DID YOU DO TO YOURSELF?" but with guilt and with Grossberg's advice he would be more... idk either "I'll help you get through this" or "I love you anyways"
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Oh good, everyone's getting along again! :edgy:

And dang it, now somebody needs to draw BBW!Iris. I think that a wider Iris would suit the older, scruffier Phoenix.
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Oh good, everyone's getting along again! :edgy:

And dang it, now somebody needs to draw BBW!Iris. I think that a wider Iris would suit the older, scruffier Phoenix.

Amen to that! :redd:
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Speaking of chubby!Iris, wouldn't she make the cutest Grandma EVER?

I mean, picture her forty or fifty years down the road. She and Phoenix are sitting in rocking chairs on the porch, enjoying a nice Summer morning together. Iris is plumper, with white hair braided back into a bun. Maybe she has glasses. What hasn't changed is her sweet smile, or that kind twinkle in her eye.

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Speaking of chubby!Iris, wouldn't she make the cutest Grandma EVER?

I mean, picture her forty or fifty years down the road. She and Phoenix are sitting in rocking chairs on the porch, enjoying a nice Summer morning together. Iris is plumper, with white hair braided back into a bun. Maybe she has glasses. What hasn't changed is her sweet smile, or that kind twinkle in her eye.

;___;

That. would be awesome.... :acro:
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Speaking of chubby!Iris, wouldn't she make the cutest Grandma EVER?

I mean, picture her forty or fifty years down the road. She and Phoenix are sitting in rocking chairs on the porch, enjoying a nice Summer morning together. Iris is plumper, with white hair braided back into a bun. Maybe she has glasses. What hasn't changed is her sweet smile, or that kind twinkle in her eye.

;___;

It´s something different if they are older!
I think chubbier old persons are kinda cute . . .
My grandmother was chubby . . .But now she is at a better place :yogi:
I HOPE SO! :yani-fist:
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My grandmother was chubby . . .But now she is at a better place :yogi:
I HOPE SO! :yani-fist:

I'm sure that she is. :pearl:

I hope that Iris will grow old to be a happy grandma (I say, as if she's a real person).

...You know, as opposed to a miserable and somewhat crazy old hag in a jail cell. Her hair all in her face... nothing but skin and bones and wide, staring eyes... spirit broken years and years ago...

Well, that was a complete 180. B-but I'm sure that the grandma scenario is more likely!

Because come on. Iris was made to be a grandma!
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Kartoon Kween wrote:
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My grandmother was chubby . . .But now she is at a better place :yogi:
I HOPE SO! :yani-fist:

I'm sure that she is. :pearl:

I hope that Iris will grow old to be a happy grandma (I say, as if she's a real person).

...You know, as opposed to a miserable and somewhat crazy old hag in a jail cell. Her hair all in her face... nothing but skin and bones and wide, staring eyes... spirit broken years and years ago...

Well, that was a complete 180. B-but I'm sure that the grandma scenario is more likely!

Because come on. Iris was made to be a grandma!

Now am I wondering about grand children!
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Trucy would have to have a baby!

Or maybe Rissy and Feenie had a litter of their own. And then THAT litter would have to have a litter.

WAVE OF BABIES
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Trucy would have to have a baby!

Or maybe Rissy and Feenie had a litter of their own. And then THAT litter would have to have a litter.

WAVE OF BABIES

OMG!Now am I imagining little kids yelling objection but in a cute child way and then comes :udgy:
to pay a visit and one off the kiddis grab :udgy: ´s beard! (almost dies from cuteness)
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If Iris is a grandma then Bikini would be a great-grandma. Maybe Bikini can hook up with the Judge, and then the Judge would be the great-grandfather! Lots of beard-pulling! :D
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If Iris is a grandma then Bikini would be a great-grandma. Maybe Bikini can hook up with the Judge, and then the Judge would be the great-grandfather! Lots of beard-pulling! :D

Now am I imagining little babys with beards :gant: :yogi:
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Try imagining babies with zig-zag eyebrows. I wonder if Phoenix lightening-brows are genetic?

Imagine Phoenix and Iris having a beautiful daughter with silky black hair, dark blue eyes... and zig-zag eyebrows. XD
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Try imagining babies with zig-zag eyebrows. I wonder if Phoenix lightening-brows are genetic?

Imagine Phoenix and Iris having a beautiful daughter with silky black hair, dark blue eyes... and zig-zag eyebrows. XD

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The poor kid! :udgy:
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Fat Iris = <3

Wow. Disturbing, but now this topic doesn't suck. Thanks Looby.
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What's so disturbing about fat people?

Speaking of fat, what if Phoenix was the one to gain some weight? He might have a bit of pudge under that hoodie of his.

It's funny. On TV shows, we don't see a lot of couples that are fat woman/thin man, unless if it's meant to be comedic. On the other hand, we see fat man/thin woman all the time! In the real world, couples are more diverse. My cousin is plumper than her husband (they're newlyweds), and he treats her like she's the sexiest thing alive.

I just think it would be the cutest thing ever to see Phoenix treating Iris like she's the sexiest thing alive (and vice versa), even if (or especially if!) one of them (or both of them) gained a little weight. More of them to love, and all that.
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Speaking of fat, what if Phoenix was the one to gain some weight? He might have a bit of pudge under that hoodie of his.

It's funny. On TV shows, we don't see a lot of couples that are fat woman/thin man, unless if it's meant to be comedic. On the other hand, we see fat man/thin woman all the time! In the real world, couples are more diverse. My cousin is plumper than her husband (they're newlyweds), and he treats her like she's the sexiest thing alive.

I just think it would be the cutest thing ever to see Phoenix treating Iris like she's the sexiest thing alive (and vice versa), even if (or especially if!) one of them (or both of them) gained a little weight. More of them to love, and all that.[/quote]

Ahhh...It's good to back from vacation :damon:

Anway It's time for me to contribute.

I agree what's wrong with fat people and thin people being together!? :grossburg: :adrian: (nah just joking on that pairing) Let's try to imagine Iris looking like lil plum only with an risy face and purple dress. Maybe even more curves(it's possible! :hotti: )

Also I like your idea about Iris and Phoenix thinking of each other of looking sexier as they gain wieght. Reminds me of the the family guy episode when louis gets fat and petter likes her better. (but that ended up with a heart attack...)
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I missed that FG episode, and now I really want to see it. XD

If there are no objections, how about a bit of a subject shift?

I've always wondered what it was that made Iris fall in love with Phoenix. I think that she said that "being by his side" made her love him, but I'm left wondering if he did or said something in particular that made her fall for him. Maybe she just admired his faith in people.

And another thing! How the hell did she fail to get that necklace?! I just wish that there was an official manga or something that could shed some light on what their college relationship was like. One of my hopes is that if they ever do a Phoenix Wright anime, they'll give the Phoenix+Iris story more detail.
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Iris said that hearts grow together after a while
and the necklace matter:She started to love him so she wanted to stay together with him as long as possible AYUP! :yogi:
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I suppose that if you spend a lot of time with someone, bonding with that person is only natural.

As for the necklace matter, Iris needed to get it back from him ASAP because his life was in danger as long as it was in his possession. There's no way that she would have stalled on purpose!
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There's no way that she would have stalled on purpose!

I am not sure about that after all love makes u blind!
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Well, Phoenix treasured the item so he wouldn't part with it. Iris may have been desperate, but she wouldn't try anything to blow her cover. Plus, she is a little submissive, which may also have been a factor

Just my quick two cents.
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Well, Phoenix treasured the item so he wouldn't part with it. Iris may have been desperate, but she wouldn't try anything to blow her cover. Plus, she is a little submissive, which may also have been a factor

Just my quick two cents.


2 cents aint enough I'll contribute a nickel. I think that one day Iris was abduted by high school seniors and get really really REALLY close to *ahemrapingherahem* untill Feenie comesto save the day!(not sure how though... :eh?: )
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Well, Phoenix treasured the item so he wouldn't part with it. Iris may have been desperate, but she wouldn't try anything to blow her cover. Plus, she is a little submissive, which may also have been a factor

Just my quick two cents.


2 cents aint enough I'll contribute a nickel. I think that one day Iris was abduted by high school seniors and get really really REALLY close to *ahemrapingherahem* untill Feenie comesto save the day!(not sure how though... :eh?: )


Have you been reading my early fanfiction? That sounds like a plot device I would use over and over (no offense).

But what does that have to do with the discussion of the necklace?
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Well, Phoenix treasured the item so he wouldn't part with it. Iris may have been desperate, but she wouldn't try anything to blow her cover. Plus, she is a little submissive, which may also have been a factor

Just my quick two cents.


Yeah, she is a very submissive, shy, reserved person who is loyal to a fault.

I don't think submissiveness is a bad thing. I think that submissiveness just is. It's a personality trait, and like all traits, it can be a weakness or a strength. In Iris's case, she let it turn into a weakness.

As we all know, redemption is a major theme of the AA series. Iris is a person who desperately seeks redemption. I personally think she would have went through hell in prison... I mean, come on. The other inmates would have walked all over her. And she would have took it, because she would have felt like she deserved it (this is just my opinion, of course). Characters who have charmed lives without earning them usually aren't likable, because they aren't relatable.

I just like to think that while Phoenix was going through his personal hell, Iris was going through hers.
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I didn't mean to imply that submissiveness is a bad character trait. I apologize if my post made it seem like that.
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Well, Phoenix treasured the item so he wouldn't part with it. Iris may have been desperate, but she wouldn't try anything to blow her cover. Plus, she is a little submissive, which may also have been a factor

Just my quick two cents.


Yeah, she is a very submissive, shy, reserved person who is loyal to a fault.

I don't think submissiveness is a bad thing. I think that submissiveness just is. It's a personality trait, and like all traits, it can be a weakness or a strength. In Iris's case, she let it turn into a weakness.

As we all know, redemption is a major theme of the AA series. Iris is a person who desperately seeks redemption. I personally think she would have went through hell in prison... I mean, come on. The other inmates would have walked all over her. And she would have took it, because she would have felt like she deserved it (this is just my opinion, of course). Characters who have charmed lives without earning them usually aren't likable, because they aren't relatable.

I just like to think that while Phoenix was going through his personal hell, Iris was going through hers.


That would make some sense. Perhaps after Iris was released she would keep her personal issues with incarceration to herself to not bother Phoenix during the reclaiming of their relationship.
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^

That give me an idea for a short oneshot.

But I have a few projects first, so if I ever do that, it would take some time.
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That give me an idea for a short oneshot.

But I have a few projects first, so if I ever do that, it would take some time.


Oh I just like coming up with short ideas and long ideas if the situation arises. Your welcome.
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I had an idea of putting Phoenix and Iris in different time lines like during the revolutionary war. I would like to see Phoenix's and Iris's reaction to it.
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I didn't mean to imply that submissiveness is a bad character trait. I apologize if my post made it seem like that.


I didn't think you implied that at all, so don't worry! :edgy:

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See, there's a lot of people who think that submissiveness is a degrading trait for a female character. What's degrading is saying that females are inherently submissive, or that all females SHOULD be submissive. However, submissiveness is a trait that some women have on their own, and that is not a bad thing at all. Nobody could accuse the AA games of being sexist... Ron Delite is an example of a submissive male in the series.


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That would make some sense. Perhaps after Iris was released she would keep her personal issues with incarceration to herself to not bother Phoenix during the reclaiming of their relationship.

I'm sure that Phoenix would want to talk with Iris about her incarceration, but if she didn't want to talk about it, I wonder if he would respect that, or if he'd try to pry?

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I had an idea of putting Phoenix and Iris in different time lines like during the revolutionary war. I would like to see Phoenix's and Iris's reaction to it.

That's a really unique idea! It makes me want to see art of Phoenix and Iris in period clothing.
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See, there's a lot of people who think that submissiveness is a degrading trait for a female character. What's degrading is saying that females are inherently submissive, or that all females SHOULD be submissive. However, submissiveness is a trait that some women have on their own, and that is not a bad thing at all. Nobody could accuse the AA games of being sexist... Ron Delite is an example of a submissive male in the series.
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Female characters are pretty screwed either way. If they're submissive they're "spineless," if they're assertive they're "bitches," then words like "Mary Sue" and "slut" get thrown around for good measure. There's definitely a higher tolerance of those traits in regards to male characters. Here's some good reading material on the subject.
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Anyway before this thread looses it's inrtest new topic. What kind of pet would Iris and Phoenix get if any and their reaction?(I always imagine phoenix with a monkey for some reason lol.)
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Anyway before this thread looses it's inrtest new topic. What kind of pet would Iris and Phoenix get if any and their reaction?(I always imagine phoenix with a monkey for some reason lol.)


I don't see Phoenix with a monkey personally. I rather see them with a cat, type I haven't got a clue. I think Trucy would like playing with the cat and it would lighten up the mood.
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Anyway before this thread looses it's inrtest new topic. What kind of pet would Iris and Phoenix get if any and their reaction?(I always imagine phoenix with a monkey for some reason lol.)


I don't see Phoenix with a monkey personally. I rather see them with a cat, type I haven't got a clue. I think Trucy would like playing with the cat and it would lighten up the mood.

:shoe: seconded *meow*
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yes cats do seem to fit the calming mood of P/I. :shoe: I'd call him Jaque

(Also I was wondering for my next chapter in my Fanfaic whether Edgeworth should be a god father. And other people for good god parants.
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