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I'd love to see Apollo percieving/with the Magatama outside of court.
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Why can't Percieve be used outside the courtroom?
I'd love to see Apollo percieving/with the Magatama outside of court.
I'd love to see Apollo percieving/with the Magatama outside of court.
People keep suggesting it and in 4-3, Apollo does sense Machi is lying but cannot percieve him (the detention centre was closing). So, it could work, I suppose. I believe it would work much like the magatama but with one "lock" that you still cannot see.
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I didnt remember 4-3, now you mention it it reminded me of Matt in 2-4.
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Maybe we would get a larger view about those black locks. And if so, then Kristoph would likely make an appearance
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Why can't Percieve be used outside the courtroom?
I'd love to see Apollo percieving/with the Magatama outside of court.
I'd love to see Apollo percieving/with the Magatama outside of court.
People keep suggesting it and in 4-3, Apollo does sense Machi is lying but cannot percieve him (the detention centre was closing). So, it could work, I suppose. I believe it would work much like the magatama but with one "lock" that you still cannot see.
Now that you've said it, I think I'd agree with you more. Besides, pressing with the Perceive would work the same way as breaking Psyche - Locks with the Magatama; you would get the witness to admit to something.
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After my last post, I was thinking that I'd like them to make the "percieve" system a little more difficult. Currently it works as only an equivalent of "one lock" from the Psyche-lock system. I'd like us to have to go through a series of finding twitches or at least fnid some other way to complicate it.
I dunno Brushel hid his from me pretty well.
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After my last post, I was thinking that I'd like them to make the "percieve" system a little more difficult. Currently it works as only an equivalent of "one lock" from the Psyche-lock system. I'd like us to have to go through a series of finding twitches or at least fnid some other way to complicate it.
I dunno Brushel hid his from me pretty well.
Brushel doesn't count. He was cheating afaic. >>
Besides, I think Capcom will have a hard time thinking of more "twitches" (especially those as hard as goddamn Brushels awerkfjasdfewa fuck you brushel)
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SaraVera wrote:
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After my last post, I was thinking that I'd like them to make the "percieve" system a little more difficult. Currently it works as only an equivalent of "one lock" from the Psyche-lock system. I'd like us to have to go through a series of finding twitches or at least fnid some other way to complicate it.
I dunno Brushel hid his from me pretty well.
Brushel doesn't count. He was cheating afaic. >>
Besides, I think Capcom will have a hard time thinking of more "twitches" (especially those as hard as goddamn Brushels awerkfjasdfewa fuck you brushel)
I love the Brushel animosity but it's true, really while I'd like to see Perceive used more the main points of interest on anyone were hands and face and that worked true for most, I'm not sure what else they'll add I'll need to count on their ingenuity.
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I think that the percieve system should include only the things that you can see in the sprite even when you're not percieving. Like...brushel's sweaty pits should be apparent from his sprite when you're talking to him ordinarily, only you have to study it a little.
I agree, having the sprites twitch unnoticeably is a great idea. But the only flaw I see here is that if the player finds out about the twitch, it would make the perceive less interesting. Still, it's a great idea for me.
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But it could work if they change it a little bit.
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I'd still like to see something used outside of court though.
How about....a text box? Those are used outside of court.
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No need to be sarcastic, I meant pressing people a la the psyche lock system or something else.
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Eh?
No need to be sarcastic, I meant pressing people a la the psyche lock system or something else.
No need to be sarcastic, I meant pressing people a la the psyche lock system or something else.
Hehe I kid you not, I bet they will use a text box outside of courtroom ya?
But yeah, when the magatama was presented and "Psycho Lock Mode" was activated a whole new stream of dialogue opened up, it's not unthinkable for something to be presented here. It could even be a combination of both styles. Sure you wouldn't use the magatama but you could still present evidence to explain a series of events like Nick did with the Magatama then you percieve where they lie as well.
I think it could easily work.
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Herr Blondie wrote:
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Eh?
No need to be sarcastic, I meant pressing people a la the psyche lock system or something else.
No need to be sarcastic, I meant pressing people a la the psyche lock system or something else.
Hehe I kid you not, I bet they will use a text box outside of courtroom ya?
But yeah, when the magatama was presented and "Psycho Lock Mode" was activated a whole new stream of dialogue opened up, it's not unthinkable for something to be presented here. It could even be a combination of both styles. Sure you wouldn't use the magatama but you could still present evidence to explain a series of events like Nick did with the Magatama then you percieve where they lie as well.
I think it could easily work.
And that's the Apollo arc's psyche-lock system. I wonder if they would still call it perceive?
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jptorres26 wrote:
Herr Blondie wrote:
grim_tales wrote:
Eh?
No need to be sarcastic, I meant pressing people a la the psyche lock system or something else.
No need to be sarcastic, I meant pressing people a la the psyche lock system or something else.
Hehe I kid you not, I bet they will use a text box outside of courtroom ya?
But yeah, when the magatama was presented and "Psycho Lock Mode" was activated a whole new stream of dialogue opened up, it's not unthinkable for something to be presented here. It could even be a combination of both styles. Sure you wouldn't use the magatama but you could still present evidence to explain a series of events like Nick did with the Magatama then you percieve where they lie as well.
I think it could easily work.
And that's the Apollo arc's psyche-lock system. I wonder if they would still call it perceive?
Of course he'd not be using the magatama so theres no psych locks...but percieve does sound like a silly name to me. Meh his bracelet would simply tingle when someone is lieing then he'd open up with the evidence and twitch finding.
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I really hope they do do something like what Blondie described, to make investigations more interesting. They might well do, if GS5 follows the pattern of AA1/JFA.
It already doesn't, PW1 was done without a 'tool'. AJ1 has introduced a tool, I'm a little concerned they won't use the bracelet outside of court since the option was there in AJ1 but...maybe it just skipped their mind or they didn't have time...all the same I expect we'll see more of it in AJ2.
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I hope you can read my post, my English rusted a lot since I'm out of school.
Well, my Idea about GK5 would be called "forget the court sometimes".
I think I can it better explain if I tell you the basic story what gave me basicaly this idea:
After the startcase of GK 5, Phönix is missing, and, Apollo has to find him, not only because of Trucy, but there seems to be someone who seems to want to kill them (Phönix and the people he live with).
That means, at the start of the next cases, it wouldn'T be just "hey, I have a new defendant-BLA", it would be an Invastigation-phase in which you would have to trace some of Phönix tracks, and find people he knows. But there are two, or maybe 3 diffrent ways you can take, like:
if you decide to go find person a (for example:
) you would met her, and get some special clues and evidences about Phönix only he or she has, or you decide to search for person b (for example: 
), you would get clues and evidances only that person has, what will be later needed in the final case (Like: The clues you get from this person 
would help you more in the last case than the clues from 
.But that would't mean that there would be any wrong decisions, but some things you get make the final case easier for you, and some do not.).
Well, but during this invastigating, you would finally meet your next defendant (who wouldn't be affected by the person you choosed to find), and than we would have the regular gameplay again, maybe spiced up with some new mechanic.
with this kind of gameplay every fanboy and -girl would get to know what happend to his or hers favorit Character, and the chases would'nt just be again only about Phönix and his gang again.
Please say if my English was just horribly wrong, I've to get used to this langugae, again >.<
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I hope you can read my post, my English rusted a lot since I'm out of school.
Well, my Idea about GK5 would be called "forget the court sometimes".
I think I can it better explain if I tell you the basic story what gave me basicaly this idea:
After the startcase of GK 5, Phönix is missing, and, Apollo has to find him, not only because of Trucy, but there seems to be someone who seems to want to kill them (Phönix and the people he live with).
That means, at the start of the next cases, it wouldn'T be just "hey, I have a new defendant-BLA", it would be an Invastigation-phase in which you would have to trace some of Phönix tracks, and find people he knows. But there are two, or maybe 3 diffrent ways you can take, like:
if you decide to go find person a (for example: ) you would met her, and get some special clues and evidences about Phönix only he or she has, or you decide to search for person b (for example: ), you would get clues and evidances only that person has, what will be later needed in the final case (Like: The clues you get from this person would help you more in the last case than the clues from .
But that would't mean that there would be any wrong decisions, but some things you get make the final case easier for you, and some do not.).
Well, but during this invastigating, you would finally meet your next defendant (who wouldn't be affected by the person you choosed to find), and than we would have the regular gameplay again, maybe spiced up with some new mechanic.
with this kind of gameplay every fanboy and -girl would get to know what happend to his or hers favorit Character, and the chases would'nt just be again only about Phönix and his gang again.
Please say if my English was just horribly wrong, I've to get used to this langugae, again >.<
I hope you can read my post, my English rusted a lot since I'm out of school.
Well, my Idea about GK5 would be called "forget the court sometimes".
I think I can it better explain if I tell you the basic story what gave me basicaly this idea:
After the startcase of GK 5, Phönix is missing, and, Apollo has to find him, not only because of Trucy, but there seems to be someone who seems to want to kill them (Phönix and the people he live with).
That means, at the start of the next cases, it wouldn'T be just "hey, I have a new defendant-BLA", it would be an Invastigation-phase in which you would have to trace some of Phönix tracks, and find people he knows. But there are two, or maybe 3 diffrent ways you can take, like:
if you decide to go find person a (for example:
) you would met her, and get some special clues and evidences about Phönix only he or she has, or you decide to search for person b (for example: ), you would get clues and evidances only that person has, what will be later needed in the final case (Like: The clues you get from this person would help you more in the last case than the clues from .But that would't mean that there would be any wrong decisions, but some things you get make the final case easier for you, and some do not.).
Well, but during this invastigating, you would finally meet your next defendant (who wouldn't be affected by the person you choosed to find), and than we would have the regular gameplay again, maybe spiced up with some new mechanic.
with this kind of gameplay every fanboy and -girl would get to know what happend to his or hers favorit Character, and the chases would'nt just be again only about Phönix and his gang again.
Please say if my English was just horribly wrong, I've to get used to this langugae, again >.<
Sounds familiarly like Remnants of the Past where the information from the first cases would be used in the last. Still, the whole game revolving on one event would be quite confusing. You can still connect the cases together but I think it would look better if it were like GS3 and GS4, where you can separate linked cases. You still need some room for other cases, that is. After all, this would be the last game in the series.
I like your idea of bringing back most of the characters of the Phoenix arc, though.
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Unfortunately our first meeting I gotta object to that.
It seems a little overly complex and I'd really rather we didn't make this about Phoenix-era characters.
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After all, this would be the last game in the series.
WHAT? When did anyone say that? I thought it was going to be another trilogy. .__.
Kamen Godot - I like the idea of starting the investigation before you get a defendant at all. But only for one case. It's been done several times before like that, too. However, I don't agree on different people giving you different clues. The GS/GK series have always been and always will be a very linear game. I don't think they'd ever even imagine making it non-linear.
Also. No bringing back old characters or the children of old characters or their sibling or their arch-rival or ANYTHING. This is Apollo's arc. If anything they'd have a cameo, or someone mentions something about them but NOTHING by name. Please.
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After all, this would be the last game in the series.
WHAT? When did anyone say that? I thought it was going to be another trilogy. .__.
I read somewhere on Gamespot in their interview with Capcom that GS5 would be the last game in the series. I'm not sure about that until now, though.....
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jptorres26 wrote:
After all, this would be the last game in the series.
WHAT? When did anyone say that? I thought it was going to be another trilogy. .__.
I read somewhere on Gamespot in their interview with Capcom that GS5 would be the last game in the series. I'm not sure about that until now, though.....
I've never seen that article.. everyone I've seen assumed that it would also be a trilogy...
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I read somewhere on Gamespot in their interview with Capcom that GS5 would be the last game in the series. I'm not sure about that until now, though.....
I've never seen that article.. everyone I've seen assumed that it would also be a trilogy...
I'm not really sure if it was true up to now. You'll never know what's going on in the developers' heads.
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well, my idea was about making a story, where we could see old characters from PW's Arc and get to know what happened to them in the past 8 jears, but not let them overshadow the new cast and possible new Characters for Apollo's run.
It would be like:
Invastigation phase "find Phönix" -> get some informations about a person Phönix knew -> find that person and talk to him/ her -> get Clues and informations -> found person says good bye -> Apollo and Trucy than find there new defendant who hasn't anything to do with the person you've found. - -> nomral case as alwys with apollo and Trucy finding some new friends or/and foes.
The "Find Phönix" invastiagtions could also maybe used to introduce a new Game mechanic (Like the thing with the fingerprints from PW1) and let the player get to used to it during this special invastigation part.)
Also, they could maybe use it to give this Series a kind of replay-thing, like:
If you searched for special persons, you woould get a diffrent prosecutor in the final case.
for example:
- Normal last case with the new prosecutor for this game 
- you face off against Franziska von Karma in the final case
(mia - I didn't get how to use her smilie ^^; ) - You face of against edgeworth in the final case.about the thing beeing GS5 beeing the last game of this series:
I've read the whole Thread
and there was the same news posted a lot earlier, but at the same time, it was sad, that this informations were just fakes made up by someone.
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Thanks everyone for the nice welcome ^^
well, my idea was about making a story, where we could see old characters from PW's Arc and get to know what happened to them in the past 8 jears, but not let them overshadow the new cast and possible new Characters for Apollo's run.
It would be like:
Invastigation phase "find Phönix" -> get some informations about a person Phönix knew -> find that person and talk to him/ her -> get Clues and informations -> found person says good bye -> Apollo and Trucy than find there new defendant who hasn't anything to do with the person you've found. - -> nomral case as alwys with apollo and Trucy finding some new friends or/and foes.
The "Find Phönix" invastiagtions could also maybe used to introduce a new Game mechanic (Like the thing with the fingerprints from PW1) and let the player get to used to it during this special invastigation part.)
Also, they could maybe use it to give this Series a kind of replay-thing, like:
If you searched for special persons, you woould get a diffrent prosecutor in the final case.
for example:
- Normal last case with the new prosecutor for this game
- you face off against Franziska von Karma in the final case
(mia - I didn't get how to use her smilie ^^; ) - You face of against edgeworth in the final case.
well, my idea was about making a story, where we could see old characters from PW's Arc and get to know what happened to them in the past 8 jears, but not let them overshadow the new cast and possible new Characters for Apollo's run.
It would be like:
Invastigation phase "find Phönix" -> get some informations about a person Phönix knew -> find that person and talk to him/ her -> get Clues and informations -> found person says good bye -> Apollo and Trucy than find there new defendant who hasn't anything to do with the person you've found. - -> nomral case as alwys with apollo and Trucy finding some new friends or/and foes.
The "Find Phönix" invastiagtions could also maybe used to introduce a new Game mechanic (Like the thing with the fingerprints from PW1) and let the player get to used to it during this special invastigation part.)
Also, they could maybe use it to give this Series a kind of replay-thing, like:
If you searched for special persons, you woould get a diffrent prosecutor in the final case.
for example:
- Normal last case with the new prosecutor for this game - you face off against Franziska von Karma in the final case (mia - I didn't get how to use her smilie ^^; ) - You face of against edgeworth in the final case.Oh so that's how it goes. I think this is a great idea now that I've realized it, longer gameplay doesn't bore me (well at least I don't, I dunno about the others, though). In fact, I find it more interesting
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about the thing beeing GS5 beeing the last game of this series:
I've read the whole Thread and there was the same news posted a lot earlier, but at the same time, it was sad, that this informations were just fakes made up by someone.
I've read the whole Thread
and there was the same news posted a lot earlier, but at the same time, it was sad, that this informations were just fakes made up by someone.I'm glad it ain't true, I really wanted more out of the Gyakuten Saiban series. Perhaps make AJ3/GS6 after the release, but I guess I'm getting way ahead.
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Hmmmm, well, for some reason i keep on thinking that GS-5 should have Maya and Pearl back. Like maybe Pearl was suspected of a crime and Maya needed help or maybe the other way around.... hmmmm. And i really REALLY want to see Mia's return, i mean like Maya channeled Mia again and i wish i could see what she would say to Hobo PW. Lol
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I'd really rather keep the whole Fey family out of it.
No offence to them but it'd just be one more step to edging Apollo out while everyone goes and focuses on Nick.
And AJ1 didn't do Apollo any favours either you know? He needs a bit of limelight.
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Maybe we'll see a return from Lana but not as a prosecutor but as a detective at most. Annnyway, I really do hope Phoenix plays a bigger role than he did in GS4. Okay so, introducing HoboHodo was a real crazy move and got some attention but that's resolved, If Capcom wants to draw something new then they need to focus on new systems and ways of investigating.
What im thinking of is a way to sneak a lawyer Phoenix and Apollo in the game. Actual courtroom proceedings depict more than one person on the defense, usually like 2 or 3 people. So perhaps some kind of tag team system? Not like Mia for Phoenix in trials, where she justs watches and waits for us to practically lose THEN interrupts but 2 great lawyers striving to get to the truth! Not sure how its gonna work but I'll think about that.
Seeing Phoenix work could also speed up Apollo's development as a lawyer too.
As far as new ways to investigate go I heard that the director, or somethin, of GK offered his help so its possible we'll some buffed versions of play from Gyakuten Kenji. Also, IF they plan to implement the jurist system I have no idea how that's going to work. They cant possibly be thinking that WE be allowed to choose the verdict right? xD
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This topic is 43 pages long, so chances are some variation of what I'm about to say has already been said. But I'd like to say it anyway:
Though I'm sure there's no way in hell this will happen, I would love if GS5 were a prequel to the Phoenix Wright trilogy. More specifically, I'd love it to be Mia Fey: Ace Attorney. It could take place after the events of 3-1 and follow her growing career as a defense attorney. She was lauded in the first Phoenix Wright game as being one of the best lawyers of the country, and I'm interested in seeing how she attained that title. Also:
Spoiler: possible 3-4, 3-5
It'll never happen, but it'd be cool if it did.More realistically though, even though I love Phoenix, I would REALLY prefer a sequel to Apollo Justice. Only because I want to learn more about Apollo. I felt like Apollo wasn't fully developed (character-wise) in the first game, IMHO. He kinda got shafted by Phoenix's story. I'd like to see a game about Apollo that's main focus is actually on Apollo.
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