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Ropfa wrote:
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So uh... Should we expect the full and finished game coming out in early February or higher? :meekins:


It'll be finished when it's done. T-Unknown is maybe 40% coded and the majority of the artwork is finished. I was considering releasing a few chapters early, but there might be some complications with that, and I certainly wouldn't release anything until the full plot details have been finalized. So maybe you could expect some sort of preview alongside the TRT update.

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Improving the quality of some of my earlier sprites has been on my to-do list for a while, but I haven't really gotten around to it. Looks good.


Ahh ropfa, your plan to out-release Cardiovore is working! He'll never suspect a thing!
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Ok, this is the why that Sarah Keyes sprites exists.
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Yeah...
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Ok, this is the why that Sarah Keyes sprites exists.
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Yeah...


Wonderful... Erm, assets
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Ok, this is the why that Sarah Keyes sprites exists.
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I have fanart! Yay!
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I dunno if the Ask-CoI thing is still a thing, but if it is then I'll send my ask:
Spoiler: slight TRT spoilers
Dear Wayne Parker.

What prompted a person such as yourself to join the Rivales Family?


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Well, I'm not really sure how to say this... But you see, I'm not exactly the most assertive guy. It's a problem that I've always had, really, where I don't know how to stand up for myself. And other people, they......

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...Th-They sometimes make fun of me for it...

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....*sob*

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Wh-What I guess I'm trying to say is... peer pressure?

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I meant to respond to that earlier, but just kept forgetting, sorry.

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Wait.. Case 4 complete? Jee, I sure missed a lot. Downloading ASAP
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I'm liking the game so far. One big issue has me stuck, though. In Turnabout on the Web, the android keyboard won't input into the game. I don't have PC access at the moment, so that means I'm completely stuck.
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I'm liking the game so far. One big issue has me stuck, though. In Turnabout on the Web, the android keyboard won't input into the game. I don't have PC access at the moment, so that means I'm completely stuck.


Unfortunately, I can't really help you with anything to do with Android. If the input function isn't working, it might be an issue with the Android version of Pywright. Sorry to hear about your problem.
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It's a known problem with android pywright.
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E.D.Revolution wrote:
It's a known problem with android pywright.

Oh. All right then. I guess PYWright is trying to tell me to get a new laptop. Thanks for letting me know.
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Hi.
I'm not the best when it comes to reviewing or criticizing, nor am I that much of a forums' girl, but I felt that it was necessary for me to show appreciation.
I found out 4 days ago that a thing called "fanmade cases" exists... I do not know how I've missed that, but I somehow did.
I downloaded PyWright and COI, And I've got to say, I enjoyed this very much, more than I thought I would, really. I finished it in 3 days, if it wasn't for school I would've been done with it within a day!
I love Watters as much as I love Gumshoe~, just pointing that out.
Although I never understood the motives and reasons behind case 4, maybe I missed something since it's been about 3 years since I finished playing the PW series. (Investigations 2 and what came after it not included.) Or maybe I just never connected with the character/s. Don't get me wrong, it was well done, I just didn't understand the motive behind it.
But, yeah, I really, really enjoyed this and I felt that you should know. I have to thank you, since this has also inspired me to start writing again, it means a lot ^^.
For Ropfa and everyone who worked on this, you did an amazing job, thank you (:
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And I guess that's all I have to say... Again, just felt that it was necessary to tell you that I really enjoyed this, to like, show support and stuff.. yeah.
Can't wait for case 5!
Have a nice day ^^
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Nei K. wrote:
Although I never understood the motives and reasons behind case 4, maybe I missed something since it's been about 3 years since I finished playing the PW series. (Investigations 2 and what came after it not included.) Or maybe I just never connected with the character/s. Don't get me wrong, it was well done, I just didn't understand the motive behind it.

It's not just you who had a problem with the motive, although I personally am a wee bit more critical about it, feeling as though it was more of a slap-in-the-face conclusion to what otherwise might have been an interesting B plot. Seemed vastly too misplaced and quite frankly almost seemed like a last minute change. Or an attempt to write out the character (I seriously doubt that was the intent, but I still can't shake the feeling).

However I digress. This comes from a single playthrough from the as of yet completed (and hopefully fulfilling) A plot. More importantly, if I'm going to be critical of something, I always owe it to an author to not half-ass such criticism and actually do a proper 3-pass write-up. My cohort however has been brick-walled by case 2, although this looks like something Ropfa is addressing.

I would be disappointed to see all this effort go to waste, so here's hoping to great conclusion.
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This looks awesome! (Everything is awesome!) 4 complete cases, as well! How long did this take to do?
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DefenceLawyer wrote:
This looks awesome! (Everything is awesome!) 4 complete cases, as well! How long did this take to do?


It's been over four years by now. I made this thread in July of 2011, but I'd already been planning the cases for a few months before then. TRT and TOTW each took about a year to finish. I released the first half of T-Consequences a year later, and then the second half another year later, since I was working on it simultaneously with T-Unknown (and other stuff, like the Pokemon trial and Pywright tutorials, which delayed COI a bit).


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quite frankly almost seemed like a last minute change.


I finalized plans for "B plot" long before I made the decision to have "A plot" be a series-spanning thing. You might even say that "A plot" was created to supplement "B plot".

If I might ask, what made you feel that way (feel free to put everything in spoiler brackets).
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Ropfa wrote:
DefenceLawyer wrote:
This looks awesome! (Everything is awesome!) 4 complete cases, as well! How long did this take to do?


It's been over four years by now. I made this thread in July of 2011, but I'd already been planning the cases for a few months before then. TRT and TOTW each took about a year to finish. I released the first half of T-Consequences a year later, and then the second half another year later, since I was working on it simultaneously with T-Unknown (and other stuff, like the Pokemon trial and Pywright tutorials, which delayed COI a bit)


I admire the commitment, man!

I will be sure to play through it all.
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Ropfa wrote:
I finalized plans for "B plot" long before I made the decision to have "A plot" be a series-spanning thing. You might even say that "A plot" was created to supplement "B plot".

If I might ask, what made you feel that way (feel free to put everything in spoiler brackets).

Hmm, I'll have to think on that one. I mean, I could give you a technical write-up as to why none of it really made sense, but I honestly think that's not going to tell you anything more than "this contradicts existing plots", and that's not really what I would want to provide, here. As I said, I'm rather critical of it and as such I owe you a polished criticism with multiple viewpoints from my usual suspects; Not the inane ramblings of a tired programmer. :P
(If you're ever going to be negative of something, you best be able to explain why, otherwise nobody learns anything from it, thus missing the point of criticism.)

However, while I'm a little concerned to ask because it might affect my judgement of the whole thing,
Spoiler: Plot spoilers, you know the drill
Just so we are on the same page, I assume the Rivals Family is the A plot and Pearls disappearance is the B plot? That's certainly how it looks, anyway.
That then certainly strikes me as rather unfortunate, considering my whole issue with said B plot was it seemed rather out of place (in hindsight, because of the alleged reason) and poorly concluded. It actually worked better when it looked like a kidnapping plot. Seeing as the Rivals family seemed like the whole point of this from the start, I would be indeed be rather surprised if you designed it the other way round. And not really sure if that answers questions or raises new ones.
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whoknowscran wrote:
Ropfa wrote:
I finalized plans for "B plot" long before I made the decision to have "A plot" be a series-spanning thing. You might even say that "A plot" was created to supplement "B plot".

If I might ask, what made you feel that way (feel free to put everything in spoiler brackets).

Hmm, I'll have to think on that one. I mean, I could give you a technical write-up as to why none of it really made sense, but I honestly think that's not going to tell you anything more than "this contradicts existing plots", and that's not really what I would want to provide, here. As I said, I'm rather critical of it and as such I owe you a polished criticism with multiple viewpoints from my usual suspects; Not the inane ramblings of a tired programmer. :P
(If you're ever going to be negative of something, you best be able to explain why, otherwise nobody learns anything from it, thus missing the point of criticism.)

However, while I'm a little concerned to ask because it might affect my judgement of the whole thing,
Spoiler: Plot spoilers, you know the drill
Just so we are on the same page, I assume the Rivals Family is the A plot and Pearls disappearance is the B plot? That's certainly how it looks, anyway.
That then certainly strikes me as rather unfortunate, considering my whole issue with said B plot was it seemed rather out of place (in hindsight, because of the alleged reason) and poorly concluded. It actually worked better when it looked like a kidnapping plot. Seeing as the Rivals family seemed like the whole point of this from the start, I would be indeed be rather surprised if you designed it the other way round. And not really sure if that answers questions or raises new ones.


How is ANY of that confusing or contradictory?

Spoiler: CoI and T&T
Pearl was groomed by her mother to listen to her and do whatever she wants, she wants Pearl to be the master, which requires Maya dying, she also loves Maya and wants to be with her, but her Mother's influence was too strong, so she got her Grandmother to use her connections in the Rivales family to hide Pearl away where she couldn't hurt Maya, and even tried to kill herself. They called Phoenix to get him to think it was a kidnapping so he'd stop actively searching for her, and the reunion caught Pearl's ears and she went to see Maya, knowing the possible risk. And knowing how Pearl has been used by her mother in the third game, it's no WONDER she was so confused.


It's not Dark Souls, you don't have to spend hours piecing it together.
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Any particular reason for the attitude?
Either way, as it seems you want me to elaborate,
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It's how T&T apparently is supposed to lead into CoI that falls well short. I find it rath unlikely that she wouldn't have already known about her mothers intentions as she was arround for such testimony, hence her running off back to Hazakura Temple at the end of T&T. And somehow this grandparent exists that no-one had mentioned before kind of makes the concept feel forced. Oddly, this seems like an idea the would have worked better with a new set of characters than wedging in the existing ones.

Personally, it seems more missed opportunity than anything. You reuse old characters to develop them and work with new interactions. Instead this came more off as writing one off, simply for the plot. Missed opportunities as it were.
This crosses into a lot of territory that I really don't want to skimp over, however, especially as there are good points that really shouldn't be overshadowed just because of a few negative aspects. Still absent a case 5 to finish things off, and a secondary point of view to figure out the conflicts (heh).
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whoknowscran wrote:
Any particular reason for the attitude?
Either way, as it seems you want me to elaborate,
Spoiler: May contain escaped convicts/spoilers
It's how T&T apparently is supposed to lead into CoI that falls well short. I find it rath unlikely that she wouldn't have already known about her mothers intentions as she was arround for such testimony, hence her running off back to Hazakura Temple at the end of T&T. And somehow this grandparent exists that no-one had mentioned before kind of makes the concept feel forced. Oddly, this seems like an idea the would have worked better with a new set of characters than wedging in the existing ones.

Personally, it seems more missed opportunity than anything. You reuse old characters to develop them and work with new interactions. Instead this came more off as writing one off, simply for the plot. Missed opportunities as it were.
This crosses into a lot of territory that I really don't want to skimp over, however, especially as there are good points that really shouldn't be overshadowed just because of a few negative aspects. Still absent a case 5 to finish things off, and a secondary point of view to figure out the conflicts (heh).


Spoiler:
She did NOT know. They kept it from her because she was too little, which is why she still visited her in prison
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Blizdi wrote:
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She did NOT know. They kept it from her because she was too little, which is why she still visited her in prison


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That was the cause, yes, but nowhere does it say she ever visted after the incident.
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Oh snap, a discussion about my favorite development in any AA fangame.

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I really liked the way Pearls was handled because it feels realistic that she'd be extremely depressed as she began to realize what her mother did. That was one of my biggest problems with DD, because she acts just like the same ten year old girl she used to be. There was no development at all!

I think that this game's interpretation of T&T's ending is that Pearl knew she could have killed Maya with her actions and she felt guilty enough about that to go back to Hazakurain at the end. However, she didn't really understood that Misty's intention was to have Maya killed because she was too busy thinking about her own actions and couldn't view her mother in a bad light. Of course, when she found that case file in this game, she couldn't deny the truth any longer.

Heck, I dunno, that's just the way I fit things together. I can't wait for Case 5, hopefully it gives Pearl a bit more of a happy resolution instead of the heartbreak that Case 4 brought.
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My issue with the Pearl plot is that I don't think it was quite written accurately. Morgan's plot in T&T was to have Pearl channel a spirit and have the spirit kill Maya. Pearl would have been completely unaware of her mother's intentions and would have no desire or need to kill Maya. COI Case 4 gives the feel that Pearl had been "programmed" by her mother to have a need to kill Maya, when that wasn't the case. Pearl was obeying instructions that she thought would help Maya. It doesn't make sense for her to suddenly have a need to kill Maya. Phoenix's logic behind Pearl's reasoning for shooting Maya doesn't quite follow in my mind. Unless Pearl had been given explicit instructions from her mother, she wouldn't have been torn between Morgan and Maya, and even then, she might not have followed through with her mother's request.
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JacenBoy wrote:
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COI Case 4 gives the feel that Pearl had been "programmed" by her mother to have a need to kill Maya, when that wasn't the case.


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I apologize if the motive section was confusing, but that's not QUITE what I was going for.

Pearl was heavily depressed due to the events of 3-5. Because of this, she ended up running away. And because she was so emotionally distressed her mind distorted events until she felt she had no choice in the matter (which absolutely happens to real people with depression all the time, by the way, though not necessarily to the extreme depicted in T-CON). Basically, she was trying to rationalize things to herself, but since nobody was around to set her straight it all went horribly downhill.

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Not sure if anyone pointed this out nor am I sure how to properly explain this, buuut..

Spoiler: T-CON
I was wondering how Pearl ended up shooting Maya instead of, well.. shooting herself. I mean.. I can imagine that she was scared of killing herself and just shot the pistol in a panicked state? And I'm imagining that she was at least aiming for her head considering the location of Maya's bullet wound. So.. how did she miss her own head? Again, I'm sorry if this was poorly explained, I dunno how else to put it.

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Not sure if anyone pointed this out nor am I sure how to properly explain this, buuut..

Spoiler: T-CON
I was wondering how Pearl ended up shooting Maya instead of, well.. shooting herself. I mean.. I can imagine that she was scared of killing herself and just shot the pistol in a panicked state? And I'm imagining that she was at least aiming for her head considering the location of Maya's bullet wound. So.. how did she miss her own head? Again, I'm sorry if this was poorly explained, I dunno how else to put it.

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The attempted suicide was a different incident. Pearl tried to do that before she even arrived at Kurain, and Maya was nowhere close when it happened.


Is that what you were asking?
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Ropfa wrote:
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Not sure if anyone pointed this out nor am I sure how to properly explain this, buuut..

Spoiler: T-CON
I was wondering how Pearl ended up shooting Maya instead of, well.. shooting herself. I mean.. I can imagine that she was scared of killing herself and just shot the pistol in a panicked state? And I'm imagining that she was at least aiming for her head considering the location of Maya's bullet wound. So.. how did she miss her own head? Again, I'm sorry if this was poorly explained, I dunno how else to put it.

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The attempted suicide was a different incident. Pearl tried to do that before she even arrived at Kurain, and Maya was nowhere close when it happened.


Is that what you were asking?

Oh no no no.

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I meant the incident in the Fey Manor. Since Pearl's the one who shot Maya when her original intent was to end her own life. ( Unless I'm understanding this differently. )
To further explain: Pearl was in the secret hallway during the two shots. After that, she accidentally shot Maya while attempting suicide. My whole question was about that part.

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BonnyMono wrote:
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I meant the incident in the Fey Manor. Since Pearl's the one who shot Maya when her original intent was to end her own life. ( Unless I'm understanding this differently. )
To further explain: Pearl was in the secret hallway during the two shots. After that, she accidentally shot Maya while attempting suicide. My whole question was about that part.


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Well, there's actually a few things you're getting wrong there.

-Pearl didn't attempt suicide while she was in Meredith's manor. She did that at a completely different place and time (both of which are unspecified in the game, apart from it being "recent"). The game only talks about one time when Pearl tried to commit suicide, and that wasn't during the period of T-Consequences. Her suicide attempt happened before she ever returned to Kurain, and was why Meredith sent her the letter.
-Shooting Maya wasn't an accident.
-She was only in the secret hallway for the final shot (the one that hit Maya). The first two shots were fired by Donatello from the balcony. She was outside with Nick, Maya, and Porter during the first two shots.

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So... Update, I guess.

Progress kind of stalled for a little while, because I was busy with other stuff. I've started working on it again the past week or so. The current chapter I'm working on is more or less complete, minus a few specific parts. I've got a framework set up for the chapter after that, and would just need to put in the dialogue (which shouldn't take long, since it's a short chapter).

At least one chapter I've already worked on will have to have some significant changes, but I haven't had much time to think about how to do it. Beta-tester responses have been pretty positive for all of the chapters except the one in question, so I'm looking to rectify that.

The updated version of The Rogue Turnabout is about as finished as it will probably be, though it hasn't been beta-tested yet. There were more changes than I thought there would be; most of them are fairly minor, but there are some pretty big ones. The actual story is still the same, but there have been some large alterations, especially in the first investigation chapter and a certain scene in the second day. I'm hoping to release the update once the next version of Pywright comes out (which I was told would be sometime in the next few months, but we'll see).

As for artwork, the backgrounds and evidence are more or less finished, minus one specific piece that's a bit experimental. All the characters have had their base sprites complete for a while and at this point it's basically just making new poses for them.
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Ropfa wrote:
So... Update, I guess.

Progress kind of stalled for a little while, because I was busy with other stuff. I've started working on it again the past week or so. The current chapter I'm working on is more or less complete, minus a few specific parts. I've got a framework set up for the chapter after that, and would just need to put in the dialogue (which shouldn't take long, since it's a short chapter).

At least one chapter I've already worked on will have to have some significant changes, but I haven't had much time to think about how to do it. Beta-tester responses have been pretty positive for all of the chapters except the one in question, so I'm looking to rectify that.

The updated version of The Rogue Turnabout is about as finished as it will probably be, though it hasn't been beta-tested yet. There were more changes than I thought there would be; most of them are fairly minor, but there are some pretty big ones. The actual story is still the same, but there have been some large alterations, especially in the first investigation chapter and a certain scene in the second day. I'm hoping to release the update once the next version of Pywright comes out (which I was told would be sometime in the next few months, but we'll see).

As for artwork, the backgrounds and evidence are more or less finished, minus one specific piece that's a bit experimental. All the characters have had their base sprites complete for a while and at this point it's basically just making new poses for them.



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Ropfa wrote:
So... Update, I guess.

Progress kind of stalled for a little while, because I was busy with other stuff. I've started working on it again the past week or so. The current chapter I'm working on is more or less complete, minus a few specific parts. I've got a framework set up for the chapter after that, and would just need to put in the dialogue (which shouldn't take long, since it's a short chapter).

At least one chapter I've already worked on will have to have some significant changes, but I haven't had much time to think about how to do it. Beta-tester responses have been pretty positive for all of the chapters except the one in question, so I'm looking to rectify that.

The updated version of The Rogue Turnabout is about as finished as it will probably be, though it hasn't been beta-tested yet. There were more changes than I thought there would be; most of them are fairly minor, but there are some pretty big ones. The actual story is still the same, but there have been some large alterations, especially in the first investigation chapter and a certain scene in the second day. I'm hoping to release the update once the next version of Pywright comes out (which I was told would be sometime in the next few months, but we'll see).

As for artwork, the backgrounds and evidence are more or less finished, minus one specific piece that's a bit experimental. All the characters have had their base sprites complete for a while and at this point it's basically just making new poses for them.


Dang, I'm surprised to see such little reaction to this post. It's awesome news! When you say "chapter" are you just referring to a court/investigation segment? Judging by what you're saying, there was at least two playable in the beta test, plus the one you're on now (or maybe done with by now) and then the one with the framework set up. So surely you're at least halfway, right...right? Haha, I kid, I'd rather wait for a great case then play a rushed one.

Glad to hear that The Rogue Turnabout is where you want it, can't wait to see the changes. Is there any need to replay the case before Case 5?
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I just got to case 3 and...and...
Spoiler: Case 3
How could you kill him? Cody was so awesome and awesome...and..awesome!

I love this so far, keep up the good work!
And, maybe it's just me, but some cross examinations don't have any music going with them.
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discipledoctor wrote:
So surely you're at least halfway, right...right?


Yes.

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Glad to hear that The Rogue Turnabout is where you want it, can't wait to see the changes. Is there any need to replay the case before Case 5?


That's up to you. There are a few new lines/conversations referring to stuff you learned in T-Consequences, but there's nothing completely game-changing. I didn't completely rewrite the entire thing. The largest changes were to the pacing of the story in the first investigation, which doesn't really affect the later cases at all. Beyond that, I've altered some scenes, added a few others, updated the psyche-locks interface, updated the fingerprinting scene, removed some buttons that didn't need to be there, and added some screen shakes and SFX to spice up the text. I'll make a full list when it's closer to being released.


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but some cross examinations don't have any music going with them.


I thought I got that fixed a long time ago... What part was that in?


On a separate note, I mentioned this in the Pywright thread but haven't gotten a response...

Could somebody with the Mac version of Pywright please upload it for me? The download link on the site is broken (I think it's the only link that's not working...). I was testing the upcoming version and like a damn fool I deleted my old version of Pywright. The beta version for .989 doesn't work on Mac (one has been made, but it has some errors at certain parts, at least for me), so I currently have nothing to test my game with.
All the files for COI are safe; I'm just not able to do anything with them currently.
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Oliver wrote:
I just got to case 3 and...and...
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How could you kill him? Cody was so awesome and awesome...and..awesome!

I love this so far, keep up the good work!
And, maybe it's just me, but some cross examinations don't have any music going with them.


Oh, I think I remember having this problem sometimes while playing through Pywright cases, but saving and reloading would usually fix it.
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Oliver wrote:
but some cross examinations don't have any music going with them.


I thought I got that fixed a long time ago... What part was that in?

I believe Sarah's first testimony.
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Oliver wrote:
Ropfa wrote:
Oliver wrote:
but some cross examinations don't have any music going with them.


I thought I got that fixed a long time ago... What part was that in?

I believe Sarah's first testimony.


Was there any music at all between the end of the investigation and that testimony?
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I heard all the music when
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Gallante appears
I also heard the trial theme, but then it just stopped after the cross examination started. Maybe Cesar was right and I just needed to reset it to make it work.
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I'm hoping to have the next two chapters of T-Unknown out to the beta-testers within a week. I have the day off tomorrow and no major plans over the weekend, so it should hopefully be possible. If not, it'll still be ready soon, because I only have a few more sprite poses to finish, and a few of those are already halfway done.

I'm considering releasing the first few chapters of the case, once Pywright .989 is released. However, due to the structure of the case, that might be easier said than done.

Spoiler: major spoilers for Turnabout Consequences
Yes, THAT decision you make in T-Con will come into play. Several conversations throughout T-Unknown will differ based on which option you chose, and it may be harder for me to implement if people have to reinstall, restart, or reload the case while waiting for the second half. So if I decide to wait until the full thing is ready, just know that it's because I want to make things more convenient not only for myself, but all the players as well.

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Hey, Ropfa, I read on TVTropes that Apollo appears as a cameo, I don't remember that, could you tell me when it happens, please?
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Oliver wrote:
Hey, Ropfa, I read on TVTropes that Apollo appears as a cameo, I don't remember that, could you tell me when it happens, please?


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It happens on the second part of the 4th case.

yes
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Oliver wrote:
Hey, Ropfa, I read on TVTropes that Apollo appears as a cameo, I don't remember that, could you tell me when it happens, please?


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It happens on the second part of the 4th case.

Ah. Thanks.
I've only just started the 4th case, so that explains it.
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