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Tilemaxosbra wrote:
So uh... Should we expect the full and finished game coming out in early February or higher? 
It'll be finished when it's done. T-Unknown is maybe 40% coded and the majority of the artwork is finished. I was considering releasing a few chapters early, but there might be some complications with that, and I certainly wouldn't release anything until the full plot details have been finalized. So maybe you could expect some sort of preview alongside the TRT update.
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Sprites
:D
Improving the quality of some of my earlier sprites has been on my to-do list for a while, but I haven't really gotten around to it. Looks good.
Ahh ropfa, your plan to out-release Cardiovore is working! He'll never suspect a thing!
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Yeah...
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Hesseldahl wrote:
Ok, this is the why that Sarah Keyes sprites exists.
Yeah...
Spoiler: big picture
Yeah...
Wonderful... Erm, assets
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Hesseldahl wrote:
Ok, this is the why that Sarah Keyes sprites exists.
Yeah...
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Yeah...
I have fanart! Yay!
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Darth Wiader wrote:
I dunno if the Ask-CoI thing is still a thing, but if it is then I'll send my ask:
Spoiler: slight TRT spoilers
Well, I'm not really sure how to say this... But you see, I'm not exactly the most assertive guy. It's a problem that I've always had, really, where I don't know how to stand up for myself. And other people, they......
...Th-They sometimes make fun of me for it...
.........
.........
....*sob*
*ahem*
Wh-What I guess I'm trying to say is... peer pressure?
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JacenBoy wrote:
I'm liking the game so far. One big issue has me stuck, though. In Turnabout on the Web, the android keyboard won't input into the game. I don't have PC access at the moment, so that means I'm completely stuck.
Unfortunately, I can't really help you with anything to do with Android. If the input function isn't working, it might be an issue with the Android version of Pywright. Sorry to hear about your problem.
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E.D.Revolution wrote:
It's a known problem with android pywright.
Oh. All right then. I guess PYWright is trying to tell me to get a new laptop. Thanks for letting me know.
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I'm not the best when it comes to reviewing or criticizing, nor am I that much of a forums' girl, but I felt that it was necessary for me to show appreciation.
I found out 4 days ago that a thing called "fanmade cases" exists... I do not know how I've missed that, but I somehow did.
I downloaded PyWright and COI, And I've got to say, I enjoyed this very much, more than I thought I would, really. I finished it in 3 days, if it wasn't for school I would've been done with it within a day!
I love Watters as much as I love Gumshoe~, just pointing that out.
Although I never understood the motives and reasons behind case 4, maybe I missed something since it's been about 3 years since I finished playing the PW series. (Investigations 2 and what came after it not included.) Or maybe I just never connected with the character/s. Don't get me wrong, it was well done, I just didn't understand the motive behind it.
But, yeah, I really, really enjoyed this and I felt that you should know. I have to thank you, since this has also inspired me to start writing again, it means a lot ^^.
For Ropfa and everyone who worked on this, you did an amazing job, thank you (:
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And I guess that's all I have to say... Again, just felt that it was necessary to tell you that I really enjoyed this, to like, show support and stuff.. yeah.
Can't wait for case 5!
Have a nice day ^^
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Nei K. wrote:
Although I never understood the motives and reasons behind case 4, maybe I missed something since it's been about 3 years since I finished playing the PW series. (Investigations 2 and what came after it not included.) Or maybe I just never connected with the character/s. Don't get me wrong, it was well done, I just didn't understand the motive behind it.
It's not just you who had a problem with the motive, although I personally am a wee bit more critical about it, feeling as though it was more of a slap-in-the-face conclusion to what otherwise might have been an interesting B plot. Seemed vastly too misplaced and quite frankly almost seemed like a last minute change. Or an attempt to write out the character (I seriously doubt that was the intent, but I still can't shake the feeling).
However I digress. This comes from a single playthrough from the as of yet completed (and hopefully fulfilling) A plot. More importantly, if I'm going to be critical of something, I always owe it to an author to not half-ass such criticism and actually do a proper 3-pass write-up. My cohort however has been brick-walled by case 2, although this looks like something Ropfa is addressing.
I would be disappointed to see all this effort go to waste, so here's hoping to great conclusion.
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DefenceLawyer wrote:
This looks awesome! (Everything is awesome!) 4 complete cases, as well! How long did this take to do?
It's been over four years by now. I made this thread in July of 2011, but I'd already been planning the cases for a few months before then. TRT and TOTW each took about a year to finish. I released the first half of T-Consequences a year later, and then the second half another year later, since I was working on it simultaneously with T-Unknown (and other stuff, like the Pokemon trial and Pywright tutorials, which delayed COI a bit).
whoknowscran wrote:
quite frankly almost seemed like a last minute change.
I finalized plans for "B plot" long before I made the decision to have "A plot" be a series-spanning thing. You might even say that "A plot" was created to supplement "B plot".
If I might ask, what made you feel that way (feel free to put everything in spoiler brackets).
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Ropfa wrote:
DefenceLawyer wrote:
This looks awesome! (Everything is awesome!) 4 complete cases, as well! How long did this take to do?
It's been over four years by now. I made this thread in July of 2011, but I'd already been planning the cases for a few months before then. TRT and TOTW each took about a year to finish. I released the first half of T-Consequences a year later, and then the second half another year later, since I was working on it simultaneously with T-Unknown (and other stuff, like the Pokemon trial and Pywright tutorials, which delayed COI a bit)
I admire the commitment, man!
I will be sure to play through it all.
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Ropfa wrote:
I finalized plans for "B plot" long before I made the decision to have "A plot" be a series-spanning thing. You might even say that "A plot" was created to supplement "B plot".
If I might ask, what made you feel that way (feel free to put everything in spoiler brackets).
If I might ask, what made you feel that way (feel free to put everything in spoiler brackets).
Hmm, I'll have to think on that one. I mean, I could give you a technical write-up as to why none of it really made sense, but I honestly think that's not going to tell you anything more than "this contradicts existing plots", and that's not really what I would want to provide, here. As I said, I'm rather critical of it and as such I owe you a polished criticism with multiple viewpoints from my usual suspects; Not the inane ramblings of a tired programmer. :P
(If you're ever going to be negative of something, you best be able to explain why, otherwise nobody learns anything from it, thus missing the point of criticism.)
However, while I'm a little concerned to ask because it might affect my judgement of the whole thing,
Spoiler: Plot spoilers, you know the drill
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whoknowscran wrote:
Ropfa wrote:
I finalized plans for "B plot" long before I made the decision to have "A plot" be a series-spanning thing. You might even say that "A plot" was created to supplement "B plot".
If I might ask, what made you feel that way (feel free to put everything in spoiler brackets).
If I might ask, what made you feel that way (feel free to put everything in spoiler brackets).
Hmm, I'll have to think on that one. I mean, I could give you a technical write-up as to why none of it really made sense, but I honestly think that's not going to tell you anything more than "this contradicts existing plots", and that's not really what I would want to provide, here. As I said, I'm rather critical of it and as such I owe you a polished criticism with multiple viewpoints from my usual suspects; Not the inane ramblings of a tired programmer. :P
(If you're ever going to be negative of something, you best be able to explain why, otherwise nobody learns anything from it, thus missing the point of criticism.)
However, while I'm a little concerned to ask because it might affect my judgement of the whole thing,
Spoiler: Plot spoilers, you know the drill
How is ANY of that confusing or contradictory?
Spoiler: CoI and T&T
It's not Dark Souls, you don't have to spend hours piecing it together.
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Either way, as it seems you want me to elaborate,
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Any particular reason for the attitude?
Either way, as it seems you want me to elaborate,
Either way, as it seems you want me to elaborate,
Spoiler: May contain escaped convicts/spoilers
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BonnyMono wrote:
Not sure if anyone pointed this out nor am I sure how to properly explain this, buuut..
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Is that what you were asking?
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Ropfa wrote:
BonnyMono wrote:
Not sure if anyone pointed this out nor am I sure how to properly explain this, buuut..
Spoiler: T-CON
Spoiler:
Is that what you were asking?
Oh no no no.
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Progress kind of stalled for a little while, because I was busy with other stuff. I've started working on it again the past week or so. The current chapter I'm working on is more or less complete, minus a few specific parts. I've got a framework set up for the chapter after that, and would just need to put in the dialogue (which shouldn't take long, since it's a short chapter).
At least one chapter I've already worked on will have to have some significant changes, but I haven't had much time to think about how to do it. Beta-tester responses have been pretty positive for all of the chapters except the one in question, so I'm looking to rectify that.
The updated version of The Rogue Turnabout is about as finished as it will probably be, though it hasn't been beta-tested yet. There were more changes than I thought there would be; most of them are fairly minor, but there are some pretty big ones. The actual story is still the same, but there have been some large alterations, especially in the first investigation chapter and a certain scene in the second day. I'm hoping to release the update once the next version of Pywright comes out (which I was told would be sometime in the next few months, but we'll see).
As for artwork, the backgrounds and evidence are more or less finished, minus one specific piece that's a bit experimental. All the characters have had their base sprites complete for a while and at this point it's basically just making new poses for them.
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Ropfa wrote:
So... Update, I guess.
Progress kind of stalled for a little while, because I was busy with other stuff. I've started working on it again the past week or so. The current chapter I'm working on is more or less complete, minus a few specific parts. I've got a framework set up for the chapter after that, and would just need to put in the dialogue (which shouldn't take long, since it's a short chapter).
At least one chapter I've already worked on will have to have some significant changes, but I haven't had much time to think about how to do it. Beta-tester responses have been pretty positive for all of the chapters except the one in question, so I'm looking to rectify that.
The updated version of The Rogue Turnabout is about as finished as it will probably be, though it hasn't been beta-tested yet. There were more changes than I thought there would be; most of them are fairly minor, but there are some pretty big ones. The actual story is still the same, but there have been some large alterations, especially in the first investigation chapter and a certain scene in the second day. I'm hoping to release the update once the next version of Pywright comes out (which I was told would be sometime in the next few months, but we'll see).
As for artwork, the backgrounds and evidence are more or less finished, minus one specific piece that's a bit experimental. All the characters have had their base sprites complete for a while and at this point it's basically just making new poses for them.
Progress kind of stalled for a little while, because I was busy with other stuff. I've started working on it again the past week or so. The current chapter I'm working on is more or less complete, minus a few specific parts. I've got a framework set up for the chapter after that, and would just need to put in the dialogue (which shouldn't take long, since it's a short chapter).
At least one chapter I've already worked on will have to have some significant changes, but I haven't had much time to think about how to do it. Beta-tester responses have been pretty positive for all of the chapters except the one in question, so I'm looking to rectify that.
The updated version of The Rogue Turnabout is about as finished as it will probably be, though it hasn't been beta-tested yet. There were more changes than I thought there would be; most of them are fairly minor, but there are some pretty big ones. The actual story is still the same, but there have been some large alterations, especially in the first investigation chapter and a certain scene in the second day. I'm hoping to release the update once the next version of Pywright comes out (which I was told would be sometime in the next few months, but we'll see).
As for artwork, the backgrounds and evidence are more or less finished, minus one specific piece that's a bit experimental. All the characters have had their base sprites complete for a while and at this point it's basically just making new poses for them.
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Ropfa wrote:
So... Update, I guess.
Progress kind of stalled for a little while, because I was busy with other stuff. I've started working on it again the past week or so. The current chapter I'm working on is more or less complete, minus a few specific parts. I've got a framework set up for the chapter after that, and would just need to put in the dialogue (which shouldn't take long, since it's a short chapter).
At least one chapter I've already worked on will have to have some significant changes, but I haven't had much time to think about how to do it. Beta-tester responses have been pretty positive for all of the chapters except the one in question, so I'm looking to rectify that.
The updated version of The Rogue Turnabout is about as finished as it will probably be, though it hasn't been beta-tested yet. There were more changes than I thought there would be; most of them are fairly minor, but there are some pretty big ones. The actual story is still the same, but there have been some large alterations, especially in the first investigation chapter and a certain scene in the second day. I'm hoping to release the update once the next version of Pywright comes out (which I was told would be sometime in the next few months, but we'll see).
As for artwork, the backgrounds and evidence are more or less finished, minus one specific piece that's a bit experimental. All the characters have had their base sprites complete for a while and at this point it's basically just making new poses for them.
Progress kind of stalled for a little while, because I was busy with other stuff. I've started working on it again the past week or so. The current chapter I'm working on is more or less complete, minus a few specific parts. I've got a framework set up for the chapter after that, and would just need to put in the dialogue (which shouldn't take long, since it's a short chapter).
At least one chapter I've already worked on will have to have some significant changes, but I haven't had much time to think about how to do it. Beta-tester responses have been pretty positive for all of the chapters except the one in question, so I'm looking to rectify that.
The updated version of The Rogue Turnabout is about as finished as it will probably be, though it hasn't been beta-tested yet. There were more changes than I thought there would be; most of them are fairly minor, but there are some pretty big ones. The actual story is still the same, but there have been some large alterations, especially in the first investigation chapter and a certain scene in the second day. I'm hoping to release the update once the next version of Pywright comes out (which I was told would be sometime in the next few months, but we'll see).
As for artwork, the backgrounds and evidence are more or less finished, minus one specific piece that's a bit experimental. All the characters have had their base sprites complete for a while and at this point it's basically just making new poses for them.
Dang, I'm surprised to see such little reaction to this post. It's awesome news! When you say "chapter" are you just referring to a court/investigation segment? Judging by what you're saying, there was at least two playable in the beta test, plus the one you're on now (or maybe done with by now) and then the one with the framework set up. So surely you're at least halfway, right...right? Haha, I kid, I'd rather wait for a great case then play a rushed one.
Glad to hear that The Rogue Turnabout is where you want it, can't wait to see the changes. Is there any need to replay the case before Case 5?
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I love this so far, keep up the good work!
And, maybe it's just me, but some cross examinations don't have any music going with them.
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discipledoctor wrote:
So surely you're at least halfway, right...right?
Yes.
discipledoctor wrote:
Glad to hear that The Rogue Turnabout is where you want it, can't wait to see the changes. Is there any need to replay the case before Case 5?
That's up to you. There are a few new lines/conversations referring to stuff you learned in T-Consequences, but there's nothing completely game-changing. I didn't completely rewrite the entire thing. The largest changes were to the pacing of the story in the first investigation, which doesn't really affect the later cases at all. Beyond that, I've altered some scenes, added a few others, updated the psyche-locks interface, updated the fingerprinting scene, removed some buttons that didn't need to be there, and added some screen shakes and SFX to spice up the text. I'll make a full list when it's closer to being released.
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but some cross examinations don't have any music going with them.
I thought I got that fixed a long time ago... What part was that in?
On a separate note, I mentioned this in the Pywright thread but haven't gotten a response...
Could somebody with the Mac version of Pywright please upload it for me? The download link on the site is broken (I think it's the only link that's not working...). I was testing the upcoming version and like a damn fool I deleted my old version of Pywright. The beta version for .989 doesn't work on Mac (one has been made, but it has some errors at certain parts, at least for me), so I currently have nothing to test my game with.
All the files for COI are safe; I'm just not able to do anything with them currently.
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Oliver wrote:
I just got to case 3 and...and...
I love this so far, keep up the good work!
And, maybe it's just me, but some cross examinations don't have any music going with them.
Spoiler: Case 3
I love this so far, keep up the good work!
And, maybe it's just me, but some cross examinations don't have any music going with them.
Oh, I think I remember having this problem sometimes while playing through Pywright cases, but saving and reloading would usually fix it.
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Ropfa wrote:
Oliver wrote:
but some cross examinations don't have any music going with them.
I thought I got that fixed a long time ago... What part was that in?
I believe Sarah's first testimony.
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Oliver wrote:
Ropfa wrote:
Oliver wrote:
but some cross examinations don't have any music going with them.
I thought I got that fixed a long time ago... What part was that in?
I believe Sarah's first testimony.
Was there any music at all between the end of the investigation and that testimony?
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I'm considering releasing the first few chapters of the case, once Pywright .989 is released. However, due to the structure of the case, that might be easier said than done.
Spoiler: major spoilers for Turnabout Consequences
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Oliver wrote:
Hey, Ropfa, I read on TVTropes that Apollo appears as a cameo, I don't remember that, could you tell me when it happens, please?
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Tilemaxosbra wrote:
Oliver wrote:
Hey, Ropfa, I read on TVTropes that Apollo appears as a cameo, I don't remember that, could you tell me when it happens, please?
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Ah. Thanks.
I've only just started the 4th case, so that explains it.
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