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I suspected her only because I saw this blasted thread's title before the game came to the States and I assumed you guys were discussing something that had actually been revealed in 3-2. Thanks for throwing me completely off-track, guys. :P


You have to admit though, a lot of clues fit into place with her =p I still say it would have been satisfying if she really were MaskDeMasque.


I relent and agree that a number of things in the game hinted towards it. I just suspect that most of them would have blown right over my head if I hadn't seen this thread first. :yogi:
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I ruled her out pretty quick, since if she was Mask*DeMasque she would've had her own theme song rather than recycling the Lotta Hart/April May theme from AA1.


Ah, meta-gaming :godot:

I admit, I recognized the tune, but I didn't automatically remembered that it was both Lotta Hart's and April May's previous 'minor character' theme.

Still, Des deserves her own theme :yuusaku: Sadness...
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Oops, I forgot I posted in this thread earlier. But yeah, if Capcom really wanted to fool me thoroughly they'd make a killer have 2 animations and a generic theme song. It wouldn't be a very good allocation of resources, though. :pencil:
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Or at least allow Des to get on the witness bench for a testimony at least once! Lotta and April had that benefit, why the hell not for Des?

If, at least, to question her further on Ron's whereabouts, his MaskDeMasque obsession, and for breaking and entering someone's house to steal his private property/crime evidence.

Honestly, so disappointing...I would love to see how she would interact with both Nick and Godot in that respect.
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I immediately ruled out Luke because of the nose mask thingy.

And I kept trying to point it out as evidence in one part of the trial which I can't remember now ;_;
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I immediately ruled out Luke because of the nose mask thingy.

And I kept trying to point it out as evidence in one part of the trial which I can't remember now ;_;


I know! I hate it sometimes when you're not sure if something is MEANT to be exaggerated, or must be taken seriously in the context of the case =/

I've realised though, that you're not meant to point out anything about a character unless it's clothing.
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i agree with ADHDYoshi
that pinoccio nose would never be in that tight mask
i like the ace detective a lot :inspect: ZVARRI!
but not as mask the maske xD
i relacionated ron with mask demaske only for the clothes he was wearing, but not mr ace detective
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I actually did suspect her.
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I actually did suspect her.


I can imagine it would've been much interesting :yogi:

I REALLY want to put her on the witness stand for cross-examination! Seriously, her 'alibi' is watertight? Sure, but only when we find the officer who supposedly stopped her! So many possibilities...makes me want to write an alternative ending, or something, heh.
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Gyakuten Phoenix wrote:
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I actually did suspect her.


I can imagine it would've been much interesting :yogi: .

Yes. Yes it was. :yogi:

I also suspected Atmey, but then I realized the nose thing. But then I saw what he said in court, and I was like " :wacky-edgy: WTF!? His nose must hurt like hell!". And THEN I saw the real truth.


Same here. Maybe the case would have been better if Desiree was the murderer.
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I know! I hate it sometimes when you're not sure if something is MEANT to be exaggerated, or must be taken seriously in the context of the case =/


That happened to me in one place as well...

Spoiler: Case 3.4
I kept trying to suggest that Terry couldn't have carried Valerie's body to the car, because he was already carrying that iron ball around... :meekins:

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I know! I hate it sometimes when you're not sure if something is MEANT to be exaggerated, or must be taken seriously in the context of the case =/


That happened to me in one place as well...

Spoiler: Case 3.4
I kept trying to suggest that Terry couldn't have carried Valerie's body to the car, because he was already carrying that iron ball around... :meekins:


That's a good point. Also brings up the idea that the guy in the photo couldn't be Terry because he doesn't have an iron ball!

Well, no, apparently the ball disappears mysteriously when that photo is taken =/

Similarly, we are left guessing exactly HOW Atmey's nose is squished supremely flat while masquerading as MaskDeMasque in his submitted photo.
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It's said over and over that Atmey couldn't have tampered with what's shown in the photo though.
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*Presents Mask*DeMasques profile to Larry*

Larry: "Hey, Nick, you every think that might be a chick under that mask?"

(Rough quote)


I think we where SUPPOSED to suspect her.

I thought more that that was a knock on Ron's girly-man qualities.

And we know that Atmey can fit in a MaskdeMaske outfit or his alibi wouldn't've worked out.

Really, thought, I just never suspected his wife since she herself was the victim of a robbery.
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Really, thought, I just never suspected his wife since she herself was the victim of a robbery.


Good point. Although she reveals that apparently she thinks Ron is totally chivalrous, somewhat brave (?), because he gives prior warning before going to steal the World Treasures.

Granted, the security systems for such treasure might include lasers and death-traps, so yes, Ron could be 'brave'...

...mostly though, Dessie has very ambiguous morals. Especially when it comes to getting money, or something to sell for more money.

*cough*Their'side-business'*cough*
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Really, thought, I just never suspected his wife since she herself was the victim of a robbery.


Good point. Although she reveals that apparently she thinks Ron is totally chivalrous, somewhat brave (?), because he gives prior warning before going to steal the World Treasures.

Granted, the security systems for such treasure might include lasers and death-traps, so yes, Ron could be 'brave'...

...mostly though, Dessie has very ambiguous morals. Especially when it comes to getting money, or something to sell for more money.

*cough*Their'side-business'*cough*

But I think that was just an excuse she used because she loves him despite what he does.

Which is strange, 'cause there's barely any happy couples in the PW world.
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Which is strange, 'cause there's barely any happy couples in the PW world.


Ain't that the truth =/

I can imagine CAPCOM originally having either Dessie murder Kane Bullard (sad, but MAN would that be badass!), or possibly and really shockingly, have Ron (prolly accidentally) kill him.

I mean, Ron was strong enough to drag a huge man's dead weight and lift him off the ground and stuff him into a safe. If he were to suddenly panic, I can imagine him accidentally killing Bullard in the struggle.

Anyway, it seemed so close to a real tragedy like that...

...until they realised T&T is OMFG depressing and they decided to leave us with one insanely happy couple ^^

(who I might add don't get enough fanfiction, if at all. Where's the het love people!)
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I too suspected Dessie, 'nuff said.
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Another thing that I thought imediately when i read the name Masque "DE" masque, was a certain assassin that played a huge role in case 2-4.... cough cough deKiller... Especially with what he said at the ending of 2-4, but then I realized that masque de masque couldn't have been the killer, and why shelley would even be involved in the case.
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Hmm... I never thought of that.
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I suspected a doppleganger. I originally suspected Ron of stealing the arts but after I read the pattern and saw his hit-list, there was something seriously wrong with that idea. It couldn't have been Ron since he had an alibi and it couldn't be Atmey since he was in another place. =/

Damn confusing but not once did I suspect Dessie. DeMasque's heists don't leave a very effeminate trail. Fortunately, Ron does. :odoroki:
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I never suspected Dessie of being Mask*jazzhands*DeMasque.

I did think she was the killer at first, mostly because I talked myself into deciding it couldn't be Luke since he was at Lordly Tailor at the time.

Then someone (I think it was either Maya or Godot) reminded me that Dessie was at the police station that night so I was like "Well, hell, I don't know how but it MUST have been Luke so I'll just go with it and figure it out later..."
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When I was working things out in my head, I ran through everyone possible, and when I got to Desiree, she just didn't strike me as the lying type. I go with my hunches in this game, and they're usually right to some degree. I never seriously considered her because of that.

My initial theory was that Ron was indeed the thief and he was in cahoots with Luke. Partially correct.

Edit: I disqualified her because she had an alibi: being pulled over for a ticket.
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You know dessie still could be the theif. Ron could of just been covering up for her saying he was the one doing the thefts. Why else do you think she was so unfazed when she hurd he had stolen and done all these things. That cowardly acts thing was...iffy at best. You could still make the case that she knew all this all along and pushed Ron into taking the fall for her or he wanted to take the fall for her. The only piece that contradicts this evidence is the original theft involving Ron but they're might be some way to spin that to being wrong...
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I never really concidered it.. she kept going on about how muchc she hated crime, that was good enough for me.

Besides, Dessie had a really fiminine figure, and enormous boobs. My male friend kept staring at them when he was watching me play. DeMasque had a pretty male figure, and a completely flat chest, so that kind of ruled her our for me.
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Besides, Dessie had a really fiminine figure, and enormous boobs. My male friend kept staring at them when he was watching me play. DeMasque had a pretty male figure, and a completely flat chest, so that kind of ruled her our for me.

Haha... It's called "binding". Crossplaying women do it all the time. ROTFL!
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I have to admit, I thought Dessie might just be Mask*DeMasque as well. The way she seemed to know so much about the case, the manner in which she "found" the urn... I was actually a bit disappointed to learn that Ron really WAS DeMasque all along! I'd schemed that it was Dessie from the start!
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~Mask☆DeMasque~ wrote:
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Besides, Dessie had a really fiminine figure, and enormous boobs. My male friend kept staring at them when he was watching me play. DeMasque had a pretty male figure, and a completely flat chest, so that kind of ruled her our for me.

Haha... It's called "binding". Crossplaying women do it all the time. ROTFL!


Ron too, has a feminine figure, just at the other end of the spectrum XD
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~Mask☆DeMasque~ wrote:
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Besides, Dessie had a really fiminine figure, and enormous boobs. My male friend kept staring at them when he was watching me play. DeMasque had a pretty male figure, and a completely flat chest, so that kind of ruled her our for me.

Haha... It's called "binding". Crossplaying women do it all the time. ROTFL!


Baggy clothes do it for me ^_^
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Boof wrote:
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Besides, Dessie had a really fiminine figure, and enormous boobs. My male friend kept staring at them when he was watching me play. DeMasque had a pretty male figure, and a completely flat chest, so that kind of ruled her our for me.

Haha... It's called "binding". Crossplaying women do it all the time. ROTFL!

Baggy clothes do it for me ^_^

That's true, but the Mask☆DeMasque getup isn't exactly baggy.
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That's true, but the Mask☆DeMasque getup isn't exactly baggy.


It's obnoxiously frilly.

Do you realize noone, not once, asks Ron if he would like to change into some normal clothes?
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I totally thought it was Dahlia. XD

All kidding aside,I thought it was Luke from the get-go. He seemed the type, with the flashy name and the tacky costume.
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