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Oh and random but I hate celery, cooked or raw.
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Can't stand that shit. (People cook celery?)
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loobywright wrote:
Oh and random but I hate celery, cooked or raw.
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Can't stand that shit. (People cook celery?)
Raw celery's ok sometimes, but cooked tastes BLECH. I use celery sometimes just for flavor in certain foods, but I always pick 'em out. They're too strong of a flavor. D:
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silentxfilmstar wrote:
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loobywright wrote:
Oh and random but I hate celery, cooked or raw.
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Can't stand that shit. (People cook celery?)
Raw celery's ok sometimes, but cooked tastes BLECH. I use celery sometimes just for flavor in certain foods, but I always pick 'em out. They're too strong of a flavor. D:
I like cooked celery in soup, it adds a nice taste.
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Femme Fatale wrote:
loobywright wrote:
Oh and random but I hate celery, cooked or raw.
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Can't stand that shit. (People cook celery?)
My grandma puts it in stews. Luckily being veggie means I don't have to eat stew anymore haha
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loobywright wrote:
Femme Fatale wrote:
loobywright wrote:
Oh and random but I hate celery, cooked or raw.
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Can't stand that shit. (People cook celery?)
My grandma puts it in stews. Luckily being veggie means I don't have to eat stew anymore haha
I've never seen it cooked haha. Whenever I need to add flavour I just add some carrots and then pick them out. c:
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Femme Fatale wrote:
So clearly, we who enjoy everything raw are more healthy?
What about peppers? I like peppers when they're cooked for a little bit with lemon, but otherwise I don't.
What about peppers? I like peppers when they're cooked for a little bit with lemon, but otherwise I don't.
Apparently so. ;D
I don't really like peppers either. Although I don't mind them raw with ranch dressing. :3 But roasted red peppers look so... slimy to me. D:
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loobywright wrote:
Oh and random but I hate celery, cooked or raw.
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Can't stand that shit. (People cook celery?)
I like raw celery, once again with ranch dressing. XD I don't mind celery in soups and such, though.
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So clearly, we who enjoy everything raw are more healthy?
What about peppers? I like peppers when they're cooked for a little bit with lemon, but otherwise I don't.
What about peppers? I like peppers when they're cooked for a little bit with lemon, but otherwise I don't.
Apparently so. ;D
I don't really like peppers either. Although I don't mind them raw with ranch dressing. :3 But roasted red peppers look so... slimy to me. D:
Aww yeah, I love raw peppers too haha.
Actually, I like anything raw!
What are some good vegetarian (or vegan~) snacks or foods that aren't basically fruits cooked or raw?
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Femme Fatale wrote:
So clearly, we who enjoy everything raw are more healthy?
What about peppers? I like peppers when they're cooked for a little bit with lemon, but otherwise I don't.
What about peppers? I like peppers when they're cooked for a little bit with lemon, but otherwise I don't.
I don't really care for peppers, but I like the flavor. I hate that slimy texture.
So I made some spinach(I used the same ingredients I mentioned a little while ago) and some kimchi rice balls. I don't think the kimchi had any type of fish sauce in it, so I guess it counts as vegetarian. I didn't get a chance to eat any of it though. I ended up throwing it out because the smell began to permeate through my book bag and I figured I wouldn't have any time to eat it. It's a shame because the rice balls turned out really nice
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What are some good vegetarian (or vegan~) snacks or foods that aren't basically fruits cooked or raw?
I like fruit leathers. That shit is the shit. You can find them at different grocery stores. Go for organic though. I also like toasted soy nuts. They're salted and are really crunchy and addicting :D Other than that, I don't really know except just to avoid snacks that have gelatin or milk...or something like that XD I would like to know about more vegetarian friendly snacks too.
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Femme Fatale wrote:
What are some good vegetarian (or vegan~) snacks or foods that aren't basically fruits cooked or raw?
Okay, I realize that broccoli is a vegetable, and that this particular snack isn't vegan (it IS vegetarian, though), but have you ever tried broccoli with ranch dressing? Not salad, just broccoli with a nice side of ranch. It's amazingly good--one of my favorite snacks.
I'd also suggest "ants on a log", as my parents called it when I was little--it's pretty much celery with peanut butter and raisins--but you mentioned that you hated celery, so that's out of the question.
As for non-vegetable snacks, if you can manage to acquire GOOD naan (Indian flatbread), that's a really nice snack. Just tear off a chunk and heat it in the microwave for about 5-10 seconds.
Also, have any of you guys ever tried Veganaise? It's vegan mayonnaise, and it tastes pretty much exactly like the real thing. And if I recall correctly, it doesn't spoil as easily, which is probably why my parents (who, like me, are ovo-lacto vegetarians) keep it in the house instead of regular mayonnaise.
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What are some good vegetarian (or vegan~) snacks or foods that aren't basically fruits cooked or raw?
I found a webpage with a ton of vegan snacks you can get from the supermarket. They're not all particularly healthy- in fact most of them are cookies or similar you can buy which are vegan, but since you were looking for non-vegetable/fruit thingys, these'd probably be good.
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Raw brocolli dipped in stuff sounds horrible XD
Vegetarian snacks = Chocolate and crisps xP
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The worst case of vegetarianism I've heard is at my birthday party (my 5th) a friends mum was there to supervise, and she was a veggie, as was her son, who was there. When he reached out for a sausage on a plate because veryone else was having some, his mother cried out,
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While pregnant my iron count went extremely low, so I tried eating eggs again. It took a long time to accept eggs and even to this day I CAN NOT eat plain cooked eggs. I can eat eggs in a recipe, like cake or bread, but plain eggs cause a gag reflex every time and fun intestinal problems just like milk does to me, lol.. I don't like spending forever in the bathroom if I can help it.
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I'd like to point out that plants and fungi are also living creatures. You basically starve them to death when you pluck them from their food source (or the ground for carrots, tubers, fungi, etc) Then you chop them up, mash them, toss them, fry them, steam them, it goes on and on. The only difference is that they don't have the same organ systems and don't bleed.
They also don't have any nerves or a brain to register pain or conciousness. It could be argued that plants and fungi could be alive in the same sense that a robot could be considered alive. They pretty much function automattically.
Also, does it make us monsters for ridding our bodies of parisites or single celled viruses and bacteria. (this was a sarcastic rhetorical question)
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Slayer wrote:
I'd like to point out that plants and fungi are also living creatures. You basically starve them to death when you pluck them from their food source (or the ground for carrots, tubers, fungi, etc) Then you chop them up, mash them, toss them, fry them, steam them, it goes on and on. The only difference is that they don't have the same organ systems and don't bleed.
You know what? You're right. From now on I'm just not gonna eat.
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Slayer wrote:
I'd like to point out that plants and fungi are also living creatures. You basically starve them to death when you pluck them from their food source (or the ground for carrots, tubers, fungi, etc) Then you chop them up, mash them, toss them, fry them, steam them, it goes on and on. The only difference is that they don't have the same organ systems and don't bleed.
You're a fucking idiot. Plants and fungi are living creatures, but they aren't conscious.
Sounds like another one of the 12 million people that makes arguments without doing any research, assuming you're right.
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Slayer wrote:
I'd like to point out that plants and fungi are also living creatures. You basically starve them to death when you pluck them from their food source (or the ground for carrots, tubers, fungi, etc) Then you chop them up, mash them, toss them, fry them, steam them, it goes on and on. The only difference is that they don't have the same organ systems and don't bleed.
You're a fucking idiot. Plants and fungi are living creatures, but they aren't conscious.
Sounds like another one of the 12 million people that makes arguments without doing any research, assuming you're right.
And what difference does being conscious make?
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Yaragorm wrote:
Catgrenade wrote:
Slayer wrote:
I'd like to point out that plants and fungi are also living creatures. You basically starve them to death when you pluck them from their food source (or the ground for carrots, tubers, fungi, etc) Then you chop them up, mash them, toss them, fry them, steam them, it goes on and on. The only difference is that they don't have the same organ systems and don't bleed.
You're a fucking idiot. Plants and fungi are living creatures, but they aren't conscious.
Sounds like another one of the 12 million people that makes arguments without doing any research, assuming you're right.
And what difference does being conscious make?
They're not sentient beings. And can't feel pain.
Also, that's hypocrisy, unless you eat a 100% non-vegan diet, in which case you would be dead.
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They're not sentient beings. And can't feel pain.
Well it's not like the animals are always being eaten alive.
I heard a long time ago that there's this one culture that eats nothing that's ever lived...I wonder who they were?
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1) Torn off plants are officially dead.
2) They were idiots, I assume
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1) Torn off plants are officially dead.
1) Torn off plants are officially dead.
Slaughtered animals are officially dead too.
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1) Torn off plants are officially dead.
1) Torn off plants are officially dead.
Slaughtered animals are officially dead too.
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For one thing... fruits are meant to be fucking harvested. That's how some plants disperse their seeds, by getting animals to eat their fruits. Seeds are not digested and left whole in droppings. So when an animal who has eating fruit does his business, seeds can grow in that area. This is Grade 6 biology. Fruit-bearing plants are actually ENCOURAGING animals to eat their fruit. Anyone who tries to argue this fact even satirically is an idiot. Please take at least one class of biology before trying to argue.
Secondly for vegetables, at catgrenade said, can't feel any pain as they are being harvested. Animals feel the pain of being slaughtered. We are animals, we can relate to this, cuts hurt. Tiny paper cuts hurt like hell. Imagine getting slaughtered.
Thirdly, plants being grown for agriculture aren't abused like animals in farms.
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Well it's not like the animals are always being eaten alive.
Yaragorm...
sigh. She's not referring to the pain of being eaten. By the time you're being eaten, you're surely dead. Plant, funghi or animal. She's referring to the pain and cruelty these animals must go through in farms, she's referring to the pain they feel when they are slaughtered. Even free-range farms don't treat their animals ideally.
And as a note, neoswordmaster, viruses are non-living. Furthermore, they can never be single-celled or even multicelullar. ;)
Just to say again, I'm not vegetarian, and I'm not chastisizing people for eating meat (that would just be hypocritical) I just think some of these arguements are, frankly speaking, retarded.
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These attempts at trying to patronise vegetarianism and veganisms are horribly executed and make no sense at all. They are not satirising vegetarianism they are just proving to everyone that they are ignorant and likely failed middle school biology.
For one thing... fruits are meant to be fucking harvested. That's how some plants disperse their seeds, by getting animals to eat their fruits. Seeds are not digested and left whole in droppings. So when an animal who has eating fruit does his business, seeds can grow in that area. This is Grade 6 biology. Fruit-bearing plants are actually ENCOURAGING animals to eat their fruit. Anyone who tries to argue this fact even satirically is an idiot. Please take at least one class of biology before trying to argue.
Secondly for vegetables, at catgrenade said, can't feel any pain as they are being harvested. Animals feel the pain of being slaughtered. We are animals, we can relate to this, cuts hurt. Tiny paper cuts hurt like hell. Imagine getting slaughtered.
Thirdly, plants being grown for agriculture aren't abused like animals in farms.
Yaragorm...
sigh. She's not referring to the pain of being eaten. By the time you're being eaten, you're surely dead. Plant, funghi or animal. She's referring to the pain and cruelty these animals must go through in farms, she's referring to the pain they feel when they are slaughtered. Even free-range farms don't treat their animals ideally.
And as a note, neoswordmaster, viruses are non-living. Furthermore, they can never be single-celled or even multicelullar. ;)
Just to say again, I'm not vegetarian, and I'm not chastisizing people for eating meat (that would just be hypocritical) I just think some of these arguements are, frankly speaking, retarded.
For one thing... fruits are meant to be fucking harvested. That's how some plants disperse their seeds, by getting animals to eat their fruits. Seeds are not digested and left whole in droppings. So when an animal who has eating fruit does his business, seeds can grow in that area. This is Grade 6 biology. Fruit-bearing plants are actually ENCOURAGING animals to eat their fruit. Anyone who tries to argue this fact even satirically is an idiot. Please take at least one class of biology before trying to argue.
Secondly for vegetables, at catgrenade said, can't feel any pain as they are being harvested. Animals feel the pain of being slaughtered. We are animals, we can relate to this, cuts hurt. Tiny paper cuts hurt like hell. Imagine getting slaughtered.
Thirdly, plants being grown for agriculture aren't abused like animals in farms.
Yaragorm wrote:
Well it's not like the animals are always being eaten alive.
Yaragorm...
sigh. She's not referring to the pain of being eaten. By the time you're being eaten, you're surely dead. Plant, funghi or animal. She's referring to the pain and cruelty these animals must go through in farms, she's referring to the pain they feel when they are slaughtered. Even free-range farms don't treat their animals ideally.
And as a note, neoswordmaster, viruses are non-living. Furthermore, they can never be single-celled or even multicelullar. ;)
Just to say again, I'm not vegetarian, and I'm not chastisizing people for eating meat (that would just be hypocritical) I just think some of these arguements are, frankly speaking, retarded.
Urgh, I was reading this just as I was finishing a hamburger.
You do make a good point, but I know I'm going to continue eating meat. I really don't get why though...
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And as a note, neoswordmaster, viruses are non-living. Furthermore, they can never be single-celled or even multicelullar. ;)
I was being sarcastic when I said that. I agree with every point you made. That last bit was failed satire.
And thank you for correcting me.
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neoswordmaster -- I saw your sarcasm, I just wanted to correct you on that.
I was wondering, does anyone have any specific reasons for becoming vegetarian/vegan? Did you not like the taste of meat? Were you against animal cruelty? Was it due to the health benefits? Were you raised like a vegetarian?
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Actually, Yaragorm, my arguement had nothing to do with forcing you to become a vegetarian/whateverelseinthatvein, I just wanted you to know the flaws in your arguement. I'm not even a vegetarian myself.
Oh....it seems every vegetarian I know is trying to convert me and I just thought this was another example of that...
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The arguments about plants feeling pain are pathetic. Hilarious but pathetic.
I think I'll just starve then, wouldn't want to make a mushroom cry or a carrot bleed ;O;
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Yaragorm should learn when to shut the fuck up and stop posting.
This.
Oh, and as of last night, I've decided to stop eating meat altogether.
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