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Non-Japanese manga has been on the rise for the past few years. You can even buy some from your local bookstore. It's often looked down upon ("It's not manga if it's not japanese! blah blah blah) but there have been talents rising all over the world, helped by programs and contests such as "Rising Stars of Manga". These foreign artists are bringing a fresh new life into manga: trying different styles and covering material some Japanese mangaka won't do.
Here are my favorites:
Dramacon by Svetlana Chmakova: My absolute favorite. Although there are only three volumes, this gem stands out. Actually, it's partially about the anime and manga fandom in America. A girl named Christie goes to an anime convention with her friends as the writer in a manga collaboration. Once there she runs into a mysterious cosplayer who will change her life forever. It deals with a surprising amount of issues and emotions, especially in the later volumes. It's very well drawn and well-written with lovable characters and a great story. What else do you need?
Bizenghast by M. Alice LeGrow: An interesting gothic-styled tale. An orphaned girl named Dinah lives in the old, haunted town of Bizenghast. She and her only friend, Vincent, come across an ancient mausoleum. They are then bound to work there to help restless spirits find their peace. The price for refusing to do the job is Dinah's own life. As she finds out more about the town's tortured past and encounters more and more horrifying spirits, can Dinah keep her sanity long enough to complete her task? Immersed in impressive detail, Bizenghast is a very interesting read.
The Dreaming by Queenie Chan: Similar to Bizenghast in some ways, this Australian manga is haunting. Identical twins Jeanie and Amber are sent to an old boarding school, where their aunt was recently appointed as principal. Soon after arriving, the girls realize that something strange is going on in this school. There are stories of girls vanishing without a trace and the scary old vice principal watches them warily. But most mysterious of all is their frightening dreams, which may be the key to the disappearances and the school's dark past. The art is done with incredible detail, especially in the Victorian-style dresses that appear frequently. Queenie Chan has a great grip on atmosphere: the manga actually feels creepy. It also presents an interesting mix of Victorian and Australian culture.
So, you're free to critique and suggest manga to others. If you're a newcomer to non-Japanese manga then this is an interesting genre to get into.
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Anyway, it's hard for me to get into non-Japanese manga because ironically(but obviously), it's hard to find in these parts, heh. I'll try and dig around to see what I can find, though.
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BECAUSE COMICS AND GRAPHIC NOVELS ARE DIFFERENT. COMICS IN JAPAN ARE REFERRED TO AS COMIKU.
Also most OEL "manga" are made by koreans so technically its manwha
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I did read Dramacon though. It was... okay. I've seen actual art of Svetlana Chmakova in which she can ACTUALLY draw and do forms in art, compared to OEL artists (who seem to come off only able to draw in that "style" , and nothing else) So I respect her for that.
And I've seen concept art of Bizenghast in various promos which is pretty interesting (and disturbing), but I doubt the plot is something to get worked over.
I cringe when I call them manga, I call them graphic novels. >:
Counterpointing the pizza argument in Dramacon, pizza are differentiated by their city/country names: New York-style; Hawaiian; etc. So there's no harm there.
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Watatata~! wrote:
I usually stray away from those because... they tend to be poor in quality.
I did read Dramacon though. It was... okay. I've seen actual art of Svetlana Chmakova in which she can ACTUALLY draw and do forms in art, compared to OEL artists (who seem to come off only able to draw in that "style" , and nothing else) So I respect her for that.
And I've seen concept art of Bizenghast in various promos which is pretty interesting (and disturbing), but I doubt the plot is something to get worked over.
I cringe when I call them manga, I call them graphic novels. >:
Counterpointing the pizza argument in Dramacon, pizza are differentiated by their city/country names: New York-style; Hawaiian; etc. So there's no harm there.
I did read Dramacon though. It was... okay. I've seen actual art of Svetlana Chmakova in which she can ACTUALLY draw and do forms in art, compared to OEL artists (who seem to come off only able to draw in that "style" , and nothing else) So I respect her for that.
And I've seen concept art of Bizenghast in various promos which is pretty interesting (and disturbing), but I doubt the plot is something to get worked over.
I cringe when I call them manga, I call them graphic novels. >:
Counterpointing the pizza argument in Dramacon, pizza are differentiated by their city/country names: New York-style; Hawaiian; etc. So there's no harm there.
Yeah, Bizenghast's plot isn't the best thing in the world, but it keeps the art interesting. :)
Many non-japanese manga (or graphic novels) can be low quality, but there are also hidden gems among them. Come to think of it, there's low-quality Japanese manga too. XD
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fatalfeline wrote:
Yeah, Bizenghast's plot isn't the best thing in the world, but it keeps the art interesting. :)
Many non-japanese manga (or graphic novels) can be low quality, but there are also hidden gems among them. Come to think of it, there's low-quality Japanese manga too. XD
When I want a break from manga I read Korean manwha.
It's better that OEL shit.
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choco-yukawa wrote:
and... the difference between comics and graphic novels is... what? O_o
Comics could bring up the image of a "comic strip" and a lot of graphic novels are not very "comical". XD Really, "graphic novel" is a fancy way of saying a longer book in comic book format.
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I also like RE:Play alot. its by a weaboo bleach fan, but...thats okay.
I like Roadsong too.
My Cat Loki was good, but I can understand what its being discontinued.
I read Steday Beat.
It was horrible.
And, you're talking non-japanese, not strictly OEL...so...manhwa anyone?
Korean manga is good too.
I love Angel Diary.
oh. and I call it manga. because thats what it is.
(how many times did I edit this DX)
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Black-Harmonia wrote:
I loved Dramacon.
I also like RE:Play alot. its by a weaboo bleach fan, but...thats okay.
I like Roadsong too.
My Cat Loki was good, but I can understand what its being discontinued.
I read Steday Beat.
It was horrible.
And, you're talking non-japanese, not strictly OEL...so...manhwa anyone?
Korean manga is good too.
I love Angel Diary.
oh. and I call it manga. because thats what it is.
(how many times did I edit this DX)
I also like RE:Play alot. its by a weaboo bleach fan, but...thats okay.
I like Roadsong too.
My Cat Loki was good, but I can understand what its being discontinued.
I read Steday Beat.
It was horrible.
And, you're talking non-japanese, not strictly OEL...so...manhwa anyone?
Korean manga is good too.
I love Angel Diary.
oh. and I call it manga. because thats what it is.
(how many times did I edit this DX)
I've heard from several people that there is very good Korean manga, but I've never read any. :/
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choco-yukawa wrote:
and... the difference between comics and graphic novels is... what? O_o
Comics are just basically oneshots. Graphic novels usually are a collection of oneshots or a story in itself.
The Japanese word for comic is comikku, the Japanese word for Graphic novel is manga, Tankoban are the individual books.
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I did enjoy Aoi House though, and thats about it.
I adore Manwha though. Tarot Cafe, The Queen's Knight, and PhD: Phantasy Degree are my faves
Bizenghast was so-so. Can't understand what is going on though...
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Lolita_Kitten wrote:
I don't really like American manga, for the pure fact I don't like the style. Its too clean cut because so many of them use the same STYLE! They all look the same to me! D:
thats kinda closed minded way of thinking about.
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Black-Harmonia wrote:
Lolita_Kitten wrote:
I don't really like American manga, for the pure fact I don't like the style. Its too clean cut because so many of them use the same STYLE! They all look the same to me! D:
thats kinda closed minded way of thinking about.
Its not the ONLY reason I don't like them, but, you have to have a damn good story line for me to read something when I don't like the style. =/
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OMFG wrote:
choco-yukawa wrote:
and... the difference between comics and graphic novels is... what? O_o
Comics are just basically oneshots. Graphic novels usually are a collection of oneshots or a story in itself.
The Japanese word for comic is comikku, the Japanese word for Graphic novel is manga, Tankoban are the individual books.
but 4-panel strip comics are called 4koma manga. and honestly I've never heard the word komikku ever.
Lolita_Kitten wrote:
I don't really like American manga, for the pure fact I don't like the style. Its too clean cut because so many of them use the same STYLE! They all look the same to me! D:
I did enjoy Aoi House though, and thats about it.
I did enjoy Aoi House though, and thats about it.
I agree! it's as if they don't try to develop their own style... japanese manga based style can have variations too!
But maybe that's because when I read a manga I usually study the art too, since every artists has their own style.
I like Aoi House too :)
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johnny rainbow wrote:
If you really want to be anal, "manhwa" is actually what Koreans use for cartoons. "Manhwa-chek" is comic books.
Did not know that....Thanks. And I don't care what I am supposed to call it as long as I like it, I could care less.
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More anal info: manga and manhwa are the exact same word(same Chinese characters), and as such, have similar meanings(basically, manga can also mean cartoons). It's just since the Japanese started using "anime" a lot more, manga has become more affiliated with Japanese comics. In the case of "manhwa" though, since it's a bit more broader, the Koreans have decided to use "manhwa" for cartoons, "manhwa-chek" for comics, and "manhwa-yonghwa" for animated movies(like uhhh Lion King and Princess Mononoke).
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speaking of manhwa, Ragnarok (of Ragnarok Online) is pretty good, too bad Lee Myung Jin doesn't seem to continue making it. :<
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choco-yukawa wrote:
wait wait, how could manga and manhwa are the same Chinese characters? japanese and chinese characters are similar, but korean characters look different for me. That said, I don't study the language...
A lot of Korean words are actually borrowed from Chinese(this is the same regarding Japanese words being borrowed from Chinese). Koreans used to use Chinese characters(known as "hanja" in Korean), but after a while they decided to use hangul only.
A LOT of Koreans have Chinese characters for their names, as well. For example, mine is 李太喜. It's just it's rarely ever used, except for filling out legal documents or whatever.
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choco-yukawa wrote:
OMFG wrote:
choco-yukawa wrote:
and... the difference between comics and graphic novels is... what? O_o
Comics are just basically oneshots. Graphic novels usually are a collection of oneshots or a story in itself.
The Japanese word for comic is comikku, the Japanese word for Graphic novel is manga, Tankoban are the individual books.
but 4-panel strip comics are called 4koma manga. and honestly I've never heard the word komikku ever.
That's because it's mostly used by producers and doujin circles, though most readers use the native term "manga". Also, I was wrong about the spelling, give me a break most of this is from the top of my head.
Also source http://www.dnp.co.jp/museum/nmp/nmp_i/a ... anga2.html
And I wasn't talking about 4koma, I was talking about actual oneshot manga.
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If you actually look up stuff I list, be warned I tend to like things that follow stereotypes or would not be considered very original by critics. Also, once I get to the english ones, they're mostly online ones.
Korean:
Witch Hunter
Ares (good at the beginning, but once the main characters go different directions, it sucks)
Kill Me Kiss Me (Unfortunately, the crossdressing goodness ends at Volume 1)
English (manga style): (BTW, I only say english because the country of origin for some might no necessarily be the United States)
BAAU Down anthologies - ...not a series, but they have had pretty good manga-style short comics in them. Unfortunately, the quality has gone down a bit (some of their best members have either left or failed to contribute for the last two years)
Red String - Shoujo to the max. Well, not really, but pretty close while still being good and serious.
Megatokyo - ...what? I know most of us have heard of it, but it's good. It makes fun of and brings out the best of anime stereotypes.
Misfile - Your typical boy-turns-girl story. But with angels and cars.
Sparkling Generation Valkyrie Yuuki - Another boy-turns girl story. Be warned: there's a lot of fanservice. A LOT. Valkyrie Yuuki has to save the world! But as a guy in mind and girl in body, he's easily distracted.
English (western-ish):
Lullaby (Hector Sevilla) - imo, a must read. Yeah, it's another "warped fairy tale" story, but it's written well. The fairy tale characters retain enough of their selves to have that familiar feel, but have extra quirks and twists that make them unique. (can be read on wowio when it goes back online if you have an account, if not, buy it)
Feather (Steve Uy) - I've only read the last issue, but it had a great mix of action and bittersweet sadness to it.
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It's pretty awesome. I want the second volume.
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Watatata~! wrote:
Speaking of TokyoPop they have been publishing more regular comic books recently and they are in fact labeled "Graphic Novels".
Ha, you don't say? They're... weird.
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