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O_O 3-5>2-4>1-5>1-4 for me
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Now that you mention it, I think I liked 1-4 more than 2-4. >.>
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1-4 was very nice. First time Edgeworth really opens up about his past.
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The 5th case was simply masterful, but the rest of cases were rather mediocre. I'm talking about 2 and 3 for example, which were short and underdeveloped, with little impact and predictables overall. 1 and 4 were also predictables, but right from a plot standpoint, and 5 tied them together. AA3 is 1+4+5 for me, as part of the same case. But the rest... sucked. 2 and 3 lacked the major plot twists which made 1-3 and 2-2 beautiful mid-game cases in the series.

But yeah, 5 definitely made up for it. I can't believe the Phoenix arc is finally over... I'm feeling a bit empty :sadshoe:
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I'm feeling a bit empty


Yup, with you there...what a ride that whole arc's been, though!

So many wonderful characters, and memories - best game series I've played in years.
And I'm not even kidding - I've looked forward to playing 2and 3 more than ANY other game I've owned/watched in recent years...!!!

Gonna miss this ol' Gang though - hard to let 'em go without a fight!
At least they'll always be on call in the ol' games...so they'll always be around to share the old magic when it's needed!

~Raises his mug of coffee, and grins~ Here's to the Phoenix Wright Saga...greatness to the last drop!
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Awesome case cause of all the interesting gameplay and story
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godot is evil

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of course its the best case
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U can play as Edgie. It has iris too.

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Takita wrote:
It's awesome............

4-2 is cooler though. *Shot*


EXACTLY! Could someone please tell me what makes 3-5 so much more awesome than every case in the game so that I may be more inclined to believe it rather than thinkg 2-4 > every other case in the trilogy? Sure, I thought it was a great case but definitely not the best in the series. Why is this case so overhyped? Lame deus ex machina, lame final boss, lame final-final boss, etc.

The only part I actually liked was handling Edgeworth. Unlike Phoenix, he's on top of everything, acts like he has every advantage, rarely flinches, and pointing out contradictions with him was more confortable than with Phoenix. I like the guy but he's such a worrywart and too sarcastic for my liking. Edgeworth, on the other hand, is calculating, methodical, always one step ahead of his adversary, and his "OH SNAPPLE" animation is priceless! Other than that, the only thing I found shocking was that
Spoiler: HUGE HUGE HUGE 3-5 spoilers
Iris and Dahlia were twin sisters and both were the daugthers of Morgan. Honestly, I knew they were connected somehow but I never saw that coming.

Godot as the killer was also a bit of a twist that I liked.


I also wish the ending had wrapped up a bit neater. I was glad that Phoenix's trilogy was finally coming to and end, but COME ON! What about poor ol' Godot? Never got to see Mia again! Where's the huge celebration at the end? Why the lame plot devices? I was expecting something epic, not watered-down-half-mind-blowing. It would have been more awesome if Dahlia had been playing everyone for all three parts and bringing her and Godot down at the same time, not killing her off in the second part of the trial. The case could have easily ran for three days, but it only went for two. WTF? =/

I repeal my previous thoughts. 2-4 > 3-5. I still like it but it receives far too much credit for its own good.
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3-5>1-5>2-4>1-4

AGREED. This case was THE BEST of the PW series, it was EPIC and tied up a lot of loose ends.

@ the people who are complaining about the ending:

You can't always have a series end the way you want..... I think the current ending is more than satisfactory.
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Well, at least it's been one hell of a ride the whole way through.

Makes me thrilled to see what they'll do next in GS4 and on.
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i totally agree with the topic.
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1. The plot with misty being swung across the river was pretty much the most epic way of manipulating the crime scene.
2. The part with Elise Deauxnim being the Master Of The Kurain Channeling School and village came as a shocker, yes, but most would have figured that out because,"Why in the world would I, Shu Takumi(maybe wrong,please correct me) choose an insignificant character as the victim of the most significant case in the trilogy?)
3. And most of all, GODOT IS THE MURDERER!!!
4. And, Dahlia Hawthorne, my favourite character returns and dissapears in the most amazing scene in the trilogy!
5. And, finally, all significant characters return for an ultimate grand slam that will surely be hard to forget for a long time.

Let's Mourn For Misty, her death disturbed me quite a bit.
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I'm pretty sure it was the best case, yeah.
It was kind of sad how
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Misty comes back and gets murdered before she can actually spend any time with Maya or Pearl
but it was still an amazing plot.
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And I honestly didn't think Godot did it until he didn't show up for court. That was one big plot twist. And playing as Edgeworth...well, I don't really need to say how fun that was :P

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^^SEE FIFTH POST UP^^
So very much agreed. There were very few exceptional aspects to this case,
Spoiler: 3-5
one being the pendulum, one being Dahlia, one being edgeworth, and NOT one being Godot. His confession was sad, but catching him was too "last second" for me to appreciate. Plus, it was like he wanted you to catch him...he kept the trial going on longer and gave Phoenix hints left and right.
The only reasons that people have given for why they think this case is the best is...

1: IT IS TEH EPIC
No, no it is not "epic". Not on the scale of the other final cases. There are only really two new characters that you interact with at all, only three with pasts that are a mystery to you.

2: It ties everything up
There wasnt very much that needed tying up except for misty feys fate and godots past. Both of these are explained well, but the rest of the games ending SUCKED.
Spoiler:
You dont see any Mia-Godot interaction, Dahlia's breakdown is so bizarre that it isnt cool, and Godot vanishes for the rest of the game after the confession.


3. Edgey, Iris, and Momma Fey.
I agree, but these dont really make it the best case ever.

Overall, there were only about 5 real, honest to god plot twists...which hardly compares to 2-4 or even 1-5. TnT's overall plot sucks, and while 3-5's characters are good they dont warrant the blue ribbon of genius that everyone is giving this case.
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I think everyone overrates this case is that since it's the final case in Phoenix's trilogy of games they feel obliged to give it the most credit ever found in a PW case. Let's hope Capcom makes GS6's ending more overhype-worthy.
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I just beat the game today and I got to say that it was completely awesome! I loved the way everything was resolved and the way it ended the trilogy. Even I spoiled myself a little bit, there were many things that still suprised me and had me on the edge of my seat. Definitely a great ending! ^^
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Man...that looks dull...this actually makes me worried for KH3 (since that team worked on the battle system)


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Walkie Talkie Man wrote:
I think everyone overrates this case is that since it's the final case in Phoenix's trilogy of games they feel obliged to give it the most credit ever found in a PW case. Let's hope Capcom makes GS6's ending more overhype-worthy.

I didn't think it because of that, I just liked the case. The ending itself was very overhyped.
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I knew that
Spoiler:
Godot was the murderer
going into the case, so I was just kind of waiting for that to come up. I just feel like I would have liked the case a HELL of a lot more if I hadn't gotten spoiled so badly :sadshoe: Fuck you, 4chan.

Yeah, it was a really well-done case. Two things stand out, though:

The ending. Everyone complaining about this is totally freaking right. The ending was crappy. There was very little closure, and I was half hoping for a half hour of dialogue, not the paltry 10 minutes or so that there was. Sure the pictures at the end were nice, but so what? Where was the content there? It felt like there was nothing really resolved.

The length. 2-4 was so much longer than 3-5, as were 1-4 and 1-5. What the hell. I can understand 1-5 being longer, but I was really expecting more stuff to go on in 3-5 that just didn't happen. Rather disappointing, really.

Although
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Playing as Edgey was awesome.
tl;dr: 3-5 is overrated; 2-4 is where it's at.
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To whoever it was that asked why
Spoiler: revenge
Dahlia didn't try to get revenge by "killing herself" while in Maya's body
, the reason for that is simple.
Spoiler: explanation
A called spirit can't hurt the medium that called it. Isn't that why Mia told Maya to call Dahlia herself?
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Geodude wrote:
To whoever it was that asked why
Spoiler: revenge
Dahlia didn't try to get revenge by "killing herself" while in Maya's body
, the reason for that is simple.
Spoiler: explanation
A called spirit can't hurt the medium that called it. Isn't that why Mia told Maya to call Dahlia herself?

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Wasn't it because Dahlia assumed she would be channeled by Pearl and didn't realize that it was Maya channeling her?

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xylophone220 wrote:
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Wasn't it because Dahlia assumed she would be channeled by Pearl and didn't realize that it was Maya channeling her?

That's what I thought... :eh?: I don't remember anything about
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spirits not being able to hurt the medium
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O_O 3-5>2-4>1-5>1-4 for me

Here is how it Goes for me 4-2 > 1-4 > 4-4 > 1-5 > 2-4 > 3-5
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If it wasn't for the insanely crappy ending of 3-5, it would be my favorite case, but unfortunately the ending was incredibly lacking, and left a massive hole that gs4 doesn't even seem to bother with.

I liked the case because alot of the stuff prior to this case built up into it, but the case itself was no where near as suspenseful as 2-4, and alot more predictable as far as what happened (the whole Dahlia/Iris thing at the very end... though... that was great. Its just really shitty how nothing was elaborated on what happens afterward, and how game 4 doesn't even go into anything from the original trilogy, let alone bring many old faces back besides Phoenix.) (I guess it boils down to the only big part of case 5 that I loved was Iris. Great character, and Phoenix and Iris definetly need to get back together somehow in game 5. I don't care how. I demand to see more of :phoenix: x :ayame: in the future games.)

So if I had to vote the "final" cases of the first 3 games... Id have to put them in the following order
2-4 > 1-4 > 1-5 > 3-5.

If I had to pick the 4 top cases it would be.
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1-2
1-4
2-2
2-4

The reason I didn't put 3-5 on there was because I really didn't like the "ending" (or in my opinion lack there of.)

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Huzzah! I'm not alone in the world. :larry: A while I was beginning to think that I might be the 3-5 equivalent to the last man on earth.
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Walkie Talkie Man wrote:
Huzzah! I'm not alone in the world. :larry:

Not even close.

I'm interested in why people think the case is so amazing, though, when there are clearly a ton of issues with it (ending, length, clearly not "epic" in any sense of the word, etc. etc.). The only thing I liked about the case was
Spoiler:
the Iris/Dahlia and Mystic Misty stuff. Although they could have gone into Misty's death and its impact much deeper, and I would have liked it more.
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I'm still debating on whether I like 3-5 or 2-4 now too.. =\ The minute I finished T&T I was like omgslifjlefjelfk that was awesome! But after that feeling wore off and I thought about it a little more a couple of things bothered me:

Spoiler:
1) HOW did Maya channel Dahlia if she's never met her/known of her existence before? According to her testimony, it was too dark to see her killer's face and she would never have known about Dahlia's involvement with Phoenix and Mia until AFTER she was in court. Even Pearl, who was a gifted medium, needed a photo of Dahlia that Morgan gave her in order to channel her, but Maya didn't even have a photo! The only explanation I can think of is that when she channeled Mia, she figured it out and told Maya.. but even then Mia couldn't supply Maya with a photo of what Dahlia looked like. >.>; And even at that point, I find it a bit hard to believe that Mia would figure out that Dahlia was behind the attempted murder (lots of people have tried to kill/murder Maya before).

2) If Godot was really trying to reconcile with himself by saving Mia's sister, wouldn't he be just as convicted by killing Mia's MOTHER? o_O;; With that kind of situation, I wouldn't have thought that he would've "saved himself" any more if he had gotten away with the whole plan. I'm not even arguing about the whole "why didn't he just hide the letter" thing.. THAT part I can kind of understand.. in a twisted way. I dunno.. I think they would've been smart enough to execute some kind of plan that didn't involve killing .. :eh?:

3) Is it me or does PW3 in general drop a LOT more hints than 1 and 2? It kinda felt.. dumbed down.. o_o. "You'll have to turn this court upside-down to get through this one." "OH! The picture is upside down!!" I kinda wished I would've had the chance to figure that out myself through more errm.. logical means.. >_>

4) I also agree about the channeling argument. It would've been a much more powerful ending if certain events weren't explained supernaturally like they did. But then, dead people facing each other off in court DID have a little fun edge to it (i.e. Mia vs. Dahlia) :edgy:


Don't get me wrong, I still liked the case, but I think maybe 2-4 was a bit more epic as a whole. Each case had a theme to it: 2-4 was "To what extent will you defend justice?" and 3-5 was more "How far would you go to protect something dear to you?" I guess looking at that point, 2-4 was more personal to me, considering the fact that they actually made you choose an option in the game. Later on, Mia (channeled through Pearls) asks Phoenix (or you) about his definition of justice and reminds you about that decision you had to make during the court session. As she said "That is your answer," it felt like she was talking to me o_o.. and I was like whoaaaaa.. In 3-5, you just sit there listening to Godot's monologue and his definition of devotion. As sad as it is, I wish they had gripped my heart a bit more like 2-4 did. Buuut I'm just being really nitpicky at this point. I still liked the case very much, and I ranted about the ending in another thread, so I'll leave it at that lol. It's still a nice wrap-up to the trilogy, but I think it could've been better.
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i swear to god, the fact that edgeworth franziska and phoenix were all aon the same investigation made the case epic

i didn't care about anything else. Just the super detective trio was enough to make me love the game.
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I loved that too, and it was great to see Franziska's character development. Especially how she used to firmly keep Phoenix away from any investigating she was doing, but
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this time she actually investigated with him.
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