Episode 3: "Turnabout Sisters - 2nd Trial"
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The trial of Maya Fey has begun. Phoenix faces off against Miles Edgeworth, cross-examines April May and further investigates into the truth behind the murder of his mentor.
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boy Edgeworth's face in particular was pretty bad in this one
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The production values were very bad in this one, even compared to the first two episodes. One of the few things I thought was kinda okay about the last two was the backgrounds, they were consistently "okay", but this episodes backgrounds looked AWFUL. Like, really, really bad. I even recall the courtroom changing colour, it was incredibly jarring. The animation was again, terrible, but this was like, a whole new low. The two characters that bothered me the most were Edgeworth and Redd White, they were consistently wonky looking.
And they are doing what I dreaded most from this adaptation, the Seiji Kishi tier "I'll throw in refrences to gameplay mechanics to get some nostalgia out of the fans" trash directing. Like, why? It is so awkward. The objection bubble thing annoys the hell out of me in particular. It is so unnecessary. It didn't even happen in the first episode so they are just being inconsistent with it. I hate it so much. The text box thing bothered me enough, I don't need more of it.
They also brought the outdated autopsy report out of nowhere. They didn't even mention it in the last episode. In the show, Nick makes a big deal about not knowing about the new autopsy, when we don't even see him receive the outdated one. The pacing of the episode also felt very off, they skipped out a lot of the details.
Okay, on to positives.
I liked the music and it's integration. It just works, especially compared to the last episodes. Also, on the sound front, I think the voice acting is great.
There were some scenes in particular that I really liked. The one with Phoenix and White was pretty great. I really liked the lighting in that scene, how it took place during sunset. The more intense colour palette helped get across the, well, intensity of the scene. It was good. I also like the scene between Phoenix and Grossberg about DL-6 incident. That's about all I have to say about it though.
Not as good as episode two, but nowhere near as bad as episode one.
6/10
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They skipped a bit too much to my taste for the sake of fitting a whole day into one episode
What they did show, though, was really good. It had the right suspense, drama and humor. I particularly liked April May, and not even for the fanservice. I was really curious how she'd translate to anime, and she translated perfectly. Though, speaking of fanservice...
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Too much stuff cut too; I understand there's a need but cutting April in the detention center kills the chance of feeling any sort of sympathy for her and turns her into a one-note lackey for White. Ditto for the bellboy; he was already pretty one-note but now he's like... half-note? Quarter-note?
I don't think the series is terrible but it certainly feels like it could be a lot better.
also I already mentioned it but some of those faces, just, god
Animators, please
Focus a little more on making the characters not look like shit and a little less on completely pointless close-ups of Maya's feet
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Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
you don't get to see half the evidence until Phoenix whips it out in court to prove a contradiction you didn't know existed until he brought it up.
You're highly exaggerating. This only happened with the autopsy report as I recall, and all other evidence Phoenix has used we saw him collect or otherwise receive in the anime. And with the autopsy report, while it would've been nice to see Phoenix explicitly receive it, it can easily be implied that the Defense always gets a copy of the autopsy report too
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"Yesterday, a second autopsy report was performed, which changed the report, from "died instantly," to "died pretty much instantly."
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What are you surprised about? That's basically what happened in the game too, right?
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Nurio wrote:
sumguy28 wrote:
"Yesterday, a second autopsy report was performed, which changed the report, from "died instantly," to "died pretty much instantly."
wat
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What are you surprised about? That's basically what happened in the game too, right?
In the game, the updated autopsy report stated, "But there is a possibility the victim lived for several minutes after the blow." That's clear and concise. "Died pretty much instantly" is so vague that I'm having a hard time believing that it could actually prove anything.
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Just when I thought the pacing from last episode couldn't get more rushed, but it did. If this keeps up, we'll end this series with Nick throwing de Killer onto Engarde in a shower of sakura confetti and then cut to "THE END".
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Nurio wrote:
Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
you don't get to see half the evidence until Phoenix whips it out in court to prove a contradiction you didn't know existed until he brought it up.
You're highly exaggerating. This only happened with the autopsy report as I recall, and all other evidence Phoenix has used we saw him collect or otherwise receive in the anime. And with the autopsy report, while it would've been nice to see Phoenix explicitly receive it, it can easily be implied that the Defense always gets a copy of the autopsy report too
I don't have a problem with Nick getting the autopsy report off-screen, I have a problem with it being used to prove a contradiction before the audience even knows what it says. The same thing happened in the first case, too. It's not a huge issue, but it does give the impression (at least to me) that the animation team kind of went "yeah, yeah, you guys have already played this game plenty of times, let's keep things moving and not bore you with details on an autopsy report."
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One thing that was bugging me: the perspective was way out of wack in the courtroom scenes in episode 3. Everyone seemed to keep changing sizes.
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sumguy28 wrote:
Nurio wrote:
sumguy28 wrote:
"Yesterday, a second autopsy report was performed, which changed the report, from "died instantly," to "died pretty much instantly."
wat
wat
What are you surprised about? That's basically what happened in the game too, right?
In the game, the updated autopsy report stated, "But there is a possibility the victim lived for several minutes after the blow." That's clear and concise. "Died pretty much instantly" is so vague that I'm having a hard time believing that it could actually prove anything.
This part in the anime is The way it was in the japanese game. The english version had it changed
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sumguy28 wrote:
In the game, the updated autopsy report stated, "But there is a possibility the victim lived for several minutes after the blow." That's clear and concise. "Died pretty much instantly" is so vague that I'm having a hard time believing that it could actually prove anything.
Ah, yes. I see what you mean. I think they made that change to make Edgeworth seem more... scummy. To construe an argument from something so vague just to pull the case to his favor again, instead of interpreting facts for their likely meaning.
Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
I don't have a problem with Nick getting the autopsy report off-screen, I have a problem with it being used to prove a contradiction before the audience even knows what it says. The same thing happened in the first case, too. It's not a huge issue, but it does give the impression (at least to me) that the animation team kind of went "yeah, yeah, you guys have already played this game plenty of times, let's keep things moving and not bore you with details on an autopsy report."
I see what you mean. Yeah, I think this anime doesn't go for the typical mystery story, where the audience plays a part in trying to figure out what happened, but rather to make for some tension and drama. And frankly, I think they succeeded.
It's a different take on the story. Instead of allowing the audience "play the game", they let the cast play the game, and we're here to look at it from the outside
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Caught up this week after missing last week's. I think the investigation scenes are working better than the court scenes because they get a chance to flesh out the Japanifornia world more than the games did. Both eps were a step up over episode one.
Yeah, I agree. I love the investigation scenes whereas the court scenes are simply... just fine. The new things we get to see in the investigations makes watching the anime well worth it for me
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Hoooowwww?!? He's a smug, aggrivating idiot.
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Hoooowwww?!? He's a smug, aggrivating idiot.
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...I kinda wish I hadn't spoiled myself already by playing the original versions.
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Blademaster_Orca wrote:
This is a general discussion thread for the third episode of the Ace Attorney anime, "Turnabout Sisters - 2nd Trial".
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The trial of Maya Fey has begun. Phoenix faces off against Miles Edgeworth, cross-examines April May and further investigates into the truth behind the murder of his mentor.
From one truth to another, and bad to worse in this episode...It's too crazy.
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